Prospect Info: All-Purpose 2024 Draft Thread & Celebrini discussion (also the 14th pick and whatever else is draft related)

[Patty Ice]

Celebrini HF thread has been quiet since we won the lottery

Last week it was getting a lot of views from Canucks fans as they rosterbated him onto their team.

 

[67 others]

Last week it was getting a lot of views from Canucks fans as they rosterbated him onto their team.

Yeah, the "petterson to SJ for 1st overall" thread was kinda funny

 

[Bowie22]

Yeah, the "petterson to SJ for 1st overall" thread was kinda funny

Petterson is so good, Nucks fans want to drive him to the airport for some "magic beans"

 

[Patty Ice]

I don't want to turn this into a Peterson bash thread as I like the player. Yea, the proposal was ridiculous but the thing I find annoying is that you have people that claim players because they were born in a certain place.

 

[jMoneyBrah]

Petterson is so good, Nucks fans want to drive him to the airport for some "magic beans"

My favorite part was OP’s rationale for Vancouver making the trade was:
clear cap space for Boeser and Lindholm…
… and oh hey, would you look at that, we could also draft Aiden’s brother

I also appreciate the inevitable “you don’t like my proposal? Well f*** you and your shit team. I’ll just keep my players and you guys can just continue to suck ass FOREVER”

Me:
Woah! I was unaware that these conversations had influence on actual outcomes. Now that I understand that we are negotiating with the Canucks management on behalf of the Sharks organization I’ll have to think this over more seriously…

…

…

hahahaha, still no

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I don't want to turn this into a Peterson bash thread as I like the player. Yea, the proposal was ridiculous but the thing I find annoying is that you have people that claim players because they were born in a certain place.

Yeah, I'd have no problems taking Pettersson off their hands for plenty. It just wouldn't be Celebrini or Smith. Everyone does the hometown thing. Hell, we do that with Auston Matthews lol

 

[LadyStanley]

My THN draft preview mag arrived with MC on the cover

 

[Patty Ice]

Yeah, I'd have no problems taking Pettersson off their hands for plenty. It just wouldn't be Celebrini or Smith. Everyone does the hometown thing. Hell, we do that with Auston Matthews lol

You could make a case for some even did with Celebrini because his dad works for the Warriors and he was a Jr Shark.

 

[67 others]

Petterson is so good, Nucks fans want to drive him to the airport for some "magic beans"

I wanted to respond to the last post but it's locked.

"There is a 100% chance that Celebrini turns out to be better than Pettersson."

100% chance is like pluralizing the lone rangers. 100% isn't a chance it's a guarantee!

 

[matt trick]

You could make a case for some even did with Celebrini because his dad works for the Warriors and he was a Jr Shark.

Admitedly, this created some additional absurd hope for me. Surely, if we're ever going to get the first overall it's when it's a guy who was a JR. Shark. He's not a CA native, but for us this is about as close as it gets (Devin Cooley not withstanding)

 

[dmcccdmn]

Scott Wheeler just released the latest ranking that shows to be only 11-deep. Should we trade up?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5521848/2024/06/03/2024-nhl-draft-rankings-top-100-prospects/

 

[anthonyyy]

Seems wasteful, I could live with Catton but if you're going to take him it would be such a waste of Celebrini to pair him with a defensive liability instead of other players who are hard to play against. I don't like his implication that Emery is the only good defensive player needed to build a future defense.

Who the hell says Catton is a defensive liability? If you have the chance to pair a potential PPG player with Celebrini, you do it.

 

[Patty Ice]

Admitedly, this created some additional absurd hope for me. Surely, if we're ever going to get the first overall it's when it's a guy who was a JR. Shark. He's not a CA native, but for us this is about as close as it gets (Devin Cooley not withstanding)

I was certainly the same way. It was more that we were destined to Celebrini than entitled to him as was the essence I got from the main board thread. He even tried to justify why the Sharks would do it with a word salad of nonsense worthy of the principal/game judge from Billy Madison meme.

 

[Zarzh]

Who the hell says Catton is a defensive liability? If you have the chance to pair a potential PPG player with Celebrini, you do it.

Everyone who watches more than a highlights package? He has a lack of engagement, structure, and tools but goes for the highlight defensive play sometimes and that leads to people thinking he can defend.

He's probably not a very useful player in the NHL, especially with his inflated TOI and stats. You can take the risk that he scores more than expected or finds the next gear, but most of the time you'll be disappointed.

 

[Gecklund]

Everyone who watches more than a highlights package? He has a lack of engagement, structure, and tools but goes for the highlight defensive play sometimes and that leads to people thinking he can defend.

He's probably not a very useful player in the NHL, especially with his inflated TOI and stats. You can take the risk that he scores more than expected or finds the next gear, but most of the time you'll be disappointed.

Catton is not a defensive liability. He just doesn’t make those highlight reel defensive plays. He’s great at winning puck battles despite being smaller just by being in the right place at the right time.

Will he ever be Bergeron? No. But he’s fine defensively.

 

[Patty Ice]

Scott Wheeler just released the latest ranking that shows to be only 11-deep. Should we trade up?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5521848/2024/06/03/2024-nhl-draft-rankings-top-100-prospects/

If the draft fell the way Wheeler ranks them, I'd be over the moon. Coming out with Celebrini, MBN, Emery, and either Badinka or Elick (both ranked immediately after Howe, smallish LW we have our fair share of, at 42) is a haul and a half. Even Tomas Lavoie is a steal at 85.

 

[anthonyyy]

Catton is not a defensive liability. He just doesn’t make those highlight reel defensive plays. He’s great at winning puck battles despite being smaller just by being in the right place at the right time.

Will he ever be Bergeron? No. But he’s fine defensively.

Especially if he's playing wing, and "defensive liability" will be somewhat negated. Not sure what metric was used, but Wheeler even said he was one of the top PKers in the WHL

Everyone who watches more than a highlights package? He has a lack of engagement, structure, and tools but goes for the highlight defensive play sometimes and that leads to people thinking he can defend.

He's probably not a very useful player in the NHL, especially with his inflated TOI and stats. You can take the risk that he scores more than expected or finds the next gear, but most of the time you'll be disappointed.

Everyone? Find a single source that says that.

 

[Hodge]

No more drafting players under 6 foot.

 

[coooldude]

No more drafting players under 6 foot.

So no Helenius either, then. He's listed as 5'11".

 

[karltonian]

So I think this goal:


Reminds me a lot of this goal (1st):


Except MackCel didn't need a f***ing powerplay to do it. That other guy is a total scrub.

 

[Hodge]

So no Helenius either, then. He's listed as 5'11".

Eh, he's close enough and proven against men.

Catton looks like the type of prospect DWJr. is texting Ron Francis day and night about drafting at #8 (derogatory).

 

[coooldude]

Eh, he's close enough and proven against men.

Catton looks like the type of prospect DWJr. is texting Ron Francis day and night about drafting at #8 (derogatory).

I'm on the same page about Catton, personally. I just don't think hard and fast rules are very helpful.

 

[Hodge]

I'm on the same page about Catton, personally. I just don't think hard and fast rules are very helpful.

How about "no more drafting players under 6 foot out of junior hockey"?

 

[Lebanezer]

How about "no more drafting players under 6 foot out of junior hockey"?

So had the Sharks won the lottery last year you would have been against drafting Connor Bedard?

 

[Juxtaposer]

How about "no more drafting players under 6 foot out of junior hockey"?

So no Canadians or Americans under 6’0”? It’s not Catton’s fault he doesn’t have another option than juniors. Celebrini is the first guy in a long time to play NCAA at age 17, he’s the exception, not the rule.