Rumor: All Encompassing Jimmy Vesey Thread. All Rumors/News goes here. Part V

[93gilmour93]

Do you need it to not be a good source? Not every person is desperately seeking attention!

Actually everyone who posts on twitter is seeking attention.

 

[mk21]

If you have free tickets because your friend's friend plays left wing, would you rather watch a game at MSG, Barclay or NJ -- or would it make no difference to you at all?

Genuine question. I don't have an answer of my own.

I can't answer that impartially because I'm an Isles fan.

 

[dmband]

It doesn't take much to fire off a text.

And how is that helpful to the process?

 

[Gee Wally]

If you have free tickets because your friend's friend plays left wing, would you rather watch a game at MSG, Barclay or NJ -- or would it make no difference to you at all?

Genuine question. I don't have an answer of my own.

If its Boston friends and family its MSG./ Penn Station.
The Acela from Boston goes 145 mph along Long Island sound and gets there in just about 3 hours.

 

[Fonzerelli]

It doesn't take much to fire off a text.

And how is that helpful to the process?

What does it have to do with being helpful to the process? It's information and those in the information business are interested in that type of thing. And they are interested in that sort of thing because people crave that sort of information and go on sites like twitter and this one to see that type of thing. The people giving the information could have their own agenda, or maybe they are just returning a favour to a reporter or maybe they just cant keep a secret. What does it matter? It doesn't take a lot of effort and people are interested

 

[Irishguy42]

And how is that helpful to the process?

How do you think big shot guys like Friedman and McKenzie sometimes do it?

Sometimes, all they get is just a text. It's a fast and easy way to communicate.

 

[Eggtimer]

How does the league Vesey played in compare to the the OHL and Q ? I know people are saying Vesey is a potential 20-25 g 25-30 a player and put up good numbers last year but as a 22/33 year old .
For example Blandisi tore up juniors his last year but was an overage player.Same as Boucher , he broke Stamkos' ' record for single season goals , but did so as an overage player. Both Boucher and blandisi are still developing but even though they dominated their leagues as overage players , are still 3rd line calibre players right now .
I guess what I'm trying to ask is if Vesey played in the CHL last year , what kind of numbers would you say he would have put up ? Is Vesey projected or more skilled than a Boucher or Blandisi? I'm just trying to get a feeling for how good he is.
However Vesey I guess is way bigger and plays C so has more value than those 2 . Just skill wise is he projected to be better?

 

[Beacon]

If its Boston friends and family its MSG./ Penn Station.
The Acela from Boston goes 145 mph along Long Island sound and gets there in just about 3 hours.

It's 180 miles from the Rangers training facility to Boston, which is under 3 hours if you follow the 65 mph speed limit and more like 2.5 hours for me because there's almost never any traiffic there until you enter Boston, so you can easily drive 80 mph and so long as you're not speeding over 15 miles above the limit, you don't get tickets, so 80 mph in a 65 mph zone is safe.

 

[Der Jaeger]

No, Sweden "owned" Finland, though Russia also "owned" Finland and much more recently (up to 99 years ago), so that would make Teemu Selanne a Russian?

Denmark actually "owned" Sweden, not the reverse. There was a union of Denmark, Sweden and Norway, with Denmark being the dominant senior partner. Then Sweden split off and then there were a whole bunch of wars over who controls the city of Malmo. If you go to Denmark, you'll find that the Danes still complain that the Swedes stole it.

Completely aware. I am a historian and lived in Germany for five years.

Of all the replies to your nonsense, this post is what you decide to respond to?

 

[dmband]

How do you think big shot guys like Friedman and McKenzie sometimes do it?

Sometimes, all they get is just a text. It's a fast and easy way to communicate.

Well last I checked we have nothing from them.

So, for example, vesey, family or agents authorized a text to a blogger saying Pittsburgh is out. That happens before they tell him Rutherford to his face or give him time to announce and spin it to their fan base.

Not good for business

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Actually everyone who posts on twitter is seeking attention.

Yeah figured that went without saying. Guess not.

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

Has it been confirmed who the two teams are yet?

 

[Irishguy42]

Well last I checked we have nothing from them.

So, for example, vesey, family or agents authorized a text to a blogger saying Pittsburgh is out. That happens before they tell him Rutherford to his face or give him time to announce and spin it to their fan base.

Not good for business

I was just using them as an example for the "insiders use texting for sources" thing.

Bob is probably not 100% into doing stuff right now because he's on vacation. Though he has done some stuff here and there this summer.

Friedman has sometimes hinted at stuff this summer, but he's been busy with the Olympics.

As for that not being good for business....well...that's pretty much the business these days with the technology we have.

 

[Irishguy42]

Has it been confirmed who the two teams are yet?

I've been searching and haven't seen any team aside from Detroit being 100% confirmed as out on Vesey.

 

[satbank]

Maybe someone can answer this, prior to Aug. 16 teams can make appointment to meet with Vesey but they just can't actually talk to him. This doesn't break any rule?

 

[old kummelweck]

Man... this is one for the history books.

 

[Irishguy42]

Link?

I think it was a joke to get a reaction out of us

Maybe someone can answer this, prior to Aug. 16 teams can make appointment to meet with Vesey but they just can't actually talk to him. This doesn't break any rule?

Pretty sure scheduling a meeting "regarding a presentation to Vesey signing an ELC with your team" constitutes as tampering. It's not like they're all:

"Hey, you want to have a meeting on Wednesday at 1pm?"

"Sure, what's it about?"

"Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...you'll find out when you get there. Just bring your agent."

 

[Gee Wally]

I think it was a joke to get a reaction out of us



Pretty sure scheduling a meeting "regarding a presentation to Vesey signing an ELC with your team" constitutes as tampering. It's not like they're all:

"Hey, you want to have a meeting on Wednesday at 1pm?"

"Sure, what's it about?"

"Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...you'll find out when you get there. Just bring your agent."

Oh, it will get a reaction.
Probably not the one expected though.

 

[iamitter]

I lived in both NYC & T.O. FYI
Barclays is closer to Wall Street than MSG. Newark is also a quick train ride from lower Manhattan. Now Madison ave is a different story.

Madison Sq Garden is nowhere near Madison Avenue. It's right over Penn Station.

If you really want to get down in the details, all the biggest banks on Wall St are 15 minutes by taxi or subway from MSG. Barclays is 25 by taxi or subway. Prudential Center is ~30 by taxi and ~40 by PATH train.

Newark is obviously a bit farther, but the other two? It's frankly negligible. As long as you work near some sort of subway in a moderately central part of NY, both Barclays and MSG are within very reasonable commuting times. I doubt that'll be the factor here.

 

[old kummelweck]

This is a serious questions. Why is it that so many teams are killing themselves to sign this kid? There has to be some weird competitive GM thing going on here, right? I know in the big picture, it's an asset for free that you didn't have to draft and didn't need to develop, but teams were sending front-office people to watch his beer league games in Foxborough to basically 'send a message'. That's just weird.

 

[Tawnos]

And after 7 presentations or so back to back in two days, the "sources" have time to report to the bloggers.

It's not about time, it's about inclination.

 

[Irishguy42]

Madison Sq Garden is nowhere near Madison Avenue. It's right over Penn Station.

If you really want to get down in the details, all the biggest banks on Wall St are 15 minutes by taxi or subway from MSG. Barclays is 25 by taxi or subway. Prudential Center is ~30 by taxi and ~40 by PATH train.

Newark is obviously a bit farther, but the other two? It's frankly negligible. As long as you work near some sort of subway in a moderately central part of NY, both Barclays and MSG are within very reasonable commuting times. I doubt that'll be the factor here.

Gotta agree. The commute difference between Newark/Brooklyn/Manhattan are largely controlled by the daily traffic on whatever choice of transportation you take. Not by the actual miles.

Once you learn to adapt to the NYC metro transportation, it doesn't matter where you live/need to get to.

 

[Tawnos]

This is a serious questions. Why is it that so many teams are killing themselves to sign this kid? There has to be some weird competitive GM thing going on here, right? I know in the big picture, it's an asset for free that you didn't have to draft and didn't need to develop, but teams were sending front-office people to watch his beer league games in Foxborough to basically 'send a message'. That's just weird.

Who's killing themselves? 7 teams made presentations. Ooooh such crazy stunts!

 

[Ciao]

If its Boston friends and family its MSG./ Penn Station.
The Acela from Boston goes 145 mph along Long Island sound and gets there in just about 3 hours.

I'd have to think that Boston would be a prime destination for him too.

BTW, isn't it nice to try to forget about the fortunes of the various NHL franchises and of anyone or anything but Vesey himself -- who wouldn't want to be Jimmy Vesey tonight?

Here's a 23? y.o. man with good health, a good family, a newly printed Harvard degree, a pro-hockey career ahead of him, multiple multi-million-dollar contract offers and his choice of top-tier pro teams to play for. Who could do anything but be happy for Jimmy Vesey today? His good fortune at this particular moment is almost unique and seemingly well deserved. Happily, it comes to a talented young man who stuck with his studies and actually graduated, and who from every report seems to be a very nice young man.

His hometown could be a wonderful landing place for him too.

Would that our own sons and daughters will have their own extraordinary good fortune as well, each in his or her own way.

 

[EichHart]

Can't blame the kid for wanting to play at home, I would want the same thing. Hopefully this is all finished by Friday so we can move on to more important topics.