Proposal: All Bruins Rumours/Proposals 2020 II

[TcTap]

I would say trade Gryz, Moore, Heinen, Nordstrom, Wagner and fetch some 2nd line rw. Its not even giving up much. This team is basically held together by 1.5 line and good defence.

 

[TCB]

Listening to all the experts talk the last couple of days, the only player on any of the "trade lists" that will garner a first rounder is Kreider. And even then they were split on whether they'd pay it.

Why would GMs want to drive up the value of a possible trade option down the road in a deep draft, by saying their first is available?

I don't think too many want to deal this years first, so their not going to come out and say its available, and I really don't see GMs sharing their true motives/plans with even the big 4.

I know McKenzie,Dreger Friedman and lebrun, seem to get the scoop in advance of others, but even those guys as highly respected as they maybe,no GM is willing to spill his true intentions.

I did notice TSN had Carolina's first round pick being available, but my guess is their looking for a Hamilton replacement.
TSN Hockey's Trade Bait List - TSN.ca

 

[DKH]

Listening to all the experts talk the last couple of days, the only player on any of the "trade lists" that will garner a first rounder is Kreider. And even then they were split on whether they'd pay it.

All the experts? I know I’m one who are the others ?

 

[Bodit9]

how would we afford to re-sign him though? He’s going to be asking for a contract in the $7m AAV range. Would almost automatically mean we don’t sign krug unless we give up serious draft capital to move backes.

We'd probably have to trade Krejci at that point and use that money on Kreider, promote Coyle to 2C & Frederic or Stud to 3C.

 

[Bodit9]

Heinen, Cehlarik, and conditional 2nd (moves to 1st if re-signed) for Kreider (50% retained)

Marchy/Bergy/Pasta
Kreider/Krejci/Kuhlman
JDB/Coyle/Bjork
Nords/Kuraly/Wags
-Lindholm/Blidh/Senyshyn/Frederic/Stud

Chara/McAvoy
Krug/Carlo
Gryz/Cliffy
-Lauzon/Moore/Miller(?)/Kampfer

 

[sarge88]

Players I feel could or should be used as trade chips: Moore, Zboril, Cehlarik, Kuhlman, Fitzgerald ,JFK

Players I am comfortable trading in the right deal: Heinen, Kuraly, Nordstrom ,Wangner

Think one of Grzelcyk, or Krug could be moved if the return works

Moore and/or Heinen are the most likely to be moved, IMO, simply due to the fact that they have decent cap hits and the B's will need to move money out if they're going to take anyone of significance on.

 

[BruinsNetwork]

Not sure what Nashville will be looking for, but Granlund could somehow end up being cheaper than Kreider and could prove to be a better option. He's an all around top-six forward who has the ability to produce some high-end points in the right environment. I think Boston would be an area where this player could absolutely thrive.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

After the TDL, if the 2nd line RW is set combination of Kuhlman/Bjork/Heinen, then I don't see this team winning it. Even with the addition of a Kreider, you still have a massive hole on the right side.

 

[ODAAT]

Not sure what Nashville will be looking for, but Granlund could somehow end up being cheaper than Kreider and could prove to be a better option. He's an all around top-six forward who has the ability to produce some high-end points in the right environment. I think Boston would be an area where this player could absolutely thrive.

an acquisition of a guy like Granlund is kind of what I`m expecting and don`t really have a problem with as I`ve never been a fan who believes the team who makes the biggest splash wins. All comes down to what acquisition has the ability and game that could best assimilate with the needs of the B`s

Even last year, not sure anyone here would view the Coyle and Mojo trades as big splashes, both players clearly skilled and hardly JAG`s in the league but we found out that you don`t have to be an upper tier player to make an impact.

We will see, DS will do something, hope it`s sooner than later and not because I`m panicked about anything but I`m just one who believes the more time a player has with his new team, the better prepared they are for the playoffs

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Id rather kreider than Palmieri to be honest. Then try and get another big defenseman if miller isnt coming back

kreider-krejci-??? who goes here??? I still would like to see Heinen on first line RW before and if we trade him. I am not set on keeping that first line together.

I think in the end we are best getting kreider.
Id like to see Marchand-Bergy-Heinen
Kreider-Krejci-Pasta
Debrusk-Coyle-Kulman
4th line

Kuhlman with Krejci and Kreider. Bjork stays with Coyle, he ain't going anywhere and I move Heinen before I sit Bjork.

 

[BruinsNetwork]

an acquisition of a guy like Granlund is kind of what I`m expecting and don`t really have a problem with as I`ve never been a fan who believes the team who makes the biggest splash wins. All comes down to what acquisition has the ability and game that could best assimilate with the needs of the B`s

Even last year, not sure anyone here would view the Coyle and Mojo trades as big splashes, both players clearly skilled and hardly JAG`s in the league but we found out that you don`t have to be an upper tier player to make an impact.

We will see, DS will do something, hope it`s sooner than later and not because I`m panicked about anything but I`m just one who believes the more time a player has with his new team, the better prepared they are for the playoffs

I expect someone like Toffoli, but make no mistake about it, Granlund is easily one of the highest-end forwards "available" this year. He's a true top-six forward and has produced as such over the years. He's nota good fit in Nashville, though, and I think he would be best suited in an environment like Boston where he doesn't have to be pressured and rolled out as one of "the" guys each night. He's a natural center, but when he's on the ice you can see him look just as effective on any side.

Cost? Well, that's tricky as Nashville traded a young top-nine forward for him in Fiala. Does Heinen and a pick move a needle for them? Is that something Boston would be interested in doing for a guy that could walk or might not be able to be retained? Maybe, maybe not.

 

[Lobster57]

I would say trade Gryz, Moore, Heinen, Nordstrom, Wagner and fetch some 2nd line rw. Its not even giving up much. This team is basically held together by 1.5 line and good defence.

this isn't an EA game, you can't just keep adding guys until the value bars are close and call it good.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Kreider or Palmieri would be a fit, find a way to get it done and get the lines organized.

 

[UncleRico]

Heinen, Cehlarik, and conditional 2nd (moves to 1st if re-signed) for Kreider (50% retained)

Marchy/Bergy/Pasta
Kreider/Krejci/Kuhlman
JDB/Coyle/Bjork
Nords/Kuraly/Wags
-Lindholm/Blidh/Senyshyn/Frederic/Stud

Chara/McAvoy
Krug/Carlo
Gryz/Cliffy
-Lauzon/Moore/Miller(?)/Kampfer

how are we signing kreider back next year? Hes going to be commanding 7m+ a year. Do we really want to move heinen who is under control for next year at $2.8m for a couple months of kreider, then have two holes in the lineup with kreider and heinen gone?

 

[ODAAT]

I expect someone like Toffoli, but make no mistake about it, Granlund is easily one of the highest-end forwards "available" this year. He's a true top-six forward and has produced as such over the years. He's nota good fit in Nashville, though, and I think he would be best suited in an environment like Boston where he doesn't have to be pressured and rolled out as one of "the" guys each night. He's a natural center, but when he's on the ice you can see him look just as effective on any side.

Cost? Well, that's tricky as Nashville traded a young top-nine forward for him in Fiala. Does Heinen and a pick move a needle for them? Is that something Boston would be interested in doing for a guy that could walk or might not be able to be retained? Maybe, maybe not.

we will see, truth is, not sure I have ever called a trade correctly nor the return for a player.

I think a guy like Smith would be a better fit, not sure why as I like both he and Granlund`s game with Granlund being the higher end player but I just get the sense Smith would assimilate quicker

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

I expect someone like Toffoli, but make no mistake about it, Granlund is easily one of the highest-end forwards "available" this year. He's a true top-six forward and has produced as such over the years. He's nota good fit in Nashville, though, and I think he would be best suited in an environment like Boston where he doesn't have to be pressured and rolled out as one of "the" guys each night. He's a natural center, but when he's on the ice you can see him look just as effective on any side.

Cost? Well, that's tricky as Nashville traded a young top-nine forward for him in Fiala. Does Heinen and a pick move a needle for them? Is that something Boston would be interested in doing for a guy that could walk or might not be able to be retained? Maybe, maybe not.

Yeah, i've brought him up a few times. He's like a higher end Johansson. He'd be a good pickup and has played more RW I think than Jojo has.

Between Grandlund, Kreider, Palmieri, Toffoli, and others Sweeney has got to make a significant move this year. The pieces are out there so there's no excuse for him to fall short.

 

[ON3M4N]

Kreider house 20 miles up route 1 to Garden

he’s the one rental that I’d think can be resigned

not sure why Rangers just don’t sign him

not a lot of miles on him - he wasn’t playing 200 games a year as a kid

he’s getting better and as a power forward I can see him producing 2-5 years past what others do

he’s a horse and a natural

Question is what's that number. Since 2017-2018 his production comps are around Zucker and JVR. So would a 5-6 year deal at say $6 million going to get it done? Can Boston fit that in and re-sign DeBrusk? Could you get DeBrusk to take a short-term low money deal? I mean if you could roll something like this next year, I'd be happy

Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak
Kreider - Krejci - Senyshyn/Khulman
DeBrusk - Coyle - Bjork
Nordstrom - Krualy - Wagner

No Heinen as I imagine he'd be potentially traded in the deal. If they kept him though, he could be your #2RW, just isn't going to be as good offensively. Of course the other piece is Krug/Grz.

 

[Fenian24]

Yeah, i've brought him up a few times. He's like a higher end Johansson. He'd be a good pickup and has played more RW I think than Jojo has.

Between Grandlund, Kreider, Palmieri, Toffoli, and others Sweeney has got to make a significant move this year. The pieces are out there so there's no excuse for him to fall short.

While looking through an unused desk in his office Don Sweeney finds Peter Chiarelli's memo "How to explain not making a move at the deadline when you are close to winning a cup". Soon Donnie starts using statements like "The cost was too high" and "It's hard to make trades" as Kreider goes to Washington for 2 3rd's and a box of hockey tape.

 

[Smitty93]

I expect someone like Toffoli, but make no mistake about it, Granlund is easily one of the highest-end forwards "available" this year. He's a true top-six forward and has produced as such over the years. He's nota good fit in Nashville, though, and I think he would be best suited in an environment like Boston where he doesn't have to be pressured and rolled out as one of "the" guys each night. He's a natural center, but when he's on the ice you can see him look just as effective on any side.

Cost? Well, that's tricky as Nashville traded a young top-nine forward for him in Fiala. Does Heinen and a pick move a needle for them? Is that something Boston would be interested in doing for a guy that could walk or might not be able to be retained? Maybe, maybe not.

I've definitely got interest in Granlund, but the compensation is the tough part for me. $5.75M cap hit, so going to need them to retain. Nashville's right on the edge of the playoffs, based on point %, so they may not sell, and if they do, it might not be until the last minute. He's a UFA at the end of the year, but, as you said, they traded Fiala for him just a year ago, so despite his value dropping, they may not be willing to trade him for something "fair."

He's a better player than Heinen, but the trouble I have is their offensive production has basically been the same this year, while I think Heinen's better defensively. Add to that the fact that Heinen's signed for another year at $2.8M, and it seems like it would be an overpay. Trading for Granlund is all about trading for the Minnesota version, but the problem is that I'd only want to pay the cost of the Nashville version. Basically, if you can get him cheap, go for it. Otherwise, the risk doesn't make sense to me.

 

[ON3M4N]

I expect someone like Toffoli, but make no mistake about it, Granlund is easily one of the highest-end forwards "available" this year. He's a true top-six forward and has produced as such over the years. He's nota good fit in Nashville, though, and I think he would be best suited in an environment like Boston where he doesn't have to be pressured and rolled out as one of "the" guys each night. He's a natural center, but when he's on the ice you can see him look just as effective on any side.

Cost? Well, that's tricky as Nashville traded a young top-nine forward for him in Fiala. Does Heinen and a pick move a needle for them? Is that something Boston would be interested in doing for a guy that could walk or might not be able to be retained? Maybe, maybe not.

Its crazy to see how much is production has dropped since going to Nashville. I'd be curious as to what they are asking him to do that he's not comfortable with. I mean to go from a .76 P/GP player in MIN to a .36 P/GP in NSH, it screams something is way off with him and Nashville.

 

[The don godfather]

Let's do a trade for now and the future. Kevin fiala for 2nd round pick danton heinen and zboril.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

Kuhlman with Krejci and Kreider. Bjork stays with Coyle, he ain't going anywhere and I move Heinen before I sit Bjork.

kuhlman as 2nd line RW??? no way. He's a perfect 3rd or 4th line winger.

 

[UncleRico]

After the TDL, if the 2nd line RW is set combination of Kuhlman/Bjork/Heinen, then I don't see this team winning it. Even with the addition of a Kreider, you still have a massive hole on the right side.

im more interested in Toffoli or palmieri to be honest. Cheaper, palmieri contract will make it easier to retain players next year.

 

[TcTap]

this isn't an EA game, you can't just keep adding guys until the value bars are close and call it good.

hah good one. I didnt mean it like that thou. What i tried to say is that these guys carry little importaance to the team and we should look to trade them and gain someone whos better fit. Gryzlyck + heinen and maybe a pick could get us something good.

 

[kthx]

Not sure what Nashville will be looking for, but Granlund could somehow end up being cheaper than Kreider and could prove to be a better option. He's an all around top-six forward who has the ability to produce some high-end points in the right environment. I think Boston would be an area where this player could absolutely thrive.

Get Koivu from MIN aswell. Solid duo.