GDT: All Encompassing 4 Nations Discussion.

[AjaxManifesto]

Offsides?

Nope

Boo yourselves, Canada

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

I actually read that they're going to be discussing going back to home teams in white, so don't get your hopes up.

Yea, I saw that, I don't think they'll ever ditch the one white jersey requirement, but it'd be great

 

[Xerloris]

was that not offside? it certainly looked like it

 

[Spektre]

Ohhhhh say can you see….

 

[TheDizee]

Lose a 1 goal game because of a pure swiss cheese softy.

Damn the Blues defense shit the bed again.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

USA! USA! USA!

I'm sure all of Canada is going to blame the goaltender even though their best players were ghosts and they couldn't manage to score more than one goal.

I hope they start Adin Hill against Finland and he gives up 6.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

What could be wrong with Matt?

I thought maybe back or rib injury?

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

3 of the top 5 point scorers in the league this season, and only 1 goal to show for it.

 

[Mike Liut]

Binner only allows 2 goals, but he’s taking the blame.

 

[Robb_K]

USA! USA! USA!

I'm sure all of Canada is going to blame the goaltender even though their best players were ghosts and they couldn't manage to score more than one goal.

I hope they start Adin Hill against Finland and he gives up 6.

I'm not going to put all the blame on Binnington. He had one bad goal, on which he was looking for the shot to come up way higher, but the shooter fanned on the shot, topped it, and it skidded on the ice, going lower and slower, and went through the gap after he shifted to make the save higher, and a little more to his right. The main reason why Team Canada lost was USA's tight checking, smothering defence, which gave Canada very few chances to do ANYTHING in USA's Zone.

 

[BlueDream]

Canada’s offense just doesn’t look good. They have no cohesion or strategy in the offensive zone. MacKinnon, Marchand, and many others aren’t doing nearly enough. Seems like they have too many ‘grinders’ (Cirelli, Bennett, Jarvis, Hagel, etc) and not enough skill. A guy like Scheifele should be on this team.

People can say whatever they want about Binnington but nobody is shutting out the USA team. Expecting to win by scoring only 1 goal is hilarious.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

I'm not going to put all the blame on Binnington. He had one bad goal, on which he was looking for the shot to come up way higher, but the shooter fanned on the shot, topped it, and it skidded on the ice, going lower and slower, and went through the gap after he shifted to make the save higher, and a little more to his right. The main reason why Team Canada lost was USA's tight checking, smothering defence, which gave Canada very few chances to do ANYTHING in USA's Zone.

What do you think, Robb? Adin Hill in game three to change things up?

 

[Robb_K]

What do you think, Robb? Adin Hill in game three to change things up?

I don't trust Hill to come up big in important games, or Montambeault, either. I'm not sure I'd take Binnington out. Where are all the good Canadian goaltenders??? Did we give up developing them because The Finns were dominating at that position? When I was a kid we had so very many great goaltenders, Hall, Plante, Sawchuck, Bower, Worsley....

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

I don't trust Hill to come up big in important games. I'm not sure I'd take Binnington out.

That is my thinking as well.

 

[Mike Liut]

Are we learning anything about what type of hockey wins more? Speed / skill vs toughness / grit? Tight team D?

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

Are we learning anything about what type of hockey wins more? Speed / skill vs toughness / grit? Tight team D?

The team that made more mistakes lost the game. Simple as that

 

[StlBigFly]

I really liked Brayden Point’s game. And Parayko.

I don’t blame them for doing it due to short tournament, but the nonstop hero puck from McDavid and MacKinnon loses games when the high risk plays don’t convert or draw penalties. There’s no building puck possession. The defense gets an easy way out by just playing the body. The defense isn’t forced to turn around, so the opposition’s breakouts can be really fast and easy when the yolo play unravels.

Canada either needs to have its forwards play much closer to each other to give themselves support as they attack or they need to go more Soviet and add much more patience to their existing possession game, or they keep doing what they’re doing and the entire game will be decided by whether they can convert enough extremely high risk plays.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

USA

#1 GI

 

[Xerloris]

Lose a 1 goal game because of a pure swiss cheese softy.

Damn the Blues defense shit the bed again.

If team Canada can't score 2 f***ing goals you have worse problems than your goalie

 

[Majorityof1]

The fighting that happens as a reaction to something that happened in the game is one of my favorite things in all of sports. Two guys dropping the gloves to manufacture excitement is plastic and phony. This game didn’t need it to be a great rivalry game anymore than the Sweden-Finland game did. Was that not a great rivalry game?

Agreed. B. Tkachuk said after the game that it happened "organically" followed immediately by saying he "Coordinated with 'Benny'" to fight after they found out the starting line ups. You don't have to coordinate an organic fight and you sure as hell don't call the guy you're fighting by his nickname. I have never in my life heard a less organic description.

Granted I hate all hockey fights. I am more forgiving of reactionary ones. But all the fighting sucks. Fighting in full pads sucks. Fighting on ice skates where you can't use your lower body well sucks. And 99% of hockey players have no idea what they are doing in a fight. I could go to any professional MMA dojo in the country right now, pick a guy at random and he'd kick the ever-living piss out of Brady Tkachuk.

Are we learning anything about what type of hockey wins more? Speed / skill vs toughness / grit? Tight team D?

No. This is an All-star game where the teams have insanc talent but the players barely have played or practiced together. Why would we take more lessons from that than the 50+ regular season games where the teams train, practice and strategize all season. What are they going to take away "The key to winning is to start Hellebuyck". Only one team in the league can implement that lesson.

 

[TheDizee]

Binner only allows 2 goals, but he’s taking the blame.

As he should. That first goal was a total joke.

The homerism for him needs to stop. That was a terrible goal to give up.

 

[TheDizee]

Canada will clinch a berth in the final with a regulation win against Finland on Monday (1 p.m. ET; MAX, truTV, TNT, SN, TVAS). Finland will do the same if it defeats Canada in regulation.

So Sweden is screwed unless those teams go to OT? That USA/SWE could literally mean NOTHING at all if one of those other teams win clean. Yikes. I guess this is pretty much all rigged for a Canadian victory then for big ratings in the rematch.

The tourny is better than I thought it would be but they need more teams and games. Either way, it is without a doubt better than any boring all star game that nobody would watch.

 

[Xerloris]

As he should. That first goal was a total joke.

The homerism for him needs to stop. That was a terrible goal to give up.

Sure we may be homers but at least most of us can watch a game and say something that doesn't sound like a drunk guy in the nosebleeds that's never played the game before.

 

[TheOrganist]

Tom Wilson, Zach Hyman, Mark Scheifele all seem like guys that could’ve been particularly useful in a game like this to penetrate the inside and retrieve pucks and make space for MacKinnon/McDavid. Hockey Canada doesn’t seem to know how to put a team together.

 

[jura]

Blues scored 1 goal and its Binners fault.. lol