In a salary cap world, a low/no risk player who can be very cheap and play a 2/3 line role can be more valuable than a 1st liner making 8 mil.
Rumor: All Encompassing Jimmy Vesey Thread. All Rumors/News goes here. Part V
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In a salary cap world, a low/no risk player who can be very cheap and play a 2/3 line role can be more valuable than a 1st liner making 8 mil.
I just want to see the chain reaction once he sign to a team. I feel like a lot of team are waiting for this signing to make a move.
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In reality, where you live is less about the arena and more about the practice facility. NYR is pretty accessible. NYI less so. The Devils practice rink is part of the Prudential Center, so it depends on how appealing you find it going to Newark basically every day.
Vesey is too old for the OHL, so projecting his OHL point totals as a 22-year-old is purely hypothetical and not very meaningful. Division I is a stronger league than the CHL in terms of level of competition, but the players are older, so comparing the two directly is impossible.
He'll almost certainly be a better player than Blandisi. He should be a reliable 40-50-point guy with good possession stats in the NHL, IMO, if all goes well. Not a flashy offensive talent or a superstar, but a player every team likes to have on the roster. (Of course, your opinion of this comparison depends on your opinion of Blandisi's potential.)
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You did answer your own question: it's an asset for free that you didn't have to draft and didn't need to develop.
Also, he wasn't expected to be this good. Otherwise, he would have been drafted higher and might have been signed earlier.
It's kind of a one-off. The one that slipped between the cracks.
Don't understand your point. My speculation is that their is no one in the media (using that term loosely) could know how 7 interviews on a 16 hour business period is going. Yet their are "hundreds" of people referencing sources on how it is going, and ranking ins and outs.
I am watching like everyone (go Sabres) but have no respect for opinions referencing unnamed "sources"
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all this specualation is crazy
in history we have seen many cases of guys wanting to play close to home for family reasons
weve seen cases of guys joining a team to be with friends
weve seen guys wanting to avoid the spotlight... and weve seen other guys seeking the spotlight
if we try to make a list of guys we know made decesions based on these factors we would have a few hundred names on the list before we were done
and then we would have 1000s and 1000s of names that never let any of these factors play much of a role in where they ended up
we can all try to appear smart and try to get into this kid's head but theres a fairly decent chance the kid isn't even going to be the one to make the final call. a lot of players have been led by their agents and their other handlers over the years too. I mean even the great bobby orr got tricked into going to Chicago
money wont be the final deciding factor in this decision either because multiple teams will make the same money offer
ultimately Vesey will make a decision... a team will end up with a pretty decent player. they will pay a pretty decent price for him considering hes unproven. the player may ultimately be worth more than the cost of the contract... if so, then bonus. or he may turn into the next Justin Schultz in which case it might come back to bite in the butt to whoever wins this war
I don't blame anyone for hoping for the best... I don't blame anyone for hoping their team gets this 'free' player, but all this 'insider' stuff... or pretending that we know which way this is leaning... its very fake. I don't know why we give it so much play here.
in history we have seen many cases of guys wanting to play close to home for family reasons
weve seen cases of guys joining a team to be with friends
weve seen guys wanting to avoid the spotlight... and weve seen other guys seeking the spotlight
if we try to make a list of guys we know made decesions based on these factors we would have a few hundred names on the list before we were done
and then we would have 1000s and 1000s of names that never let any of these factors play much of a role in where they ended up
we can all try to appear smart and try to get into this kid's head but theres a fairly decent chance the kid isn't even going to be the one to make the final call. a lot of players have been led by their agents and their other handlers over the years too. I mean even the great bobby orr got tricked into going to Chicago
money wont be the final deciding factor in this decision either because multiple teams will make the same money offer
ultimately Vesey will make a decision... a team will end up with a pretty decent player. they will pay a pretty decent price for him considering hes unproven. the player may ultimately be worth more than the cost of the contract... if so, then bonus. or he may turn into the next Justin Schultz in which case it might come back to bite in the butt to whoever wins this war
I don't blame anyone for hoping for the best... I don't blame anyone for hoping their team gets this 'free' player, but all this 'insider' stuff... or pretending that we know which way this is leaning... its very fake. I don't know why we give it so much play here.
I don't follow hockey but the Bruins didn't make the playoffs and the isles are coming off back to back 100 point seasons with s 25 year old superstar captain. There's nothing similar about the isles and Boston, and the team closer to average is the Bruins, who are below average. Fact. Hopefully your GM doesn't take another swig and trade away one of your last pieces of relevancy. Ex: Bergeron.
Time to the Arena won't factor in, but to the practice facility could. If he wants to live in NYC I pretty much don't see how the Isles can land him. They practice out in Syosset. If I'm a 23 year old living in Manhattan, there's no way I'm going to want to make that commute. Unless he wants to live in Brooklyn or some crummy neighborhood on the East side, his commute to Westchester or NJ will be much better. My guess though is he'd want to be in the Village, Meatpacking, SoHo, TriBeCa or Chelsea, all of which are a solid 30 minutes closer to the Rangers and Devils training facilities than the Isles.
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Irishguy42
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As far as we know, those are the 8 teams he has had talks with.
Buffalo from before he became a FA, and the seven others from the past two days.
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After some thought I just can't see him coming to Toronto. He has to beat out, Marner, Nylander, JVR and Komarov for top 6 time not too mention he would prob be below guys like Sosh, Hyman and Brown on the depth chart
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He IS overrated. I mean if he hits his peak he might be a 2nd line W, more likely a very good third line W. That doesnt mean I dont want him, I'll be quite pleased if the Leafs sign him. But the commotion he has caused this summer is ridiculous.
Agreed. Your Toronto depth chart and history are too much to overcome for a free agent. My "sources" said he thought Aston Kutcher was coming to the meeting
Hey, we're just watching the NHL version of The Bachelorette here. Letting our imaginations wander. It's a pleasant daydream, so don't go letting reality get in the way, okay!
Of course, none of us have a clue what the star of the show is really thinking, and chances are he's had such a long day that he doesn't know either.
However, that doesn't hamper our speculation or dim our imaginations.
Don't forget to call us for dinner when the show is over.
Yeah, it sucks that he didn't want to go outside of his home state. But then again there's downsides to that he'll have to deal with.
As for putting all these teams through it. I'm sure the agent knew that he'd have to go this route if he wanted one of the teams he'd like to play for offer the best deal possible, the Max ELC with Max performance bonuses. If he just came out with his desires from the start. Bruins owner would have surely tried to lowball him a bit.
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Joe McDonald @ESPNJoeyMac 2m2 minutes ago
Vesey has met with all seven teams on his list -- NYR, NJD, NYI, BOS, CHI, PITT, BUF -- and his camp will start discussing options Thursday.
wheres toronto?
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Joe McDonald @ESPNJoeyMac 1m1 minute ago
Yes, Vesey also met with the Maple Leafs.
Vesey has met with all seven teams on his list -- NYR, NJD, NYI, BOS, CHI, PITT, BUF -- and his camp will start discussing options Thursday.
wheres toronto?
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Joe McDonald @ESPNJoeyMac 1m1 minute ago
Yes, Vesey also met with the Maple Leafs.
His Harvard buddies work in retail on Madison Ave? Uptown has good shopping?
I assume you are not a NYC tour guide?
I know where MSG is. I just mentioned Madison ave because the poster said friends on Wall st or Madison ave
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