Rumor: All about Alex DeBrincat -possible trade

[jkutswings]

now if you poop 4 times a day at work? That's a lot more vacation time!

That's a pretty crappy vacation.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Let's go Stevie, get this over the finish line...

 

[Hammettf2b]

patiently waiting...

 

[jkutswings]

I actually read through the report that TSN referenced, which can be found here:

GARRIOCH: Dealing Alex DeBrincat remains top priority for Ottawa Senators

Though the talks with the Detroit Red Wings, DeBrincat's hometown team, have been on and off again throughout this process, there's talk those discussions have been revisited.

ottawasun.com

A couple of interesting lines (emphasis mine):

"While a lot of people are getting prepared to put up their feet to begin holidays, Senators general manager Pierre Dorion and the hockey operations staff continued to work the phones Wednesday to try to deal the two-time 40-goal scorer as soon as possible."

"The expectation is that if the Senators can find a way to get DeBrincat and his $9 million salary off the books for next season, Ottawa could sign unrestricted free agent winger Vladimir Tarasenko."


Now who knows how much is the team versus the author's opinion. But it's definitely written to portray that Ottawa is ready to move on and wants this done ASAP.

 

[Peter Tosh]

The wait reminds me of the time we where waiting for free agency and thought Suter and Parise would come. Hope this turns out differently

 

[Konnan511]

I was expecting @Konnan511 to show some love, but received none.

Goodness gracious, that is a beautiful avatar. Did you go to graphic design school, super shows!

 

[JediOrderPizza]

The wait reminds me of the time we where waiting for free agency and thought Suter and Parise would come. Hope this turns out differently

If we don't get him, it'll be the wings who decided not to do it. So a bit different at least.

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

The wait reminds me of the time we where waiting for free agency and thought Suter and Parise would come. Hope this turns out differently

Repressed memory unlocked.

 

[Ricelund]

Repressed memory unlocked.

 

[RRhoads]

The wait reminds me of the time we where waiting for free agency and thought Suter and Parise would come. Hope this turns out differently

Thankfully, they didn't at that price

 

[Bench]

Some of us remember that day.

Others wear that day on their username like a scarlet letter.

 

[jkutswings]

The wait reminds me of the time we where waiting for free agency and thought Suter and Parise would come. Hope this turns out differently

Staying calm... Just going to...put on a t-shirt and relax...

 

[FabricDetails]

Just opening the page is like 5% gone. How am I supposed to poop and post at work if the auto refresh and adds kill my phone battery so quick?!

(Clicks on thread while within the toilet stall also while next to another occupied stall)

(While sound is at max volume): "NEED A NEW HOME? GO TO TOTALLYNOTCROOKEDREALTOR.net..."

 

[SDWings]

My hope/guess is the delay on the trade is SY ironing out the new contract before the trade can be completed.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

Given the presumed sequence of events I posted on the main boards, I generally assume the following at this point:

Yzerman made an offer to OTT and I think it's underwhelming for OTT but Stevie was kind of "take it or leave it"

Debrincat and/or his agent has pretty much pushed out most of the other teams at this point; either by asking for an absurd contract extension, thereby drastically lower the trade offer to OTT as he would be a 1 year rental offer instead of an extended offer

Lastly, I think Yzerman refuses to match Larkin (8 for 70) in a contract offer is offering something shorter than that...like 6 for 50ish? And that's causing a major sticking point and this weird waiting game.

We are stuck now because:

For DBC, it's go to DET at less, or sign the 1yr arbitration with OTT and try again as a UFA to a higher cap FA next summer

For OTT, it's move DBC now, get an underwhelming return, get cap space to go after Tarsenko and remove the DBC distraction OR roll the dice and hope they can move him at the TDL for a late 1st as a pure rental and ride our a DBC for the next 8 months

I...don't think DET is debating anything at this point... and has an offer to OTT which is crap and contingent on a shorter term deal than DBC wanted, and has left it in their court

(all speculation, but feels like it fits the sequence of events up to this point and aligns to the wants and desires of the parties...and Yzerman's reputation as a negotiator)

 

[Detroit Knights]

(Clicks on thread while within the toilet stall also while next to another occupied stall)

(While sound is at max volume): "NEED A NEW HOME? GO TO TOTALLYNOTCROOKEDREALTOR.net..."

Sooo, you have some thoughts on realtors I see...yikes.

 

[Henkka]

Could see Yzerman getting DeBrincat for 7.65M and 7 years.

 

[izlez]

So I’m suddenly remembering a quote from Yzerman in the last few months that it’s not important to try to “win” every trade because it’s important to maintain trust and relationships with other GMs.

Just thinking that we maybe shouldn’t expect that much of a steal if this goes through, even if Ottawa finds themselves in a real tough spot.

Anyone know if he did say that or am I making it up?

 

[TheOctopusKid]

Could see Yzerman getting DeBrincat for 7.65M and 7 years.

I think it’ll be more money less term but 7 for 7.65 would be sexy too and I’m pretty sure HF rage would be significant

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

what will you change your name to now, Arthur

Sooo, you have some thoughts on realtors I see...yikes.

Naw, realtors aren’t the problem. It’s the f***in bullshit that the house prices have spiked a f***ing lot while at the same time the interest rate has consistently been yanked up.

f***in 3 bedroom ranches were 150k like four years ago and unless the mother f***ing thing is a foundational hazard, you’re not getting one under 240 in a remotely attractive area

 

[Hammettf2b]

what will you change your name to now, Arthur



Naw, realtors aren’t the problem. It’s the f***in bullshit that the house prices have spiked a f***ing lot while at the same time the interest rate has consistently been yanked up.

f***in 3 bedroom ranches were 150k like four years ago and unless the mother f***ing thing is a foundational hazard, you’re not getting one under 240 in a remotely attractive area

I'd kill for a 3 bedroom for 240k here in SoCal

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Given the presumed sequence of events I posted on the main boards, I generally assume the following at this point:

Yzerman made an offer to OTT and I think it's underwhelming for OTT but Stevie was kind of "take it or leave it"

Debrincat and/or his agent has pretty much pushed out most of the other teams at this point; either by asking for an absurd contract extension, thereby drastically lower the trade offer to OTT as he would be a 1 year rental offer instead of an extended offer

Lastly, I think Yzerman refuses to match Larkin (8 for 70) in a contract offer is offering something shorter than that...like 6 for 50ish? And that's causing a major sticking point and this weird waiting game.

We are stuck now because:

For DBC, it's go to DET at less, or sign the 1yr arbitration with OTT and try again as a UFA to a higher cap FA next summer

For OTT, it's move DBC now, get an underwhelming return, get cap space to go after Tarsenko and remove the DBC distraction OR roll the dice and hope they can move him at the TDL for a late 1st as a pure rental and ride our a DBC for the next 8 months

I...don't think DET is debating anything at this point... and has an offer to OTT which is crap and contingent on a shorter term deal than DBC wanted, and has left it in their court

(all speculation, but feels like it fits the sequence of events up to this point and aligns to the wants and desires of the parties...and Yzerman's reputation as a negotiator)

I don't think Yzerman would waste his time making a crap offer. I think what the holdup is, is Dorion.

He paid the 7th overall + 39th overall and a 2024 3rd for DeBrincat and expects similar value.

The problem is, why should anyone pay that value when Dorion isn't letting anyone negotiate with DeBrincat's agent? Also, DeBrincat DID have a down year in Ottawa, and it doesn't diminish his value much, but he also doesn't look like a guy worth a top 10 1st and top 10 2nd anymore.

If Detroit offered a lower 1st (reportedly the pick that NYI sent us) + a 2nd in a stronger draft but Dorion balked at that? That's his dumbass mistake. And if Detroit has offered Boston's 1st and Detroit's 2nd as an alternative and he didn't take it then? That's also Dorion's mistake. He's going to struggle to fill out the bottom half of his roster. DeBrincat eats up the rest of their space.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

I'd kill for a 3 bedroom for 240k here in SoCal

Well yes.

Those are also in somewhat dumpy neighborhoods in between the east and west side. In the nicer ones on the west side (Canton and westward). You’re looking at either way way more expensive or the like five options that all have active water leakage or previously tuck pointed walls that have cracked again

 

[opivy]

I'd kill for a 3 bedroom for 240k here in SoCal

In my part of Ohio a 2300sq ft 3br is going for 500k

 

[Hammettf2b]

In my part of Ohio a 2300sq ft 3br is going for 500k

i'd kill for that as well!