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AEW All Elite Wrestling #8: Grabbing the Brass Ring of Honor

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CDJ said:
Meltzer stumbling over his words trying to imply Page is a bigger draw than Punk

Lol, lmao. Ok Dave. Can’t take his reporting seriously on this topic.
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Is anything he said wrong or did he just say things you disagree with? He never said Page was a bigger draw then Punk....he said Hangman has headlined a PPV that did bigger numbers then a show headlined by Punk. That isn't really an opinion it either happened or it didn't. End of the day what Punk draws means f*** all Hangman or anyone else doesn't have to take unsolicited advice from anyone. It is ironic seeing Punk become the old fogie in the back complaining about the younger wrestlers which is exactly what he complained about people doing in WWE!
 
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CDJ said:
Meltzer stumbling over his words trying to imply Page is a bigger draw than Punk

Lol, lmao. Ok Dave. Can’t take his reporting seriously on this topic.
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Only reporters I trust are PWinsider. Everyone else has favorites or sensationalizes and makes things up (or are marks to the people that feed them info)
 
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TheBeastCoast said:
Is anything he said wrong or did he just say things you disagree with? He never said Page was a bigger draw then Punk....he said Hangman has headlined a PPV that did bigger numbers then a show headlined by Punk. That isn't really an opinion it either happened or it didn't. End of the day what Punk draws means f*** all Hangman or anyone else doesn't have to take unsolicited advice from anyone. It is ironic seeing Punk become the old fogie in the back complaining about the younger wrestlers which is exactly what he complained about people doing in WWE!
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Do you think people are buying payperviews to watch Adam Page?
 
CDJ said:
Do you think people are buying payperviews to watch Adam Page?
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Some people. Not as many as would buy to see Punk. Punk is also going down the other side of the mountain where as Page is still young. I think the general point was that Hangman isn't some green rookie that has no accomplishments to his name. Which is absolutely true. Punk came in thinking everyone needed to lick his boots and when some people said "naw I'm good" he took it personally.
 
TheBeastCoast said:
Is anything he said wrong or did he just say things you disagree with? He never said Page was a bigger draw then Punk....he said Hangman has headlined a PPV that did bigger numbers then a show headlined by Punk. That isn't really an opinion it either happened or it didn't. End of the day what Punk draws means f*** all Hangman or anyone else doesn't have to take unsolicited advice from anyone. It is ironic seeing Punk become the old fogie in the back complaining about the younger wrestlers which is exactly what he complained about people doing in WWE!
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I presume Meltzer is meaning Revolution, which is disingenuous. Punk/MJF was responsible for that buyrate eventhough the title match main evented.
 
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Scandale du Jour said:
I sure did when he was chasing.
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you’re a part of a very niche market. Nothing wrong with that- I think Page is very good and he’s been the victim of bad booking- but hundreds of thousands of ppl (or even a hundred thousand) aren’t dropping PPV $$ to see him. Some people certainly will but the overwhelming majority are buying the PPV for other reasons- whether it be a stacked card top to bottom or other major mainstream draws or major feuds (Danielson, Punk-MJF)


They gotta start booking Danielson better imo
 
Meltzer is right about the rest though. CM Punk didn't build that company. The Elite alongside Hangman, Moxley, Jericho and MJF did. They were the guys who were there from day one, or in the case of a guy like Mox staked his reputation on joining such a new company when he could have gone anywhere.

My favorite bit of the summary thread from Reddit;

Dave says Punk had been a divisive figure and rubbing people off the wrong way in the locker room for a long time, telling guys to not do stuff that got them over and successful in the first place, preaching old business philosophies. He adds that some listened whilst others didn't, which made Punk angry.

So Punk basically became everything he hated about WWE.

What a jabroni. I still lean towards Tony bringing him back because of money factor but it sounds like the locker room might force him to do otherwise.
 
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Blitzkrug said:
Meltzer is right about the rest though. CM Punk didn't build that company. The Elite alongside Hangman, Moxley, Jericho and MJF did. They were the guys who were there from day one, or in the case of a guy like Mox staked his reputation on joining such a new company when he could have gone anywhere.

My favorite bit of the summary thread from Reddit;

Dave says Punk had been a divisive figure and rubbing people off the wrong way in the locker room for a long time, telling guys to not do stuff that got them over and successful in the first place, preaching old business philosophies. He adds that some listened whilst others didn't, which made Punk angry.

So Punk basically became everything he hated about WWE.

What a jabroni. I still lean towards Tony bringing him back because of money factor but it sounds like the locker room might force him to do otherwise.
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Reddit thread link?
 
Dave also says that as a producer it’s Ace Steel’s job to stop the fight?

Ok Dave, what’s the Young Buck’s and Omega’s responsibilities as EVP’s then? Surely to kick in a door to start an altercation lol

He’s such a partisan hack
 
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CDJ said:
Dave also says that as a producer it’s Ace Steel’s job to stop the fight?

Ok Dave, what’s the Young Buck’s and Omega’s responsibilities as EVP’s then? Surely to kick in a door to start an altercation lol

He’s such a partisan hack
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They didn't kick in the door. The punk camp story keeps changing. That's coming from SRS, not Meltzer.

And as a producer, maybe your job isn't to break up fights, but you also shouldn't be biting people.

Theres definitely some Buck propaganda in there (the Hangman drawing power thing) but a lot of that is just Dave confirming what other people have been saying
 
CDJ said:
Dave also says that as a producer it’s Ace Steel’s job to stop the fight?

Ok Dave, what’s the Young Buck’s and Omega’s responsibilities as EVP’s then? Surely to kick in a door to start an altercation lol

He’s such a partisan hack
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The whole kick the door thing has been pretty widely accepted as not true so I think you can move off that one now. They didn't bust the door down with the head of legal beside them. They just opened a door to a room they weren't welcome in and hyperbole went wild and it leads to one side saying they "busted through the door".
 
Meltzer specifically said it may or may not have happened.

With possible legal ramifications in play here I don’t know if we’ll get the full story for awhile
 
Omega and the Bucks, in their roles as EVP, went to talk to one of their employees that just spend 30 minutes disparaging their company and their other employees, as well as themselves. On top of this they brought legal, which in this case is pretty much HR.

Anything that escalated from this is 100% on Punk.
 
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Khelandros said:
Omega and the Bucks, in their roles as EVP, went to talk to one of their employees that just spend 30 minutes disparaging their company and their other employees, as well as themselves. On top of this they brought legal, which in this case is pretty much HR.

Anything that escalated from this is 100% on Punk.
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As an executive, you gotta choose your moment. The one they picked was uber dumb. They acted on emotion.

It is on them on some degree.
 
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i still say its a work. i might be bias as i thought the mjf promo was and turned out to be one.

this solves 2 issues punk is injured coming out of the ppv. word is he's out atleast till 2023.
the elite matt and nick have been dealing with injuries kenny i think still needs another month to get more ring rust off.

it gives the reset on the belts with out the injury factors being listed. now its just a media circus and any publicity is good publicity
 
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Blitzkrug said:
They didn't kick in the door. The punk camp story keeps changing. That's coming from SRS, not Meltzer.

And as a producer, maybe your job isn't to break up fights, but you also shouldn't be biting people.

Theres definitely some Buck propaganda in there (the Hangman drawing power thing) but a lot of that is just Dave confirming what other people have been saying
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Everybody knows they superkicked that door.
 
Jussi said:
Everybody knows they superkicked that door.
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No doubt.

The Bucks look at each other with a knowing glint in their eyes. "Super kick partayyyy!" They yell. Both feet making contact with the door at the same time.... exploding in pieces at Punk/steels face. Funny thing was, you couldn't even hear the actual explosion over the deafening sound of the dual thigh slaps. Upon gaining entry to Punks room they pose, confetti and streamers pop, Brandon cutler is there to spray them down.

Now THATS good television.
 
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