Boston Bruins All Bruins Free Agent/Trade Rumours and Proposals III

[BruinDust]

If I remember correctly, you were one of the most vocal against trading Krug when I proposed it.

I'm not saying they should or I want him dealt.

But if they were to deal him, no way am I concerned with playing against him down the road against an in-conference team.

But I'd say that about the vast majority of players.

 

[compan]

As long as we're trading with Chiarelli, we have a fighting chance to give up very little and get a great return. Who is our Loui Eriksson, Joe Morrow, Reilly Smith and Matt Fraser that we can pawn off for a super star player in return?

 

[Oates2Neely]

Rask only took the Bruins to within 2 games of winning a Cup in 2013. With his #2 dman out, and his #1 center playing with a punctured lung. All while posting postseason stats that topped the mythical Tim Thomas playoff run in 2011.

Trading Krug is risky business. Gryzlek isn’t replacing his offense. Who slots into the top-4 with Krug gone?

It would have to be a homerun type player coming back in return. Jonathan Huberdeau would fill a need.

 

[BruinDust]

Rask only took the Bruins to within 2 games of winning a Cup in 2013. With his #2 dman out, and his #1 center playing with a punctured lung. All while posting postseason stats that topped the mythical Tim Thomas playoff run in 2011.

Trading Krug is risky business. Gryzlek isn’t replacing his offense. Who slots into the top-4 with Krug gone?

It would have to be a homerun type player coming back in return. Jonathan Huberdeau would fill a need.

A need for what?

The Bruins have plenty of left-shot LWers who can produce offense.

 

[Oates2Neely]

A need for what?

The Bruins have plenty of left-shot LWers who can produce offense.

I recall him playing RW. Maybe I’m wrong?

 

[BruinDust]

I recall him playing RW. Maybe I’m wrong?

And maybe he did. I can't recall seeing it but it's not like I watch a whole lot of Panther games.

 

[bbfan419]

6'3 215 pound 21 year old center drafted 6th overall...

I bet new jersey fans are going to love your take

I agree with GD4877 what does draft position and size have to do with it? He has not done anything yet in the NHL to suggest he is worth Krug, hence I offered the lighter Krug like version of Grizz. I am however not surprised you disagreed, most of the proposals I have seen you make heavily favour the other team, not a personal attack meant, just stating you seem to under value the Bruins own players and over value other teams players.

 

[Bergyesque]

I think the way you mitigate the "might be/could be's" is by having a lot of similar prospects vying for the same spots. Odds are, they're going to hit on one of Donato/Bjork, on one of JFK/Frederic/Studnicka, on one of Zboril/Vaak, etc...

I also think the league is driven by youth now. A team with a big group of young upstarts trying to prove themselves is going to have more energy and drive on a nightly basis than a team full of established vets. We've seen how veteran-laden teams get complacent. There's a lot to be said for the speed and enthusiasm kids bring to a lineup.

Not that I disagree with you here, but as far as the debate of "youth vs veteran" is concerned, why do we absolutely have to put a team chock-full of veterans against one full of youths?
Can't we just have a mix? Some youth (under 25) pushing forward, some players at their peak (25-30) producing and some veteran (over 30) showing the way.
The way I see it, most recent Cup winners relied mosty on vet or peak players, but were not afraid to use some youths in key positions.

 

[DKH]

Dylan Larkin Or Sean Couturier is the kind of return I would love to see. Would certainly add for Couturier. He is one of my favorite Players. I do not think he is available

There not I’m sure but Milt Pappas got traded for Frank Robinson, John Kordic for Russ Courtnall, Rick Middleton for Ken Hodge, and Rick Robey got Dennis Johnson

Anything possible

 

[LucicIsABeast]

If as a player you waive your NTC or NMC, is it effectively waived for the remainder of the contract?

 

[Salem13]

If as a player you waive your NTC or NMC, is it effectively waived for the remainder of the contract?

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/no-trade-clauses-and-getting-dealt.1708827/

The short of it seems to be yes but most insist otherwise?

 

[Mainehockey33]

Rask only took the Bruins to within 2 games of winning a Cup in 2013. With his #2 dman out, and his #1 center playing with a punctured lung. All while posting postseason stats that topped the mythical Tim Thomas playoff run in 2011.

Trading Krug is risky business. Gryzlek isn’t replacing his offense. Who slots into the top-4 with Krug gone?

It would have to be a homerun type player coming back in return. Jonathan Huberdeau would fill a need.

Why does Rask get all these excuses? That 2013 team was arguably better than the 2011 team. Boychuk, Seguin, Marchand were all more experienced. Krug and Hamilton both transformed the defense into a mobile unit. Rask had a great run that year no doubt, but it doesn’t touch Thomas’s Conn Smyth run.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Why does Rask get all these excuses? That 2013 team was arguably better than the 2011 team. Boychuk, Seguin, Marchand were all more experienced. Krug and Hamilton both transformed the defense into a mobile unit. Rask had a great run that year no doubt, but it doesn’t touch Thomas’s Conn Smyth run.

I don't see any excuses for Rask in his post at all. And beg to differ, Rask's stats were indeed better that Thomas', so they in fact DO touch that run.

 

[Mainehockey33]

I don't see any excuses for Rask in his post at all. And beg to differ, Rask's stats were indeed better that Thomas', so they in fact DO touch that run.

I’m not saying Rask wasn’t great during that run. Joe Thornton had a great run stat wise in 2016, better then Crosby, but Crosby was the MVP.

Agree to disagree.

 

[DKH]

If I remember correctly, you were one of the most vocal against trading Krug when I proposed it.

I was probably the most vocal - one of my top favorite Bruins of all-time. Just a high end offensive player and criminally underrated defensively (he’s at least average )

But you get back Larkin or Couturier or a Matt Barzal you have to do it

I’m in the HFL SIM and I’m picking 8th and have 2 more first rounders towards the end. So I’m reading all the draft pubs I can get my hands on about Defenseman, the stuff on line and have probably watched both drafts the one I get here and the Canadien presentation and INSANE how many sub 6 feet guys were drafted and how many times a comment on the draft show or written comparing a prospect to Krug.

Oh, and of course I have him on my SIM team one of first moves I made.

 

[DKH]

The Bruins are not trading Krug unless the guy coning in is either the better player (Werenski which is 0.0 %) or has a high upside - Hanifin.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Darnell Nurse isn’t interested in a long-term deal with the Edmonton Oilers

“They’ve sent us a proposal and we’ll see where that goes,” said Thun. “I don’t see with their cap space being what it is that they can entice us with much term.”

-Darnell Nurse’s agent Anton Thun

Time to put the squeeze on. I'll go longer term for Nurse.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Darnell Nurse isn’t interested in a long-term deal with the Edmonton Oilers


-Darnell Nurse’s agent Anton Thun

Time to put the squeeze on. I'll go longer term for Nurse.

Nurse is the type of defenseman that would be worth trading Krug for.

 

[McGarnagle]

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Nurse is the type of defenseman that would be worth trading Krug for.

Offer sheet him long term anywhere up to 6m and it costs a 1st and 3rd. Well worth it IMO. So either Chia takes a deal involving Krug, or we offsheet him. What Burke did to Chia with Kessel.

The big thing about people not liking OS' is you piss off another GM.

But in all honestly, how many years left does Chia have being a GM in this league?

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Darnell Nurse isn’t interested in a long-term deal with the Edmonton Oilers


-Darnell Nurse’s agent Anton Thun

Time to put the squeeze on. I'll go longer term for Nurse.

Anton, heck I knew him as a kid. We played soccer against each other. Meet him years later at a friends wedding in Toronto, he said then he was getting into representing players. Wish I was close to him maybe put a bug in his ear - go to Boston.

 

[Spooner st]

The problem with is. There's only one Peter Chiarelli out there but who knows maybe he will part with Draisaitl next.

What I mostly remember about Peter Chiarelli...
Binging a cup to Boston in 5 year.
After 39 years waiting for one.
But somehow people like to dump on the guy.
Don't know why they don't dump on all the other loser's that just screws teams and no cup.
There's lots of those to choose from.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Anton, heck I knew him as a kid. We played soccer against each other. Meet him years later at a friends wedding, he said then he was getting into representing players. Wish I was close to him maybe put a bug in his ear - go to Boston.

Pretty sure his group represents Bergeron iirc...

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Offer sheet him long term anywhere up to 6m and it costs a 1st and 3rd. Well worth it IMO. So either Chia takes a deal involving Krug, or we offsheet him. What Burke did to Chia with Kessel.

The big thing about people not liking OS' is you piss off another GM.

But in all honestly, how many years left does Chia have being a GM in this league?

This is actually a great point. You piss off Chiarelli....Big deal. If things keep going the way they're going, he is not long for a job. I'm going off memory right now, but was the last big RFA offer sheet the Weber one from Philadelphia? Nashville matched it, but Philly still did what is frowned upon. Did Nashville ever try and get Philadelphia back for it (something I see mentioned when someone says you can't OS an RFA, risk of it happening down the road).

Also, if you get your big-time RFA's locked up before they even reach July 1, there's never a situation where they could try and "get back at you". McAvoy would really be the only player. And honestly, if they want to offersheet a player like McAvoy, they're going to do it anyway (speaking in general terms).

If there is a potential for Nurse to be available because of money, I want Sweeney all over it. Nurse -- McAvoy top pairing? for 10+ years? Yes please.

 

[sarge88]

Nurse is the type of defenseman that would be worth trading Krug for.

Absolutely!

Given this new development, I'd hope Sweeney is at least kicking tires.