Speculation: All Bruins trade proposals/rumors VIII: Over the Holiday Freeze

[Fire Sweeney]

Pretty sure Vermette and Bergeron work out together in the offseason, or at least they have in the past. They are pretty good buddies, with Bergeron even nominating Vermette for the ice bucket challenge this summer.

Not sure if that's been mentioned or not.

Sounds as promising as the Gagne signing. They might as well name Bergeron the assistant GM to make sure we get every Quebec plug in the league.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

That all said, I think the remainder of my post on Vermette still stands. He's not achieved 20+ goals in the last four seasons more than once under any coach. And doing so, seems to be the exception, rather than the rule, for his offensive production.

Exactly... he got those points by having far too much ice time on a budget team. Any team counting on Vermette to provide offense is bound to stay mediocre.

 

[Absurdity]

None of them should sniff anything more than a spot on the bench. Unless this team has thrown in the towel, giving Pastrnak a look is useless. Same with fraser, Griffith and cunningham. Cunningham could be a good 4th line option.

I don't think it's useless. What's the worst that can happen? He can look good there, and they can decide if he's capable of playing there next season while developing more in the AHL. That would allow them to look at guys who have 1 year terms on their deal to fill that 1st line RW spot. Or, Pastrnak shows that he's still too young, and he returns back to Providence to work on his development and growth for a year or two. That allows management to maybe look at a guy who maybe has a longer term on his contract for that 1st line RW spot.

I love Pasta but I just think it's far too soon to shoulder him with the responsibility to fix the sad Bruins offense.

He's too young and still has to build up his physical strength. He got beat around a bullied in a few of his final games, particularly against LA.

The *responsible* thing for the Bruins FO is make the necessary but smaller moves to shore up offense for this season (e.g., Stewart as a buy low with some scoring upside and "heaviness"), make bigger moves off season to significantly improve it (e.g., acquire elite scoring like Hall by trading significant assets: some combo of Rask/Eriksson/Lucic/Krug/or Subban), and introduce Pasta next season on the third line RW, to build his confidence and role.

It is surely an indictment of the FO to be so desperate as to expect an 18 year old kid, fresh off the draft podium, to replace Iginla on the top line. Not quite as silly as playing a 4th line energy guy in Cunningham there, but probably more reckless in terms of Pasta's development.

You kind of answered my point on Pastrnak and then went back up and down throughout your post pertaining to my stance .

I agree with the bolded, the underlined depends how Pastrnak performs when he's called up (my response to redbeard). I doubt Chiarelli burns his ELC this year. When Pastrnak gets called up, it will most likely be an evaluation of Pastrnak in that 1st line RW role. Chiarelli said it himself, the kid is better suited in a top 6 role, and I don't think you touch that 3rd line with Soderberg and Eriksson.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Ah, yes, Michael Ryder: invincible in May; invisible Oct-Apr.

Are the Bruins still playing in May though?

 

[CDJ]

Sounds as promising as the Gagne signing. They might as well name Bergeron the assistant GM to make sure we get every Quebec plug in the league.

In fairness to Vermette, he is a much better player than Gagne is.

 

[CDJ]

whats with people thinking pastrnak is ready for a scoring role or any role on the bruins? he looked awful today against sweden.

I think most people are going to go with the 25+ game sample size of over a PPG production against men over one game in a Juniors tournament, if that answers your question.

I'd prefer he spend the season in Providence myself, but he didn't look bad in his limited time here. He is going to get another look at some point, so hopefully they put him in an opportunity to succeed.

 

[dup7]

Vermette is a very solid player but doesn't address Bruins needs and will cost a lot.

Chris Stewart, (yes, I know most have written him off), will cost significantly less and has potential to be exactly what the Bruins need.

I would try to add Stewart and a Sykera type and roll the dice.

 

[ODAAT]

This will do nothing but make the blood of Bruin fans boil

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2014/12/bruins_failing_grades

what we see is what we get until an opponent is ready to make a deal, I really liked PC`s candid assessment though

 

[PlayMakers]

This will do nothing but make the blood of Bruin fans boil

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2014/12/bruins_failing_grades

what we see is what we get until an opponent is ready to make a deal, I really liked PC`s candid assessment though

I'd like to see an "internal assessment" of Chiarelli's job performance since last season ended.

Not that he's wrong mind you (although I think Dougie Hamilton is the closest to meeting/exceeding expectations), but he complains that players aren't playing up to expectations and he's essentially handicapped three of the four lines and at least one of the d pairs by not replacing guys like Iginla, Thornton and Boychuk. Add to that, the losses of Krejci and Chara for most of the first quarter and it's a wonder they are where they are. I mean, take away Chicago's 1 & 2 dman, their #1c, their top goal scorer and their best energy forward and you don't think their play would fall off sharply?

 

[Over the volcano]

This will do nothing but make the blood of Bruin fans boil

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2014/12/bruins_failing_grades

what we see is what we get until an opponent is ready to make a deal, I really liked PC`s candid assessment though

Love the shot at lucic at the end- "after badly losing a fight..."

Is it a fight if only one guy thinks he's fighting?

 

[BNHL]

I'd like to see an "internal assessment" of Chiarelli's job performance since last season ended.

Not that he's wrong mind you (although I think Dougie Hamilton is the closest to meeting/exceeding expectations), but he complains that players aren't playing up to expectations and he's essentially handicapped three of the four lines and at least one of the d pairs by not replacing guys like Iginla, Thornton and Boychuk. Add to that, the losses of Krejci and Chara for most of the first quarter and it's a wonder they are where they are. I mean, take away Chicago's 1 & 2 dman, their #1c, their top goal scorer and their best energy forward and you don't think their play would fall off sharply?

I've been beating that drum all year,if people used their common sense about this season the forums would dry up. Essentially 5 veterans (2 HOF caliber)replaced by rookies.

 

[Danton Heineken]

I'd like to see an "internal assessment" of Chiarelli's job performance since last season ended.

Chiarelli: "I'm gonna go talk to Stephen Harris and devalue all of my own players!"

 

[Ice Nine]

Chiarelli: "I'm gonna go talk to Stephen Harris and devalue all of my own players!"

"No one will trade with me. So let me strengthen my hand by talking to the media and crapping all over the assets that, already, nobody wants".

 

[Over the volcano]

"No one will trade with me. So let me strengthen my hand by talking to the media and crapping all over the assets that, already, nobody wants".

Chiarelli: "I'm gonna go talk to Stephen Harris and devalue all of my own players!"

"Underperforming" would mean they are better than their numbers to this point- how is that "devaluing " or "crapping on" their worth?

 

[BNHL]

Chiarelli: "I'm gonna go talk to Stephen Harris and devalue all of my own players!"

Isn't he saying "All my players are better than this"?

 

[mich25]

At this point maybe you do just try to land Chris Stewart on the cheap and cross your fingers. I think it will be hard for Chia to add what we really need this season, I even think it will be hard at the trade deadline too. Just don't think that top 6 skilled forward is out there. EDM prices are going to be through the roof and I don't think Chia is going to want to make a significant trade this year, maybe in the offseason, but I can't think of what skilled forwards are going to be UFAs who will be a fit for our 1st line. I wonder if it's best to try to land a 2nd pairing Dman instead of wasting cap $$$ on Stewart who may or may not make any difference at all, but it comes down to who would be available. I don't see anything significant happening now or even really at the deadline, hope I'm wrong though.

 

[LouJersey]

Love the shot at lucic at the end- "after badly losing a fight..."

Is it a fight if only one guy thinks he's fighting?

Cannot wait u til Lucic pummels him tonight.

 

[LouJersey]

This will do nothing but make the blood of Bruin fans boil

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2014/12/bruins_failing_grades

what we see is what we get until an opponent is ready to make a deal, I really liked PC`s candid assessment though

Shows exactly why he's an idiot for dealing Boychuk. You knew his series of moves were never happening , that he has trouble making deals come together most years...you knew it would be some deadline moves , nothing big early to help the team. Same **** from him.

 

[Bruwinz37]

I love Chiarelli's comment regarding how difficult it is to make a trade in the NHL. It's especially difficult to do so when half your team have NTC.

The trades made should be about next year. Hope a contender comes asking for Kelly and it's a city he would be ok to be traded with. Hopefully someone overpays for Loui, and even consider moving on from Seidenberg (although he is a huge favorite of mine) of the price is right.

We have contracts up that will require major increases and are must signs.

It's going to be tough to find the pieces we need to make us a cup contender. Get in the playoffs...maybe but I am not interested at 1 and done if it means risking losing guys for the future due to not clearing salary.

This team does not have much of an identity right now. Not overly tough, not fast, not big, don't score enough. Not sure a trade fixes that. It's about next year.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

man I am so tired of Peter Chiarelli's ********

 

[CDJ]

This place is classic.

***** and ***** and ***** about Chiarelli not making a trade and then when he does 75% of those same people jump down his throat calling if an awful deal.

Things have not changed much since 2006.

Wouldn't have it any other way, LF

 

[Bruwinz37]

This place is classic.

***** and ***** and ***** about Chiarelli not making a trade and then when he does 75% of those same people jump down his throat calling if an awful deal.

Things have not changed much since 2006.

Wouldn't have it any other way, LF

What are you talking about? The only deal he made this year was the Boychuck trade and it was a move that really hurt this team. And it was only done because he painted himself into a corner.

 

[KnightofBoston]

I love Chiarelli's comment regarding how difficult it is to make a trade in the NHL. It's especially difficult to do so when half your team have NTC.

The trades made should be about next year. Hope a contender comes asking for Kelly and it's a city he would be ok to be traded with. Hopefully someone overpays for Loui, and even consider moving on from Seidenberg (although he is a huge favorite of mine) of the price is right.

We have contracts up that will require major increases and are must signs.

It's going to be tough to find the pieces we need to make us a cup contender. Get in the playoffs...maybe but I am not interested at 1 and done if it means risking losing guys for the future due to not clearing salary.

This team does not have much of an identity right now. Not overly tough, not fast, not big, don't score enough. Not sure a trade fixes that. It's about next year.

I want to see them win as much as possible, but I'm inclined to side with this post and feel putting themselves in a good spot at the draft and retooling for next year is what they need to do at this point

 

[DNE3]

delicious quote
“The team can score, but we’re not scoring right now,” said Chiarelli. “Mind you, we’ve had scoring slumps before. I just don’t think we’ve ever gone this long scoring at this level. It’s a crisis of confidence a little bit.”
and 'Maybe the five goals against Nashville will change that.'

Meaning the team finally found a backup goalie they can beat, and he plays for Nashville. Pete just reupped his old-school coach who believes offence just gets in the way of more good defence. Unfortunately, the NHL is heading the opposite direction, and Claude and Pete got left behind at the train station holding hands.

 

[Hali33]

“It’s hard to make a trade in this league,†said Chiarelli. “It’s not for lack of trying. We don’t have any trades upcoming. We’re in a position where we think we can hopefully add a decent player. But no one is giving them away and there’s nothing going on.â€

Yes Chiarelli, it is difficult trying to fill a need on the first line with the season underway. Who would have thought.

Thank god we got those Boychuk picks when there's no trades on the horizon for Step 2.