All Bruins rumors/proposals: Reset and Sweenified

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neelynugs

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Yup. Case in point: Matt Bartkowski. Fast skater, slow thinker. Slow decision maker, doesn't get the job done defensively or offensively.

bart always reminded me of forrest gump when he played for alabama. the coaches would just stare at him and say "he must be the stupidest sonofa***** alive"...."but he sure is fast!" of course bart never ran for a touchdown on every kickoff, but you get the point.
 

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Well, Oduya certainly isn't going back to the Hawks anymore. Just got Daley for Sharp. Not even a million in cap relief.
 

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Well, Oduya certainly isn't going back to the Hawks anymore. Just got Daley for Sharp. Not even a million in cap relief.

That can't be right or then Seabrook is going. Bickells' cap wouldn't save them.

Also they lost Johns whom their fans loved.
 

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Do you think that Sweeney is calling for Oudya?, we've been very interested in Oduyas' situation.

He is going to be cheaper than Franson.

I can't believe they gave up Johns :laugh:

Dallas fans are celebrating that they got rid of them :laugh: that's not exactly the asking price for Sharp that they had.

Edit: is this Doms' 8 a clock news :laugh: and at 11 we have Oduya?
 

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Marchand for Seabrook+ (Hope not) maybe Loui?
Koko+ for Sekac

They seem to be stil over the cap, Seabrook doesn't have a value like that right now and why would we give up elite pk guy for him and our 2nd only proven top6 winger?

They seemed to have saved just 1.8M(50% on Garbutt) with that trade and Sharp was their biggest cap dump to give up :laugh:

A miracle Bickell trade could give them only Oduya back and noone wants him, so call them Sweeney and rob Seabrook!
 

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Hmm. Daley in at Chicago?

Maybe they're moving Seabrook.

Moving Johns in a transaction for Daley, suggests they're going hard for another Cup (they want a D ready to play now), but maybe can't retain Seabrook for cap reasons.

Another Cup next year, we're in Dynasty territory.
 
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bart always reminded me of forrest gump when he played for alabama. the coaches would just stare at him and say "he must be the stupidest sonofa***** alive"...."but he sure is fast!" of course bart never ran for a touchdown on every kickoff, but you get the point.

:laugh:
 

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I don't think anyone saw that coming. Probably no teams willing to take on that cap hit of Sharp without sending money back. Still odd. Wouldn't even shock me if Dallas goes ahead and signed Oduya. I like what Nill is doing there.

Sweeney did get huge value for Lucic all things considered. Have to give him credit for that one.
 

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Do you think that Sweeney is calling for Oudya?, we've been very interested in Oduyas' situation.

He is going to be cheaper than Franson.

I can't believe they gave up Johns :laugh:

Dallas fans are celebrating that they got rid of them :laugh: that's not exactly the asking price for Sharp that they had.

Edit: is this Doms' 8 a clock news :laugh: and at 11 we have Oduya?

Boston top 4 likely has 2 rookies and 2 over 30 guys coming back from injuries

They just traded a 20 minute right shot offensive defenseman

It doesn't take Johnny Rocket to know that Cody Franson is a healthy 20 minute right shot offensive defenseman

He knows it's a match

Boston knows it's a match

He wants a specific dollar and term and Boston has a different amount

Whether it gets resolved or not this is by far my review of the best spot for him and team
 

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Hmm. Daley in at Chicago?

Maybe they're moving Seabrook.

Moving Johns in a transaction for Daley, suggests they're going hard for another Cup (they want a D ready to play now), but maybe can't retain Seabrook for cap reasons.

Another Cup next year, we're in Dynasty territory.

If Sweeney signs Franson and imo he should within reason he probably takes self out of Seabrook BUT if he goes with kids and Chicago falls out of it (and I think they do) Boston is sitting with money and prospects and would be a player

I'd rather get Franson for 4/18 and move on if they could
 

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Boston top 4 likely has 2 rookies and 2 over 30 guys coming back from injuries

They just traded a 20 minute right shot offensive defenseman

It doesn't take Johnny Rocket to know that Cody Franson is a healthy 20 minute right shot offensive defenseman

He knows it's a match

Boston knows it's a match

He wants a specific dollar and term and Boston has a different amount

Whether it gets resolved or not this is by far my review of the best spot for him and team

I just was wondering that how much does this Sharp trade change things, I've seen Boston interested in Oduya rumours and he can't wait anymore, he is out without Seabrook getting moved.

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x- Franson
Irwin/x- McQuaid
structure could work, have 3 tough to play against type of players on different pairings, players that will make you feel pain in the offensive zone, (our D-zone).

But I still couldn't go behind an idea that krug would be the only proven puck mover, well skating puck mover, to me that's everything against what Sweeney has been saying. So to me with that Trotman should be the 7th D.

But the Hawks messed their cap and without an miracle they can't keep Seabrook, they are just under the cap Kruger unsigned who they badly want back, one of the best bottom6 shutdown C's in his early prime. And after next season with very limited cap space they would have to re-sign Seabrook, Shaw-(Versteeg) and Anisimovs' new contract kicks in.
With Sharp gone they don't have better cap dumps than Seabrook. He will net value back and they have Pokka ready to step up.

But I trust and respect your opinions, do you see that Franson has JB potential, I loved JB and would love to have his replacement here. Not expecting him to be as good but with that cap hit he wouldn't have to be, he is younger, in his early prime which would be a great thing. How much could Boston's system/coaching help him?
 
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If Sweeney signs Franson and imo he should within reason he probably takes self out of Seabrook BUT if he goes with kids and Chicago falls out of it (and I think they do) Boston is sitting with money and prospects and would be a player

I'd rather get Franson for 4/18 and move on if they could

Sounds about right.

If they can get Franson for 4.5m / year, that's a pretty good deal.

I'd like for them to sign Franson this year, and go hard at Shattenkirk next year (and leave Seabrook).
 

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Dallas is pretty good at fleecing teams in trades.

Why would Chicago do that trade? Awful.

Seriously, though.

Only thing I can think of, is that they know the Cap is making it difficult to keep the core together, so they want to go hard for a Cup now, and don't have time to wait for Johns to develop.
 

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Every team has some bad signings -- but Carter and Brown is hard to knock-- Brown was key contributor to the first Cup win, led the team in scoring, and Carter the second, also among team leaders; and Carter has scored 25+ goals for them in three straight seasons, including the strike season. Sharp, Bickell and maybe even Crawford for Chicago but they also moved plenty of good goales and nickle and dimed Crawford, before finally settling on Crawford long term. But Crawford has won them Cups. So, there's that.

LA also made moves between their first and second Cups, moving a bunch of non-core players. They moved Dustin Penner, Rob Scuderi, Colin Fraser, Andrei Loktionov, Simon Gagne, not terrible players, but not core. They then had the cap flexibility to bring in Gaborik who played a key role in the 2013/14 Cup win.

By comparison, they move Penner, we lock in Chris Kelly to an overpaid contract. Oh, and we sign Simon Gagne last year, years after LA traded him.

I'm not sure if you're referring to me, but my big critique of the Boychuk trade is not necessarily that he was moved (though in hindsight, that was a bad decision with Seids' regression), but the fact that Chiarelli made zero moves over the entire summer to free up cap space, so we'd have the flexibility to retain Boychuk and start the season cap compliant, if the offers out there were not good, and instead move him at the deadline. Boychuk should have fetched a much, much, better return. Or, in the alternative, do not re-sign Seids and instead commit to long term to Boychuk before his trade became inevitable.

Re: Boychuk. Wasnt referring to you in particular. I think you have a fair view on it for sure, although I think that if you don't move Boychuk before the season, you don't move him at the deadline either because you are a borderline playoff team. If Comnolly works out was a good 2nd liner, was it all worth it in the end?

Difference in what the Bruins and Kings did was Voynov, Pearson, etc stepping up and the Bruns having Caron as their best pick in that time period.
 

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I swear to God, if this team trades Marchand... do we want NO ONE who can create their own offense?
 
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