Reggae Shark
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If Zeev gets past Utah at 6 and Seattle at 8 I'll be shocked and willing to offer a lot to NJ to swap picks. I think Zeev is going to be a star.
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LadyStanley
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One guy's dream picks
LadyStanley
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Pashelka's draft prediction
I'd love it, but I don't see Emery dropping that far.
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I mean it's possible but, if Grier is unable to jump up a few places from 14, I'd like to see him package both 2nds to get back into the 1st to grab this guy.
Tankathon updated their rankings and had us get Yakemchuk at 14, Masse at 33, and Solberg at 42. That would be a pretty solid get but I would've taken Emery or Badinka at 33 instead of Masse.
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Bizarre that their updated rankings have Solberg at 42 when he's probably gonna go 30 slots higher than that...
You think Solberg is gonna end up being picked before our 14th pick?
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He might have been rounding up... 25-30 slots higher. Big riser, could definitely make it a big 7. Combine rumors this week will be fun.
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If Helenius magically drops to 14, there is no way Grier passes up on him. Even if he's not an organization "fit", this team needs to be drafting best player available as there are still lots of holes to fill.
Worst case scenario you have an elite 3C or a good 2C and that forces Smith or Helenius to play with Celebrini. Or you could use Helenius as a trade chip to fill holes later with NHL ready players.
Many of the scouting orgs/mocks have this guy all over the top 10 and it would be a gift to get him at 14. This draft not having a real defined consensus top 5 is going to let a few gems fall to the mid and late 1st round.
Worst case scenario you have an elite 3C or a good 2C and that forces Smith or Helenius to play with Celebrini. Or you could use Helenius as a trade chip to fill holes later with NHL ready players.
Many of the scouting orgs/mocks have this guy all over the top 10 and it would be a gift to get him at 14. This draft not having a real defined consensus top 5 is going to let a few gems fall to the mid and late 1st round.
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I would say this draft has a pretty consensus Top 4 and a pretty consensus Top 10. Picks 11-13 almost anything could happen.
The two things I feel comfortable about predicting is that there is very little chance that a Top 6 defenseman falls to 14 and a pretty good chance that a good forward prospect is going to fall to 14. At that point, we'll see what Grier does, but my hope is that if we can't trade up to get a defenseman that we take the good forward at 14 and don't reach for the next best defenseman.
Seems wasteful, I could live with Catton but if you're going to take him it would be such a waste of Celebrini to pair him with a defensive liability instead of other players who are hard to play against. I don't like his implication that Emery is the only good defensive player needed to build a future defense.
The way everyones talking about Solberg the latest he goes now is mid 20's
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By the time of the draft, it may very well be that Emery and Solberg are not seen as quite such a big reach at 14. If Button thinks Emery is the same as Silayev and all his NTDP teammates say he's the hardest to go against, and his biggest knock was offense but he showed pretty well joining the rush and scoring a goal at junior worlds plus his dad is a pro football player meaning he has the tools to add hand eye skills... Or, Solberg is a late riser and now being comped to Mo Seider as underrated because he comes from a non traditional league, but just looked really good against men at worlds... I will personally be excited if the staff is confident enough to pick either. If they go with a forward, great, we'll be adding a good prospect either way.
Preemptive edit: yes, I know, the rankings say it would be a reach. But the rankings are likely behind/not representative of where NHL teams are ranking players going into and coming out of the combine. Rumor mill should be churning this week and it'll be very interesting to see what we're hearing.
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I don't see Helenius, a center, dropping too far to be honest. I'd love to snag him at #14, absolutely.
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Helenius would actually be a dream defensive/matchup focused 3C. Then with Celebrini as 1C and Eklund 2LW you have at least 1 responsible forward on each line.
Other options would be draft MBN who could be our Ryan Leonard throw on any line type.
Realistically we're probably just taking whoever "falls" to 14 and it could be anyone not named Levshunov, Silayev, Dickinson, Lindstrom or Iginla.
Other options would be draft MBN who could be our Ryan Leonard throw on any line type.
Realistically we're probably just taking whoever "falls" to 14 and it could be anyone not named Levshunov, Silayev, Dickinson, Lindstrom or Iginla.
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I mean ideally we'd be higher to have our own choice of who we want, but it's definitely still a good spot.
Juxtaposer
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You never know, I wouldn’t be terribly shocked to see him there at 14. Personally I do think he translates to center at the NHL level (the only guy in the top-15 other than Macklin I can say that about), but he’s 5’11”, not a burner, and did disappoint at international tournaments all year. Plus, rightly or wrongly, I think Finnish prospects have a bit of a stigma right now after some pretty high profile busts lately.
Frankly I don’t think he’s a great fit for the Sharks, as we have our centers set and need someone with size and speed, but he’s such good value at 14 I think you just have to take him anyway.
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I’m not super read into the thing, but is the “stigma” about recent crops of Finnish prospects just not meeting the mark offensively at the NHL level? Offensive projections consistently not materializing?
I feel like I’ve read that between the lines in some commentary online, but I couldn’t point to anything specific.
Juxtaposer
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Yup, at least from my perspective. A lot of the high-profile guys who scored a lot in Liiga have not been able to do so in the NHL. Particularly Puljujarvi and Kakko of late.
I've posed this hypothetical numerous times to mixed results.
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Celebrini HF thread has been quiet since we won the lottery
He is no longer good obviously.
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