Proposal: All Bruins trade rumors/proposals: 16/17 Part VIII

[DKH]

so dan if you had to choose do you move JFK or Donato?

JFK is my guy

JFK-Pastrnak 2020

 

[Fenian24]

Brandon Carlo as a 19 year old under Julien - 21GP, 2G, 2A, 4pts +9
Brandon Carlo as a 20 year old under Julien - 34GP, 2G, 6A, 8pts -10

+9 to -10?

People talk about Landeskog's reduction in points going from .72 ppg to .71 ppg and no one is talking about this disturbing trend?

Move him now before he is worthless, or is it Juliens fault, gets confusing. Good prospect, looks to be a solid second pair level D, not Bobby Orr, also not Hal Gill. Should not be untouchable by any means.

 

[Fenian24]

This team with GL is still, at absolute best, second round and out. Why give up so many young assets?

I like the player....but not at the rumored cost. Just be patient and other deals will present themselves.

Because he is 24, not a rental and will be here and a top 6 forward for the next 5-8 seasons.

 

[Bergyesque]

If Cehlarik plays and produces like a top 6 and the 3rd line gels, you don't need to trade for Landeskog and you keep Carlo. In the off-season you can explore Landeskog again or roll him out with McAvoy next year.

Maybe it's me, but I don't see see Landeskog as a need if the cost is a young RHD...especially considering our team need is to improve the right side of our defense. If the Bruins go out west and continue to score at/around (under Cassidy) 4.67 G/G then why go out and get another forward?

I'm still on the fence about acquiring Landeskog. I like him a lot, but like you said, improving on the D on the rigth side might be more important.

That being said, I still think that 5 games is quite a small sample size to annoint Cehlarik as top 6 forward.

Also, the Bs will have to unload prospects one day or another; those top 15 prospects won't fit onto the team's pro roster over the next 2 or 3 years.
That's why I'm intrigued by the prospects of acquiring Landerskog for a few of them.

 

[Over the volcano]

But Landeskog alone doesn't make you a cup contender. So in reality your robbing your defense to help your offense, but your offense under Cassidy has looked pretty strong.

If Boston traded Carlo and didn't replace him, you have the same exact defense that was part of the collapse last year. How does that make any sense?

I'd rather have a future with Carlo/McAvoy occupying our top 4 vs Landeskog. It's not like we're thin w/ forward prospects, that's what confuses me about this move a little bit. If we had no winger help on the way, then ok, but that's not the case.

Landeskog gives you the best top six in the league. Of course they need to address the defense- but they would be able to do so with the rich forward prospects. Making this deal is one of opportunity, and it's a great opportunity (youth, talent, character, leadership, contract). A real paycheck is worth more than a handful of lottery tickets.

 

[LouJersey]

marchand-bergeron-backes
landeskog-krejci-pasta

Pittsburgh and arguably Washington better. Who else in the East?

 

[ON3M4N]

Can we put the breaks on Cehlarik for just a minute? I'm seeing people calling him a top 6 winger and some claiming we don't need Landeskog because of him. While I think he has played two very good games HE HAS PLAYED TWO GAMES. Bad example but if Austin Matthews had scored 4 games for the Bruins in his first game there would have been some demanding his number be retired before his second game.

Nice player so far, very good bargaining chip. Let's just grab a slight hold of reality and not have him in the hall of fame just yet.

If you're talking about me, that's not at all what I said. I said lets see what we have. If Cehlarik can play a top 6 role and give you top 6 production the need for Landeskog is gone.

If over the west coast swing it looks like he can't do that, then maybe you go out and get Landeskog, but again he's not the piece that make you a serious cup contender.

 

[Fonzerelli]

Because he is 24, not a rental and will be here and a top 6 forward for the next 5-8 seasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_fosKbCpfM

it never gets old

 

[Greek_physique]

marchand-bergeron-backes
landeskog-krejci-pasta

Pittsburgh and arguably Washington better. Who else in the East?

I honestly like the Rangers depth overall...they might not be as flashy, but they play well.

Also, I know the Leafs are a bunch of kids..but that forward group is dangerous when on. They play with no pressure, which only makes them better.

But you can make an argument that with our new forward group, our top 2 lines look great.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Brandon Carlo as a 19 year old under Julien - 21GP, 2G, 2A, 4pts +9
Brandon Carlo as a 20 year old under Julien - 34GP, 2G, 6A, 8pts -10

+9 to -10?

People talk about Landeskog's reduction in points going from .72 ppg to .71 ppg and no one is talking about this disturbing trend?

A young defensemen went on a slump when the rest of the team also did? That disturbing trend?

I'm really not overly impressed with Landeskog (as a franchise piece), and if we do acquire him, I give about a full year until people are riding him for not being the 30 goal scorer that he's never been. On a team top heavy with forwards: Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Backes, and likely Pastrnak, Landeskog will make us 6 forward top heavy.

With an aged Chara, Krug, and a plethora of bottom pairs. Yes, we can acquire another young top 4 defenseman, but I'd rather have defensive depth than the luxury of Landeskog, the 11 goal monster. Landeskog is a luxury for a contending team. The Bruins are still sorting out the mess on defense. And weakening that makes our team worse, and Landeskog isn't Crosby or McDavid.

 

[ON3M4N]

I'm still on the fence about acquiring Landeskog. I like him a lot, but like you said, improving on the D on the rigth side might be more important.

That being said, I still think that 5 games is quite a small sample size to annoint Cehlarik as top 6 forward.

Also, the Bs will have to unload prospects one day or another; those top 15 prospects won't fit onto the team's pro roster over the next 2 or 3 years.
That's why I'm intrigued by the prospects of acquiring Landerskog for a few of them.

But your not "anointing" him a top 6 forward. It's more of a "you know I think he can give us top 6 production down the stretch, so lets take a gamble and see what we have.

 

[ashnathan]

What am I missing on Gabe? These proposals of like 3/4 players and a first are crazy. Hes not that good! Hes 24, woopty doo. He has 11 goals and that is meant to be his biggest asset, goal scoring. No. Cant see it, dont like it, the Habs can have him.

 

[Over the volcano]

marchand-bergeron-backes
landeskog-krejci-pasta

Pittsburgh and arguably Washington better. Who else in the East?

Take a closer look at who Pittsburg is rolling out in their top six.

Kessel's third line role is the best thing that ever happened to him.



Landeskog krejci Backes compliments krejci like he was at his best with Horton and lucic.

 

[Oates2Neely]

I'd be far more excited if Landeskog were a dman. This blue line needs a stud or 3. I truly hope Sweeney will package up picks/ prospects and land a Brodin/ Spurgeon/ Fowler type. The heck with these "Boston type" two way 20 goal forwards. Give me defense or give me a sniper.

 

[Over the volcano]

A young defensemen went on a slump when the rest of the team also did? That disturbing trend?

I'm really not overly impressed with Landeskog (as a franchise piece), and if we do acquire him, I give about a full year until people are riding him for not being the 30 goal scorer that he's never been. On a team top heavy with forwards: Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Backes, and likely Pastrnak, Landeskog will make us 6 forward top heavy.

With an aged Chara, Krug, and a plethora of bottom pairs. Yes, we can acquire another young top 4 defenseman, but I'd rather have defensive depth than the luxury of Landeskog, the 11 goal monster. Landeskog is a luxury for a contending team. The Bruins are still sorting out the mess on defense. And weakening that makes our team worse, and Landeskog isn't Crosby or McDavid.

Forget waiting a year- people are riding him for it right now

 

[Fonzerelli]

A young defensemen went on a slump when the rest of the team also did? That disturbing trend?

You missed my sacrasm

We are willing to jump on Lando for a blip on his resume, a reduction in production as his team is in free fall, but we gloss over Carlo's reduction in production as his team struggles. Seems to me you can't have it both ways.

If we agree that it's normal players slump on bad teams, or during bad stretches - as we are saying with Carlo - and expect him to resume an upward trajectory, then isn't it fair to say that Lando will also continue his upwards trajectory when put in a better spot?

 

[Sheppy]

Because he is 24, not a rental and will be here and a top 6 forward for the next 5-8 seasons.

Yep. I agree.

 

[WesternHockeyScout]

You missed my sacrasm

We are willing to jump on Lando for a blip on his resume, a reduction in production as his team is in free fall, but we gloss over Carlo's reduction in production as his team struggles. Seems to me you can't have it both ways.

If we agree that it's normal players slump on bad teams, or during bad stretches - as we are saying with Carlo - and expect him to resume an upward trajectory, then isn't it fair to say that Lando will also continue his upwards trajectory when put in a better spot?

Stop. Making. Sense.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

What am I missing on Gabe? These proposals of like 3/4 players and a first are crazy. Hes not that good! Hes 24, woopty doo. He has 11 goals and that is meant to be his biggest asset, goal scoring. No. Cant see it, dont like it, the Habs can have him.

I wouldn't mind having him but not for what the rumours say he is going for.

 

[BruinDust]

Take a closer look at who Pittsburg is rolling out in their top six.

Kessel's third line role is the best thing that ever happened to him.



Landeskog krejci Backes compliments krejci like he was at his best with Horton and lucic.

Except they tried Backes with Krejci for 2/3 of a season and it never clicked. At all.

Adding Landeskog to that line isn't going to change the fact that the other two had no chemistry at all.

You sound like Julien with his Krejci + two Power Forward obsession.

 

[DKH]

If Sakic wants to rebuild his franchise I'd rather see him go somewhere else

Love landeskog but the stuff written is absurd

 

[LouJersey]

Except they tried Backes with Krejci for 2/3 of a season and it never clicked. At all.

Adding Landeskog to that line isn't going to change the fact that the other two had no chemistry at all.

You sound like Julien with his Krejci + two Power Forward obsession.

People forget how good of a skater Horton was.

 

[LouJersey]

I wonder how many here would have traded Bergeron when he was "damaged goods".

Lando could be a 25-35-60 guy here easily with DK and Pasta IMO

 

[DKH]

I wonder how many here would have traded Bergeron when he was "damaged goods".

Lando could be a 25-35-60 guy here easily with DK and Pasta IMO

Agree problem is the rumored package is like it's for Laine

 

[Bergyesque]

If Sakic wants to rebuild his franchise I'd rather see him go somewhere else

Love landeskog but the stuff written is absurd

Dan, what would you be willing to give for Landeskog?