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If I was Lundqvist, I'd go to management in private and ask for the coach to go. Otherwise, I'm not re-signing here.
All Encompassing Coaching and Glen Cigar Thread Part V
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Whiplash27
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Another game where a point shot leads to a goal against. For a team that's known for blocking shots, they sure let a lot of point shots through. We have a system that the team collapses down low which leaves point men open on the other team. Shots come from the point and with all of the traffic in front, Lundqvist is either screened or the puck is deflected into the net. Over and over again.
JaeTM
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Alright, but then go blame Sather and not Torts, because it's not ****ing his fault he got stuck with Nash who didn't do ****, and lost everyone else who made his system work.
You can blame whoever you want all you want. Is that going to make anything better? No. Is changing the coach going to make things better? Yes.
At this point, you're probably right. Only because the boys need a change of scenery. Is this as direct a result of Torts being a bad coach like you seem to believe? Definitely not.
ImIdaho
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Torts also has had input in who plays, who goes, and who signs here. Torts is not without blame.
Also, why he won't get another coach to help the PP, he's also to blame. His little circle of friends is biting us on the ass.
tjs252
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After tonight's top-to-bottom showing, I'm not willing to call this all Torts' fault. The players' professional pride should lead to a better showing than we saw tonight, results be damned, play like it matters.
So I guess my point is, a lot of soul searching needs to go on, and not just with the coaching staff.
So I guess my point is, a lot of soul searching needs to go on, and not just with the coaching staff.
Give us the best coach in the league...I don't think enough of our players have the killer instinct.
Exactly ... That shows though, it's not the coach... Team just isn't what it was last year, bottom line. And as far as the problems we had last year? We still are getting beat by superior 4th lines. Seems to be our achilles heal. We can handle team's top couple lines well. Those fourth lines though....
ImIdaho
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For starters, you don't see this team being pinned and falling back in the defensive zone like you are currently seeing with Torts.
How ignorant are you? Sather went out and got players that Torts wanted. He wanted Nash. He played Pyatt more this year than a guy like Kreider because he played a grind it out game down low. It was obvious he did not see eye to eye with Gaborik and he was shipped out. Don't blame Sather. sather's staff drafted Kreider. An offensive player. Torts has ruined him by trying to change his game so that it fits his system.
I don't want to hear about last year. He had one great year out of 4. As a coach you are not always going to have the perfect personnel that fit you to a T. Great coaches ADAPT. He never adapted. He is stubborn. This is the problem.
17futurecap
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If he does get fired who are the expected candidates for open head coaching jobs in the NHL besides Ruff? Paul Maurice? Any AHL/assistant coaches in the NHL look ready to make the leap?
I'm not smart enough to draw a correlation between coach and team effort. Some people said they saw good effort from the Rangers tonight. I just am dumbdounded by such a statement, as I saw a horrendous display which the Bruins just managed as they saw fit.
Is the defensive style implemented by Tortorella the problem? I would have to say that in many cases, it is.
I don't sit around saying that the Rangers have more talent, but I DO SAY that they play like crap so often.
I think everyone needs to get their head out of their ass and stop pretending this team has a hand in making it to the ECF with the way they're playing.
I know you all are crying right now, but let's be honest, did we not see this coming?
Give me back last years team.
I know you all are crying right now, but let's be honest, did we not see this coming?
Give me back last years team.
You'll find about 15 posters at best that believed this team would advance even to the 2nd round. Expectations were pretty damn low
Hold on, let's **** up our whole team and add Nash, even though it was our 4th line that stopped us from making it to the cup...I just don't get the logic.
Whiplash27
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Was last year's team that much better? The east was so weak last year and yet the Rangers hardly beat the 8th and 7th seed teams and then lost to the 6th seed.
Either last year's team was great and losing players like Prust and Fedotenko really meant that much or the team just overachieved and really wasn't as good as they seemed.
Either last year's team was great and losing players like Prust and Fedotenko really meant that much or the team just overachieved and really wasn't as good as they seemed.
Haha then why are you here complaining now? Don't be so in shock about it now that's it's actually happened.
lolwut
I'd hardly say I'm complaining. I'm pretty glad they're in the 2nd round. I thought they were gonna get booted in the 1st.
Expectations=exceeded
Yea, last years team was that much better. Hank played better. Girardi played much better. We had Staal (who actually scored 3 ****ing goals in the playoffs aside from being our most agressive defenseman.) Then we didn't have Prust, Duby, Fedo, and Arty's forecheck, which can't be understanded at all with how our system works and how we generate offense. To top it off, we didn't have someone like Prust picking fighting and giving us momentum when we needed it...Dorsett picking a fight when we were down 5-2 in game 2. Great timing man....Team is just trash compared to last year, no meat.
You join this board this month. What do you know about being in shock? No one is in shock here. Torts system's flaws have been brought to light for the last 2-3 months.
This is 2013. Rosters change every offseason in any sport due to free agency. You don't get to keep the same team every year. Prust was paid too much. What don't you understand. Great coaches adjust. Tortorella did not. And even last year they struggled to beat the 8 and 7 seeds.
No Rick Nash hasn't been a consistent puck possession player his entire career. He didn't constantly outshoot opponents while on the ice, which can explain why the Jackets were so futile in believing that he was a franchise player. The modern day, Canadian version of Alex Kovalev.
Brassard like Nash has been a terrible puck possession player with the Jackets and another reason why they were so futile was that they constantly matched him up against other lines and he kept getting outshot while on ice.
Zuccarello is an excellent puck possession player.
Callahan was a good puck possession player in 10-11 and then fell off a cliff.
Stepan until this year didn't have good possession numbers.
I see a whole lot of mediocrity in the roster. Derick Brassard wouldn't make Bruins top 9 most likely, yet he is the Rangers 2nd C.
Funny thing is if Staal and Clowe were playing, and Nash wasn't playing like a ****ing *****, you'd all be locked up.
Haters gonna hate.
Haters gonna hate.
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