Rumor: All about Alex DeBrincat -possible trade

[TheOctopusKid]

I feel at this point the best I would generally feel about all of this is would be in terms of assets and term, would be:

Berggren + Red Savage level Prospect + Conditional 2nd (moves to 2024 1st if the Wings make the playoffs)

Debrincat signs for 6x 52M OR 7x 56M;

He can take more for less term for more money (6x8.5AAV) or get more security at more term less money (7x8AAV) but Meir money at 8x8.5AAV seems just too much given the circumstance.

We land somewhere in this sphere, I’m fine. OTT recoups some of the lost value of what they offered and we aren’t clutching the our pearls holding a 8.5M dollar 34 year old and can’t get out from underneath his deal if we absolutely had to

 

[RRhoads]

To include in a trade for a 30 goal scorer? Yes. We have a lot less ammo now.

I, for one, wouldn't include Danielson or ASP in a trade for Debrincat.

 

[jkutswings]

Here's some actually numbers:

Ottawa Senators' Alex DeBrincat eyeing Meier contract, with suitors offering less | TSN

As the NHL off-season continues, the Ottawa Senators are searching for a landing spot for winger Alex DeBrincat, who is unwilling to sign with the club long-term.

www.tsn.ca

"TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger said on the Ray and Dregs Podcast that the winger is looking for a contract similar to the one Timo Meier signed with the New Jersey Devils last week - eight years, $70.2 million, with an average annual value of $8.775 million. Dreger notes, however, that acquiring teams see DeBrincat's value as being close to Jesper Bratt, who inked an eight-year, $63 million contract with the Devils, carrying a cap hit of $7.875 million."

"If that’s holding up a trade, and it sounds like it might be, then it’s got to be up to Alex DeBrincat to reconsider or maybe he stays in Ottawa,” Dreger said."


If a trade has not happened by now, the player isn't going to win a game of hardball. The ideal situation for Detroit is to manage a trade for an even better scoring forward while Debrincat is dragging things out being greedy.

 

[Henkka]

Senators have 9.1M capspace with 17 contracts signed.

You re-sign Pinto for 1.5M and 7.6M DeBrincat (reduced QO from arbitrator), and the cap is full.

And that isn't a legal 18+2 = 20 player roster to start the season.

 

[raymond23]

The longer this goes the more likely I think we get him

 

[Henkka]

The longer this goes the more likely I think we get him

Yzerman will offer a 3rd rounder just before season start.

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

I just wanna see Larkin and Debrincat tearing it up together.

 

[datsyukfan]

Getting debrincat or a player like him makes the whole UFA strategy make a tun of sense. Team is missing a big time scorer. They have really good depth, good 2 way forwards, a decent D-core, and a solid group of goalies. You get a 35-40 goal scorer here and everyone starts to slot in where they are supposed to

 

[Ricelund]

The longer this goes the more likely I think we get him

I get that feeling too.

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

He'd be better suited on the NYI.

Detroit isn't at the spot to compete.

 

[Ricelund]

I wonder if DeBrincat wants to come to Detroit and Ottawa's using NYI to drive up the price.

 

[Artanis]

I think you have to get a 1st. Use that if you have to for a trade to bring in another player.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

I wonder if DeBrincat wants to come to Detroit and Ottawa's using NYI to drive up the price.

I think he wants Detroit #1.

Ottawa either is refusing to take a cap dump back, zadina or Fabbri, or SY is playing real hardball

 

[stillwater]

Islanders have less than 2M of cap remaining.

 

[NickH8]

I hope we can get it done for a reasonable price. DeBrincat alongside all these additions we just made makes us a playoff team imo.
DeBrincat - Larkin - Raymond
Kubalik - Copp - Perron
Fabbri - Compher - Sprong
Kostin - Rasmussen - Fischer
That's a playoff lineup.

 

[norrisnick]

I think he wants Detroit #1.

Ottawa either is refusing to take a cap dump back, zadina or Fabbri, or SY is playing real hardball

I get the sense that ADB wants Detroit a hell of a lot more than Yzerman wants ADB. And that Yzerman is not about to be bullied into overpaying for him twice. Once in trade and again in contract.

 

[GreatGordie9]

I hope we can get it done for a reasonable price. DeBrincat alongside all these additions we just made makes us a playoff team imo.
DeBrincat - Larkin - Raymond
Kubalik - Copp - Perron
Fabbri - Compher - Sprong
Kostin - Rasmussen - Fischer
That's a playoff lineup.

To become a playoff team will also need a stronger D.

 

[newfy]

I get the sense that ADB wants Detroit a hell of a lot more than Yzerman wants ADB. And that Yzerman is not about to be bullied into overpaying for him twice. Once in trade and again in contract.

Yeah and the Islanders have about a million in cap space right now. I'm sure they could move some stuff around to sign Debrincat, but they definitely dont seem like the ideal team to make a deal happen. Yzerman probably knows that and is refusing to get bent over

 

[Henkka]

I get the sense that ADB wants Detroit a hell of a lot more than Yzerman wants ADB. And that Yzerman is not about to be bullied into overpaying for him twice. Once in trade and again in contract.

I would rather overpay in a trade, because contract structure is more important. But why not waiting for a year.... and get him free.

Waiting for a year could cause him another 27-30 goal season, which would automaticly put those salary demands down. The agent lives too much on Chicago-era production days with Kane.

 

[Winger98]

I would rather overpay in a trade, because contract structure is more important. But why not waiting for a year.... and get him free.

Waiting for a year could cause him another 27-30 goal season, which would automaticly put those salary demands down. The agent lives too much on Chicago-era production days with Kane.

well, for one, I don't think a 30 goal seaso lwers his asking price all that much. You're still looking at $8m, give or take $500k. And that's if the cap stays stagnant again. Cap goes up that ask goes up, and more teams will have space to pay it.

You trade for him now to eliminate other teams from mucking up the negotiations and you sign him to a fair deal because you trust your people to have scouted him and correctly guessed at what he'll do here.

 

[Hoog]

Again, the trade would be made if the cats agent wasn't holding on to the term and price of the contract extension. No way Steve is over paying for him. If he would do a 2-3 year at $8m, its a done deal. If his agent was snart and sees the salary cap going up then he would do the deal.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

I think he will be more expensive at free agency, with the cap rise and if he has a big bounce back season.

I get not wanting to overpay but is one million really gonna be the reason you don't add a goal scorer?

 

[stillwater]

If you wait for free agency, every team in the league can negotiate a contract with him.

If you trade for him now, only one team can ... Detroit.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

That is why Yzerman doesn't want them. He said in one of those press conference at the end of the year that he doesn't like 8 year contracts because towards the tail end of the contract you aren't getting what you originally paid for. He wants to give 8 year contracts to core players (which is 26/27 and younger because of Larkin's age).

Since Debrincat is not a player that has been in our system and he doesn't know him at all, that is the moreso the hesitation because he fits the age of our core.

Of course he doesn't want to give them out. No one wants to. The problem is that you are forced to if you really want or want to retain the player. Very few good offensive players become available. If you want to find fault with every one of them, we just won't be able to improve from outside of the organization.