Its funny how bi-polar everyone is. I just want to say, for the record, I never switched sides on Torts being fired. Even after game 7 against Washington(who was horribly overrated), Torts should not be coaching this team.
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If being swept means Torts is gone, then please just do the inevitable on thursday. When you lose a series because you were outcoached, there is only one option, and that is to fire the coach. The powerplauy is a disgrace and the coach is responsible for that. The only time it looked good all year was when Clowe and Moore played in a game WITHOUT any coaching from Torts. Weird coincidence...
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Imagine this post game interview:
Reporter: Hey Carl, what do you think has been the problem for your team this round?
Carl Hagelin: Our coach stinks in the playoffs. I don't know what it is... I'd like for him to not stink in the playoffs... but whenever we get here he just stinks...
I'd buy a hundred Hagelin jerseys immediately.
Reporter: Hey Carl, what do you think has been the problem for your team this round?
Carl Hagelin: Our coach stinks in the playoffs. I don't know what it is... I'd like for him to not stink in the playoffs... but whenever we get here he just stinks...
I'd buy a hundred Hagelin jerseys immediately.
BBKers
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Where are the Torts defenders? I'd love to know. Because he ****ing sucks. He is a horrible, horrible coach in this era of hockey. The game has passed him by. He is a stubborn *******. Good coaches adapt. He had never adapted. The personnel changed and he couldn't handle that. The PP has been bad but it goes back to his collapsing defense strategy when he does not have players that block shots. No transition game. Both goals tonight stemmed from point shots. Open point shots. No winger is ever in the same stratosphere of the point men who have so much time to take open shots. Do you see our defensemen get those open looks during offensive zone time? Nope. Because Julien is a better coach.
BBKers
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But he brings JAM!!!
And is kind to dogs
And really tries hard to fix the PP and never to throw any of his guys under the bus
Class act
C'mon...
I just want a coach that implements a puck possession system. At least when they suck it'll be entertaining.
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An offensive minded coach would be great. Like most have said, It would be entertaining even if we would be losing. This 6 goalie system is horrible.
I wanted Torts gone a long time ago. Hopefully game 4 (if we lose) is his last game as the coach along with that power play specialist Mike Sullivan.
I wanted Torts gone a long time ago. Hopefully game 4 (if we lose) is his last game as the coach along with that power play specialist Mike Sullivan.
Excuses. Give it a rest. I'm sick of the BS from you and a few others. 23 players on a playoff roster are all inept. 23 players vs. 1 man. Wake up. Nash is not a puck possession player? Brassard? Zucc? Callahan? Stepan? They are, they just play in the worst system in the NHL. Its disgusting reading the excuses made for this joke of a coach.
you cant possess the puck when you're too busy collapsing in zone trying to block shots and consequentially having no breakout.
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I know I'm a Torts hater but it's just not working. Lundqvist can't score goals, he's carried 18 guys on his back all year and it's not going to last forever. If Torts is back next year they have to try something different. Every team is playing different then us. Even Boston who supposedly has the same system as us has set plays and has a fluid breakout. We don't have any of that, something has to change.
zaYG
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Bruins fan here, watching my team exploit your absolute joke of a system has been great for me, but I'm sure bad for you. You guys have some serious talent. I honestly think you might have the greatest amount of high end talent in the league...or at least up there with Boston/Pittsburg/Chicago.
The thing is, I just don't see how you guys can even make the playoffs with Torts. How does this man even have a job? I wish you guys luck in finding a replacement for him eventually.
But we don't know if this team is capable of it because of the dump and chase. The forwards also shoot the puck right away when they do carry it into the zone. They don't wait for any one to go to the net. The philosophy has to change but I don't see him willing to do it.
But, but, but according the blindly loyal torts lovers, we have ZERO talent. Our personnel sucks and we should show Torts empathy for having a piss poor PP for his entire tenure here.
I haven't wanted Tortorella here all season. I've never changed my mind either. I still advocate him being laid off.
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We have the personnel. We need a coach that can bring out that side of them. Bolded are those that would thrive in that system. I think the lines should be changed but I'm just going with these for now.
Zuccarello-Brassard-Nash
Callahan-Stepan-Hagelin
Dorsett-Boyle-Pyatt
Asham-Richards-Kreider (He all depends on his linemates)
Clowe-Lindberg-Fasth (From the tape i've seen)
-Clowe played a HEAVY puck possession system in SJ. Their D are always getting involved.
-Watched Lindberg in the gold medal game the other night. The kid doesn't take any shortcuts around the D side of the play. Very very good, and patient with the puck to boot. Not afraid to make plays. Reminds me alot of Stepan, except a much more effective and fluid skater. A little less bulk.
-Brassard and Zuccarello already play a very creative puck possession game with themselves in the offensive zone. Why do you think they have created so much? I want to have them play this way in the neutral zone and breaking out too to create odd man rushes.
-Richards is done. Don't really think he will fit in anywhere, but when he was at his best he was holding onto the pucks and making plays.
-Dorsett is a very heady grinder. Don't know about Boyle and Pyatt.
-Hags down low does very well creating time and space. He could do it everywhere if we didn't have a system that was "NORTH NORTH NORTH"
Girardi-*McDonagh
Stralman-Staal (Staal is a great shutdown D no matter what system he plays in)
Moore-Del Zotto
*You think McDonagh is good now? Wait till he gets a coach that lets him and teaches him how to use all his talents and take some risks.
-Del Zotto I am a little on the fence with. But he more than serviceable as a 3rd pairing D, even if he doesn't adjust to the system accordingly.
I just don't understand how all of you can make such drastic criticisms about this guy and his system that not only almost brought us to the cup last year, had it not been for our terrible fourth line, when he doesn't have Staal, Prust, Duby, Arty, Fedo, Clowe, and basically 50% of the defensive team that allows his style to win games....
I really don't understand how everyone is so pathetic in blaming Torts right now, given how drastically different our team is, and how this year, aside from the differences, we were still out Clowe and Staal.
I really don't understand how everyone is so pathetic in blaming Torts right now, given how drastically different our team is, and how this year, aside from the differences, we were still out Clowe and Staal.
Because we have the potential to be a GREAT team. We are nothing close to that right now and are wasting Lundqvists years.
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