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Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière

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Shesterkybomb said:
Ive always prefered it too, not everyone can get comfortable in their own end with it though. It just gives you so many more options for shooting, your stick is in the center of the ice in a better shooting position instead of towards the wall, and ive always like that you could cut center and either shoot or fake the shot and go outside.
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You are right it is different in your own end but I actually prefer it in both ends of the ice.
 
NickyFotiu said:
There are so many benefits to playing on your off wing on offense. I have always wished Laf could figure that out. I'm a right handed shot that only wants to play LW. I guess some people would call me like Panarin in that regard. I would not say that but that is because I'm very humble. :D
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I'm a beer leaguer and because we play for fun I'm a RD that's a lefty shot. It's awesome. What's not awesome is corralling pucks being rung around the boards on my backhand, which is why I understand the D-men will play the side of their handiness, but man they were off-wing and could get pucks through via the middle, it would be great.
 
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ReddestRum said:
I'm a beer leaguer and because we play for fun I'm a RD that's a lefty shot. It's awesome. What's not awesome is corralling pucks being rung around the boards on my backhand, which is why I understand the D-men will play the side of their handiness, but man they were off-wing and could get pucks through via the middle, it would be great.
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But as an offwing you can face the dman on your forehand if you choose when they pass up the boards then just deflect it out or use your backhand to pass it to center/out
 
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HockeyBasedNYC said:
not every athlete is going to blow up with a physique like a Jordan Staal or Chris Kreider. In fact, I think we'll wind up seeing Laf and Kakko both fill out pretty well. Chytil is not skinny. He put on some muscle last season and i'd expect him to fill out even more, since hes only 23.

In regards to some of the other players mentioned, we've been down this road. With all of the cardio a hockey player does the muscle strength doesn't always translate into big burly man muscle. Im sure 75% of the Cup winning Vegas team doesnt look like Jordan Staal.

In fact if you train too hard, eat too much and gain too much weight it could actually have the opposite effect on one's mobility and quickness which is needed in todays game. Jordan Staal plays a heavy game so its ok for him to put on some poundage. Kreider is a freak of nature and has it all. Genetics...

Strength training and sport specific exercise plans will yield success on the ice but not necessarily in the mirror - although on the surface questions about Fox and Mika may have some merit to them.

Either way, to me that's more of a Drury roster decision than something an individual like them can really change. Fox isn't your every day player, especially as a defenseman. He's won a Norris and came in 2nd in voting this season so why question the guys physique? Mika, maybe he could gain some muscle mass, but its more mental with him if you ask me. The guy dominates in all areas when he is on.
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I get what your saying, but the guys I singled out don't even measure up to soccer players.
This team has a problem playing a full 60 minutes. They are constantly getting outworked and out muscled. Never mentioned Kakko btw. Chytil had the upper body of a typical emo teenager until this season. He's been to 6 training camps. He' still looks under developed to me. Laffreniere has the tools to be extremely hard to play against. Unfortunately, it's obvious he hasn't done jack sh*t in the off season. He's gained 2 lbs since his draft year, sad. Kravstov"enough said." Fox and Mikka are elite talents. Both have a habit of playing smaller against physical specimens.
Shouldn't come as surprise , but one of the few guy's who's jacked on the team was on Carolina last year.
 
NickyFotiu said:
I have never seen a picture of him without equipment on so I can not say he is fat. I just want him to get in top condition to give himself and us a better chance.
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You can also be a little pudgy but have the strength on your frame. There are plenty of guy that have played (some at very high levels) that were not cut. Obviously loosing the pudge helps increase performance more. Laffy just doesn't seem to have the power or explosiveness needed to stand out at this point. PLEASE COMMIT TO THE GYM
 
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bleedblue94 said:
You can also be a little pudgy but have the strength on your frame. There are plenty of guy that have played (some at very high levels) that were not cut. Obviously loosing the pudge helps increase performance more. Laffy just doesn't seem to have the power or explosiveness needed to stand out at this point. PLEASE COMMIT TO THE GYM
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Ive played when I was out of shape. Its obviously possible but being in shape makes a huge difference. Laf is a young professional going in to his 4th season. No excuse not to get in to the best shape of his life before this season.
 
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how about everyone in the "bust" camp starts shilling for Laf and everyone in the "it's too early" camp starts calling him a bust
it's so crazy that it just might work
 
NickyFotiu said:
Ive played when I was out of shape. Its obviously possible but being in shape makes a huge difference. Laf is a young professional going in to his 4th season. No excuse not to get in to the best shape of his life before this season.
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I agree, I'm saying though that just looking at him doesn't mean you you can tell what shape he is in, watching him play shows his body isn't developing at the rate most young NHL players do. I'm actually agreeing with you. I think he's physically underdeveloped (his own fault) and his stamina hasn't been developed (also his fault)
 
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bleedblue94 said:
I agree, I'm saying though that just looking at him doesn't mean you you can tell what shape he is in, watching him play shows his body isn't developing at the rate most young NHL players do. I'm actually agreeing with you. I think he's physically underdeveloped (his own fault) and his stamina hasn't been developed (also his fault)
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Yeah I cant see what kind of shape he is in just looking at him. Sometimes guys with lower body fat do not have the highest motor anyway. I just want Laf to give himself a chance to be the best he can be as a pro. I don't think he did that last season. He should speak to Gary Roberts about offseason conditioning.
 
Two league sources said that Drury has been quietly shopping Alexis Lafrenière, who is a restricted free agent. Unless there’s a way to get some value back, this one seems likely to end with Lafrenière remaining a Ranger on a short-term deal for his second contract. A former No. 1 pick who’s 21 and hasn’t been given a real shot at top-six/power-play minutes would be attractive to some teams but not at any real cost. Something to watch at the very least.
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What we're hearing about the Rangers heading into free agency

The latest on Barclay Goodrow (no buyout), Alexis Lafrenière (no longer available), Jonathan Quick (will become official today) and more.
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For the optimists in the group, here are a couple of players through ages 21 and 23 (first 3 seasons)

Games Goals Assists Points

Age 21 2OA

75 20 14 34
79 9 23 32
79 14 17 31

Age 23 14 OA

47 22 18 40
77 24 26 50
72 20 22 42

Who?












Daniel Sedin and Rick Middleton
 
I’m disappointed with his play for sure, but I’ll be even more disappointed if we cut bait for spare parts. That blurb even says he never really got real top six or PP time. Why sell low?

Especially with a new coach! Ride it out.
 
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mas0764 said:
Can’t believe the idiot is shopping Lafreniere but won’t move out Goodrow.
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A good GM should look to find out the market value of most his plaers especially restricted free agents in the offseason. Doesn't mean any trades will happen. I would look to find out if there is a market for Goody as well. Few players are untouchable.
 
Think moving Lafreniere might be the best way to try to solve the D issue. Not a lot of great moves out there, but would think about moving him (not necessarily 1 for 1) for Brannstrom, or maybe a guy like Kylington
 
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NickyFotiu said:
Yeah I cant see what kind of shape he is in just looking at him. Sometimes guys with lower body fat do not have the highest motor anyway. I just want Laf to give himself a chance to be the best he can be as a pro. I don't think he did that last season. He should speak to Gary Roberts about offseason conditioning.
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Ryan strome looked like a 12 year old boy with his shirt off ha
 
UnSandvich said:
I mean, they'd f***ing better be. If Drury has thought about moving Laf to keep Goodrow for more than half a second, he really should be fired.
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I mean maybe he wants to staple Laf to Goodrow to move that contract out? No idea why they didn’t just buyout unless they are trying to save buyout for someone bigger next summer or something
 
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I mean, they'd f***ing better be. If Drury has thought about moving Laf to keep Goodrow for more than half a second, he really should be fired.
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I think you are connecting too many dots. If we traded Laf (unlikely) it would be because we did not have faith in him and got a great offer. It would not be to keep Goody. Goody will probably be moved but its harder to get value in July then it would be at the trade deadline.
 
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