Proposal: All Bruins Rumours/Proposals 2020 II

[TCB]

I am not a GM guy; there's a reason I'm getting a degree to become a librarian as opposed to running a sports team. But I DO know if I could have either in a trade i'd take Kreider over Toffoli. Just my thought. If you're gonna swing for one more chance at the cup, go with the guy that has almost reached 20 goals on the season.

Great profession and well compensated, good for you.

Kreider over toffoli easily, but your going to anti up a lot more and there will be a lot more suitors for him. While Toffoli may just be the answer,but at nearly the cost.

My man is Craig Smith who rolls in around the toffoli value, but has more grit and can put the puck in the net.

 

[TwineTickler]

A signed Krug is worth more than Bertuzzi. He averages more time on ice per game than Patrice Bergeron does. He is not going to get that kind of ice time here.

I suppose that's true... so fine. Signed and trade Krug for Bertuzzi +. Even better

 

[DKH]

Talented winger with a great cap hit signed for one more season, and he won't have to be protected in the expansion draft (protect Frederic instead).

The only questions I have, are the Devils willing to trade him and for how much?

Outstanding point by you on expansion protection for him

Devils D a mess and Bruins can include the 1

Palmeiri when you add the 16 teams that would not have interest added to his 8 team no trade list has a lot of control

all things Palmeiri to the Bruins is the most logical deal

This is my preference if I’m Sweeney

 

[KillerMillerTime]

That would be an incredible low hit and manageable but Moore is an NHL player and has value around the league, not a chance the bruins would buy him out.

They could nab a 3rd pick easily for him.

He is the #7/8 dman on Boston and #4 at LD.
2.7M for a #7/8 is a lousy position to be in trade
wise. You might find a GM to give you
a 4/5 round pick. Doubt you're getting a 3rd rd pick
for him.

Better chance that most GM's are asking for the pick.
They know Moore doesn't play regularly in the top
6 in Boston, he makes 2.7 M, why would they give Boston a 3rd?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

He is the #7/8 dman on Boston and #4 at LD.
2.7M for a #7/8 is a lousy position to be in trade
wise. You might find a GM to give you
a 4/5 round pick. Doubt you're getting a 3rd rd pick
for him.

Better chance that most GM's are asking for the pick.
They know Moore doesn't play regularly in the top
6 in Boston, he makes 2.7 M, why would they give Boston a 3rd?

I think most teams would be lucky if their 3rd round pick eventually became what John Moore currently is. And Moore is playing NOW rather than four years down the line.

But even if these things weren't true, you're arguing the difference between a third and a fourth. Okay, so a fourth instead. Doesn't really make that big a difference.

 

[ODAAT]

Great profession and well compensated, good for you.

Kreider over toffoli easily, but your going to anti up a lot more and there will be a lot more suitors for him. While Toffoli may just be the answer,but at nearly the cost.

My man is Craig Smith who rolls in around the toffoli value, but has more grit and can put the puck in the net.

think you and I are alone on the Smith train, I like him too friend, one of those guys who won`t have fans planning parade`s but a guy I envision fitting in seamlessly

 

[DKH]

I’m in the camp more doesn’t suck. Until I see who is traded, injury statuses, and KRUG contract I’m not purging anyone

 

[Blowfish]

I always hate the "off the ice" argument, though I don't know how often it's truly the reason a player isn't acquired. You can't tout how great your leadership is and then be worried about what one player will do. If one player is going to ruin the locker room, then it wasn't strong in the first place.

Like others have said, I think the issue is how he plays outside of the offensive zone. I understand that he doesn't fit what they're looking for, but I've always hated that reasoning. You build the system around the players, not the players around the system. It's the thing I like least about the current management group. They've got a type, and if you don't fit that, they're not interested in you. The problem becomes that there are certain holes in your team that can't be filled by the standard Bruins-type of player, so they'll never be filled.

he did skip out on his team to play in Russia. Don’t think that went over well with the organization that traded for him. I remember saying wtf

 

[TCB]

He is the #7/8 dman on Boston and #4 at LD.
2.7M for a #7/8 is a lousy position to be in trade
wise. You might find a GM to give you
a 4/5 round pick. Doubt you're getting a 3rd rd pick
for him.

Better chance that most GM's are asking for the pick.
They know Moore doesn't play regularly in the top
6 in Boston, he makes 2.7 M, why would they give Boston a 3rd?

Yeah OK.....

Defenseman are valuable, very valuable during the playoff, especially one that can skate like Moore and a 3rd pick isn't considered high given the age of drafting these kids now a days, its pretty much a crap-shoot rounds 3-7.

Add to that at the dealine players value increases as the clock ticks.

 

[JCRO]

I’m in the camp more doesn’t suck. Until I see who is traded, injury statuses, and KRUG contract I’m not purging anyone

Well said.

I don't get this notion that Moore sucks/isn't serviceable. He's a top 6 d man who can move the puck. I've actually been impressed with his play. And at this current day and age of the salary cap era, he's on a relatively friendly deal for what he brings IMO.

Sweeney has been burnt by lack of depth on the back end before. Right now he's loaded and it is a position of strength. But, as you mentioned, the unknowns of Krug, Chara and to a degree Gryz still linger so why are we looking to move Moore right now?

 

[TCB]

think you and I are alone on the Smith train, I like him too friend, one of those guys who won`t have fans planning parade`s but a guy I envision fitting in seamlessly

I've always liked his game, and like you said he slides in under the radar, but he could be all this team needs in their top six, then add some heaviness on the back-end or 4th line and then you can get the duck boats ready.

 

[compan]

I think at this stage, we give the Rangers and offer they cannot refuse. Kreider @ 50% retained straight up for Backes.

 

[ODAAT]

I've always liked his game, and like you said he slides in under the radar, but he could be all this team needs in their top six, then add some heaviness on the back-end or 4th line and then you can get the duck boats ready.

Reminds me a bit of Pevs, a guy who quietly does his job, won`t be putting a team on his back but a guy a coach can tap on the shoulder in most situations and not worry about him hurting the team. Can`t recall but I "think" he would be a rental as he will be a UFA at the end of the year but don`t quote me on that

 

[BTO]

Add Toffoli and call it a day.

- top line
- Heinen Krejci Toffoli
- DeBrusk Coyle Bjork
- 4th line

Here's an idea: get Toffoli here for the 31st (since, you know, Sweeney has the trade in his "back pocket") and see how things go. See if he gels, and then re-assess with an eye towards the TDL.

 

[Oates2Neely]

think you and I are alone on the Smith train, I like him too friend, one of those guys who won`t have fans planning parade`s but a guy I envision fitting in seamlessly

Count me in on Smith. He has that Erik Cole/ Mark Recchi ability around the crease. Precisely what these Bruins need IMO.

I like Palmeiri but he’s not as physical & he will cost a boatload considering NJ situation.

 

[BTO]

I am not a GM guy; there's a reason I'm getting a degree to become a librarian as opposed to running a sports team. But I DO know if I could have either in a trade i'd take Kreider over Toffoli. Just my thought. If you're gonna swing for one more chance at the cup, go with the guy that has almost reached 20 goals on the season.

Why not both? One for each side of Krejci?

 

[Oates2Neely]

Here's an idea; get Toffoli here for the 31st (since, you know, Sweeney has the trade in his "back pocket") and see how things go. See if he gels, and then re-assess with an eye towards the TDL.

Ideally yes. Cap however says no. I’m no capologist but I’m guessing if trigger is pulled on Toffoli then Toffoli is your guy. Don’t think cap space allows for a plan B

 

[Lobster57]

He is the #7/8 dman on Boston and #4 at LD.
2.7M for a #7/8 is a lousy position to be in trade
wise. You might find a GM to give you
a 4/5 round pick. Doubt you're getting a 3rd rd pick
for him.

Better chance that most GM's are asking for the pick.
They know Moore doesn't play regularly in the top
6 in Boston, he makes 2.7 M, why would they give Boston a 3rd?

because they need a legit NHL d-man, and Moore is that.

Just because he's 7/8 on the B's depth chart doesn't mean he is at that spot on every team. Not that'd be likely to trade with each other, but he'd be the 5th best D-man in TO and probably 4th in MTL

 

[the negotiator]

Long time Craig Smith fan

An under the radar choice...not flashy, not someone to lead you to the Cup but the type of solid support player every winning team needs

Not a Recchi impact, the Peverly comparison feels right

 

[JCRO]

Long time Craig Smith fan

An under the radar choice...not flashy, not someone to lead you to the Cup but the type of solid support player every winning team needs

Not a Recchi impact, the Peverly comparison feels right

Why do the Preds move him though?

They're a buyer/contender in my eyes. Regardless of where they are in the standings at the moment.

Very deep team with a lot of talent that just had a coaching change.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

think you and I are alone on the Smith train, I like him too friend, one of those guys who won`t have fans planning parade`s but a guy I envision fitting in seamlessly

I'm a third. Doesn't excite me necessarily, but I do see the fit. And could be a good under-the-radar target.

Problem for me, is that I'm not sure he's the right guy for Krejci's right. You’d have DeBrusk (North/South dangerous close) and Smith (ditto). Ideally you’d ice a shooter there.

 

[BTO]

Ideally yes. Cap however says no. I’m no capologist but I’m guessing if trigger is pulled on Toffoli then Toffoli is your guy. Don’t think cap space allows for a plan B

Well hopefully Boston does have a capologist!

You'd have to move both Heinen and Moore at least (I dunno if the plan was to keep Moore for the draft or not, but plans change). You'd still be short but you'd be closer.

Also depends on what the deal would be for Toffoli, and if you still have enough to get Kreider.

Then there's Miller . . . and Backes . . .

 

[ODAAT]

I'm a third. Doesn't excite me necessarily, but I do see the fit. And could be a good under-the-radar target.

Problem for me, is that I'm not sure he's the right guy for Krejci's right. You’d have DeBrusk (North/South dangerous close) and Smith (ditto). Ideally you’d ice a shooter there.

good point, right now, I`d just like to see DK given the same wingers for more than a few games allowing him to create some chemistry or at least for a sample size to see if that chemistry is there

Honestly was pleasantly surprised with how well the Heinen/DK/Kuhlman trio looked last night. That speed Kuhlman brings and Heinen and DK`s smarts just left Vegas lost in their own end. The game winner alone created by Kuhlman`s speed causing issues in front of the Knight`s net, then Heinen with a subtle play back to Carlo then boom, DK goal.

Smith would be a nice add, be nice to have a shooter there as you mentioned, just not sure who is realistically out there for the offering

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I'm a third. Doesn't excite me necessarily, but I do see the fit. And could be a good under-the-radar target.

Problem for me, is that I'm not sure he's the right guy for Krejci's right. You’d have DeBrusk (North/South dangerous close) and Smith (ditto). Ideally you’d ice a shooter there.

Krejci prefers smart players.

 

[TCB]

I'm a third. Doesn't excite me necessarily, but I do see the fit. And could be a good under-the-radar target.

Problem for me, is that I'm not sure he's the right guy for Krejci's right. You’d have DeBrusk (North/South dangerous close) and Smith (ditto). Ideally you’d ice a shooter there.

Hopefully Cassidy would leave DeBrusk with Coyle as those two seem to be a much better fit.