Proposal: All Bruins trade rumors/proposals: 16/17 Part VIII

[riverhawkey91]

I think it's more like Carlo, Heinen, Hayes, ________.

Fill in the blank.

If Colorado sees themselves in re-build, they can eat Hayes for one more year but not Beleskey for 3.

I don't know about that. Beleskey can at least still play; Hayes is just terrible. Despite how we've some to view Beleskey since signing him, he was actually only a few percentage points below his APPG for his last season in Anaheim before we grabbed him (both just under .5 PPG).

It's also not like Colorado has a ton of cap tied up going forward. If they move Landeskog, they'll only have 4 players tied up for all of those 3 years, and currently have a lot of UFAs going into next year. They might be more interested in Beleskey than Hayes as he could actually be an asset for them rather than a straight cap dump.

 

[Greek_physique]

Oates

JFK-Pastrnak will be incredible

If Sweeney includes him I know it was for the playoffs and not in the best interest going forward

He's a legit top 2 center and the guys in front are 30 & 31

We will look back and wonder wtf in a few years

I'd rather give up Carlo in all honesty

So he was playing in the BP Finals?

Just trying to understand who Sakic was looking at.....maybe he reminds him of Forsberg - playmaking abilities.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Would anyone be upset if the roster player was Vatrano?

I would Franky has 8 goal ,Landeskog has 11 ,and half as many games for Frankie Colorado can keep him .

 

[Absurdity]

So he was playing in the BP Finals?

Just trying to understand who Sakic was looking at.....maybe he reminds him of Forsberg - playmaking abilities.

Sakic could have also been looking at Donato. I doubt McAvoy would be included in a trade for Landeskog.

 

[DKH]

Sakic could have also been looking at Donato. I doubt McAvoy would be included in a trade for Landeskog.

Donato is very good but he's like the family dog. No way they are dealing Ryan Donato with Don Sweeney GM. Zero.zero

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Donato is very good but he's like the family dog. No way they are dealing Ryan Donato with Don Sweeney GM. Zero.zero

Yeah agreed. Sweeney would trade McAvoy before Donato.

Its sad that im only half kidding here.

 

[ranold26]

Carlo, Spooner, Hayes, Gabrielle and 1st
for
Landeskog, Tyutin and 4th

 

[Greek_physique]

Donato is very good but he's like the family dog. No way they are dealing Ryan Donato with Don Sweeney GM. Zero.zero

Is this because Sweeney and him are close friends or more because of the Harvard connection?

 

[BruinDust]

Would anyone be upset if the roster player was Vatrano?

I would be.

But I'm a big Vatrano supporter, and probably think is upside is higher than others do.

 

[Bruwinz37]

Carlo, Spooner, Hayes, Gabrielle and 1st
for
Landeskog, Tyutin and 4th

No thanks. That would be a disaster from our perspective.

 

[ranold26]

No thanks. That would be a disaster from our perspective.

Yeah I know....hence why I wouldn't be surprised...given all the smoke and criteria etc.
I don't even want to move Carlo.
I think we need to acquire a D, more so than anything.

 

[BruinDust]

I think it's more like Carlo, Heinen, Hayes, ________.

Fill in the blank.

If Colorado sees themselves in re-build, they can eat Hayes for one more year but not Beleskey for 3.

Maybe but I'm just seeing what DKH's response would be to the proposed deal with JFK removed and another prospect inserted.

 

[DKH]

Is this because Sweeney and him are close friends or more because of the Harvard connection?

He's very good first and foremost and legit prospect but IMO and others will certainly disagree the other stuff doesn't hurt

He could be held out on his own merit as well

I don't want Donato in it either but the two BU guys I don't include

 

[BruinDust]

The more I think about it, the more Spooner makes sense to me. He's a replacement of sorts for Lando and fits with the Colorado rebuild. He's not a great fit in Boston, IMO.

Carlo + Spooner + Hayes + Fitzgerald

for

Lando + Tyutin

It doesn't really fit the current narratives, but it works

Any deal that involves Carlo and Spooner for Landeskog is essentially trading Carlo to upgrade from Spooner to Landeskog, while I'm not a Spooner fan, that's a terrible price to pay for that sort of upgrade.

Like Connolly, like Vatrano, production wise there isn't a massive difference between Landeskog and Spooner. +/- 10 pts or so I would think.

Sure you would assume your getting a lot more on top of production from Landeskog in terms of defensive play, net front presence, leadership, etc. etc.

Are all those things worth Carlo?

Nope.

Fact is, the Bruins are already investing enough cash into those sorts of qualities with guys like Marchand, Bergeron, and Backes.

Dealing Carlo I need to see a better D coming back, or a top-end skilled forward, a game-breaker on the offense, not more intangibles.

 

[ON3M4N]

The longer this thing goes, the more I'd prefer we stand pat until the deadline. Lets see what this team has over the next 5 games. If Cehlarik continues to play well and the 3rd line gels, we may not need that "big piece" now.

 

[whatsbruin]

I'm going to agree with Dan here. If you're initials are JFK, don't you have to play in Boston. I mean you could go to Washington, but that doesn't end well ...

Don't you mean - never mind

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Watch there be this mega surprise and Krug is the one that goes

 

[Bruinfanatic]

The longer this thing goes, the more I'd prefer we stand pat until the deadline. Lets see what this team has over the next 5 games. If Cehlarik continues to play well and the 3rd line gels, we may not need that "big piece" now.

Exactly.

 

[Fonzerelli]

So he was playing in the BP Finals?

Just trying to understand who Sakic was looking at.....maybe he reminds him of Forsberg - playmaking abilities.

The non-NHL regular prospects we know that Colorado has had eyes on since Dom's tweet last Monday

Cehlarik, JFK, Donato, Fitzgerald, McAvoy (untouchable), Gabrielle and Sherman.

That's the ones we know of anyways

 

[BruinDust]

The non-NHL regular prospects we know that Colorado has had eyes on since Dom's tweet last Monday

Cehlarik, JFK, Donato, Fitzgerald, McAvoy (untouchable), Gabrielle and Sherman.

That's the ones we know of anyways

I wonder if any Colorado scouts have been to any P-Bruins games.

 

[Fonzerelli]

Sure you would assume your getting a lot more on top of production from Landeskog in terms of defensive play, net front presence, leadership, etc. etc.

Are all those things worth Carlo?

Nope.

Fact is, the Bruins are already investing enough cash into those sorts of qualities with guys like Marchand, Bergeron, and Backes.

Dealing Carlo I need to see a better D coming back, or a top-end skilled forward, a game-breaker on the offense, not more intangibles.

We disagree on the upside of Landeskog, current and future and Carlo, current and future.

I think you over-value Carlo and under-value Landeskog.

You think I do the opposite.

Easy to see why we can't agree.

That's ok to. The world would be an awful boring place if we all agreed. If we can keep Carlo and get Lando, most Bruins fans would be excited I think ... unless it involves JFK ... then we'll be talking Dan off the ledge.

 

[Broonzfanz]

Carlo, Spooner, Hayes, Gabrielle and 1st
for
Landeskog, Tyutin and 4th

How about Carlo, Spooner and 1st for Landeskog, Erik Johnson

 

[Bergyesque]

The longer this thing goes, the more I'd prefer we stand pat until the deadline. Lets see what this team has over the next 5 games. If Cehlarik continues to play well and the 3rd line gels, we may not need that "big piece" now.

The thing is that such trade would not be, or at least should not be, only for this year.
Not saying it doesn't matter, but does evaluating Cehlarik, the 3rd line or whatever for 4 or 5 more games will give us a much better idea, or a definitive idea of where all this is going?
To us fans, maybe, but I hope that's not the case for management.

 

[OConnellsProtege]

The non-NHL regular prospects we know that Colorado has had eyes on since Dom's tweet last Monday

Cehlarik, JFK, Donato, Fitzgerald, McAvoy (untouchable), Gabrielle and Sherman.

That's the ones we know of anyways

JFK and Gabrielle should stay on the untouchables list, at least in my books. I think they're both too good to let go. In fact, I would probably move McAvoy before those two.

 

[BruinDust]

We disagree on the upside of Landeskog, current and future and Carlo, current and future.

I think you over-value Carlo and under-value Landeskog.

You think I do the opposite.

Easy to see why we can't agree.

That's ok to. The world would be an awful boring place if we all agreed. If we can keep Carlo and get Lando, most Bruins fans would be excited I think ... unless it involves JFK ... then we'll be talking Dan off the ledge.

It's a fun debate.

Yeah for the most part, if they can do this without any roster players that aren't cap dumps (Belesky), or McAvoy, I'll be pleased.

I have handful of prospects I don't want to see dealt (Bjork, JFK, Senyshyn), but after that it's pretty wide open. I don't value some of our other prospects like Heinen or Zboril as much as others.

If anything, this Landeskog discussion has shown that their is quite a variance in opinions on Boston's top 10-15 prospects/young players. And the fact we have 10-15 guys that some insist on holding onto is a good thing.