Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière

[NYRangers0723]

The problem around here has always been expectations. He he become a superstar? No but he is still a young player figuring it out. I understand he was the 1O pick but you can’t go overboard and label him a bust or want to get rid of him

 

[bl02]

I would look for similar value to what Dach got from Montreal, maybe slightly more since Lafreniere has been better over their 1st 3 seasons. A pick in the 10-15 range.

Also this is a better draft (at least from what most say who knows) so middle to 20's may be more along the lines of what Dach got.

 

[bhamill]

I would look for similar value to what Dach got from Montreal, maybe slightly more since Lafreniere has been better over their 1st 3 seasons. A pick in the 10-15 range.

I'm not in a "Laf is untouchable" mindset. A pick in the 10 range THIS year may actually net you a better player... or Laf may take off and the pick never make it... It's certainly a gamble.

 

[zlev]

eh he somehow had a 62 corsi and a 72 xGF% last night while the rest of the team was getting absolutely slaughtered, so that's not nothing. it never translates into actual production, but it's not nothing. at least he was moving the puck to the opposing end of the ice, which cant be said for most of the rest of the team.

looking at the analytics for the series as a whole is kinda funny. the guys with the best metrics are Kakko, Lafreniere and Fox. maybe these kids really do just need a different coach.

 

[bhamill]

eh he somehow had a 62 corsi and a 72 xGF% last night while the rest of the team was getting absolutely slaughtered, so that's not nothing. it never translates into actual production, but it's not nothing. at least he was moving the puck to the opposing end of the ice, which cant be said for most of the rest of the team.

No excuses for his lack of scoring, but the rest of his play was pretty good. Especially compared to team performance.

 

[Foxy]

The 2 on 1 with Trocheck at the start of the second was it for me. It's a clear 2 on 1, the defender is 100% committed to the pass giving Laf a lane to the net, and Laf decides to stop staking above the circle, telegraph that he's shooting, and takes a wrister right into schmids glove. Just pathetic. Show some drive, keep your feet moving, make a play. Do something. Just really disappointing.

 

[LORDE]

I'm not in a "Laf is untouchable" mindset. A pick in the 10 range THIS year may actually net you a better player... or Laf may take off and the pick never make it... It's certainly a gamble.

If someone would give us a top-10 pick this draft for him I take and laugh all the way to the bank

 

[bhamill]

If someone would give us a top-10 pick this draft for him I take and laugh all the way to the bank

Well I meant 10-12, but still. Honestly, I LIKE Laf, and I would do it.

 

[qwertyaas]

I'm not in a "Laf is untouchable" mindset. A pick in the 10 range THIS year may actually net you a better player... or Laf may take off and the pick never make it... It's certainly a gamble.

You sure about that, if the Rangers are doing the picking?

 

[Brutananadilewski]

If someone would give us a top-10 pick this draft for him I take and laugh all the way to the bank

We can still build around him. What are his positives?

Can he say his name without choking on his own spit? Can he lace his own skates?

Build off of that!

 

[Rangers in 7]

The 2 on 1 with Trocheck at the start of the second was it for me. It's a clear 2 on 1, the defender is 100% committed to the pass giving Laf a lane to the net, and Laf decides to stop staking above the circle, telegraph that he's shooting, and takes a wrister right into schmids glove. Just pathetic. Show some drive, keep your feet moving, make a play. Do something. Just really disappointing.

lol at least he got a shot off

10 seconds into the game zibs has a 2 on 1 and doesnt even get a shot

but yeah laf sucks ass, zibs get a pass because f*** idk why....

 

[bhamill]

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You sure about that, if the Rangers are doing the picking?

hahahaha

 

[LORDE]

lol at least he got a shot off

10 seconds into the game zibs has a 2 on 1 and doesnt even get a shot

but yeah laf sucks ass, zibs get a pass because f*** idk why....

Zbad gets “a pass” as you put it because he is elite at some things & Laf won’t be close to elite at anything

Zibs shot ALONE is worth 5 Lafs

 

[bhamill]

Zbad gets “a pass” as you put it because he is elite at some things & Laf won’t be close to elite at anything

Zibs shot ALONE is worth 5 Lafs

See, I don't get this mindset. Zibs gets a pass? His failure is a lot more responsible for this collapse than Laf's failure... Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on Mika, but as far as who was MORE disappointing in this series? It's not even close IMO.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Zbad gets “a pass” as you put it because he is elite at some things & Laf won’t be close to elite at anything

Zibs shot ALONE is worth 5 Lafs

for reference, zibanejad was drafted 6th overall and his age 21 season had a whopping 46 points

you point to his shot and its great and the fact that he is elite at things, which is awesome

but he just played a 7 game series as one of the leaders of this team and had 1 f***ing goal.....1 goal

he had the same opportunity as laf in the first 10 seconds of the game and didnt use that elite shot of his

again did laf suck this playoffs? yes. did our top offensive stars also suck just as much? yes

 

[McRanger92]

It's all fun and games until Drury trades Lafreniere for Conor Garland or Josh Anderson. I'd love to see the reactions here when that happens, because its 10x more likely outcome than us trading him for another draft pick

 

[bhamill]

It's all fun and games until Drury trades Lafreniere for Conor Garland or Josh Anderson. I'd love to see the reactions here when that happens, because its 10x more likely outcome than us trading him for another draft pick

Getting value will be a problem. Selling low is a panic move.

 

[romba]

The 2 on 1 with Trocheck at the start of the second was it for me. It's a clear 2 on 1, the defender is 100% committed to the pass giving Laf a lane to the net, and Laf decides to stop staking above the circle, telegraph that he's shooting, and takes a wrister right into schmids glove. Just pathetic. Show some drive, keep your feet moving, make a play. Do something. Just really disappointing.

He's a big shot telegrapher. No subtlety looking off the goalie or the like. The quicker you skate, the more added speed to the shot. Instead he slows down hoping for a passing lane, then is forced to shoot into a square goalie with no speed. Sometimes it feels he's still got that juniors mentality of being able to beat the goalie clean with a shot. It almost always takes more for 85% of NHLers of which is he is currently included in. Kakko can learn to do that too, though he's got a better release than Laf which helps hide his intents better.

Chytil though was the real disappointment. Thought he'd take that next step after looking really good at times this year and during last year's playoffs.

 

[RangersFan1994]

The problem around here has always been expectations. He he become a superstar? No but he is still a young player figuring it out. I understand he was the 1O pick but you can’t go overboard and label him a bust or want to get rid of him

Most 1st overall drafted players usually get 20 min 1st line ice time a night on bad teams while Laf have not earned it, the coach did not give him ice time he needed to succeed due to being a playoff teams and vets come first here .

 

[Greschner4]

Even his junior video mix tape isn't really that impressive.

 

[Chytilmania]

Was with a friend last weekend who works with hockey kids and a few NHL players and he did the preseason body fat % testing with the Rangers. Said Laf showed up 24% and was fat. Panarin doesn’t train in the offseason. Fox doesn’t train in the offseason. These guys don’t have the guts to last a full season.

 

[Foxy]

lol at least he got a shot off

10 seconds into the game zibs has a 2 on 1 and doesnt even get a shot

but yeah laf sucks ass, zibs get a pass because f*** idk why....

Lol yeah I agree. Zibs sucked this series too. But to me, Zibs 2 on 1 was a bit more forced, he was much further outside, with a diving defender, maybe he should of shot, but still feels like an easy save. I wanted Laf to try something like Mika did. Use some skill to try and create a very high danger scoring chance. It might not of worked, but not many clean wristers from above the hash go in these days.

 

[romba]

Was with a friend last weekend who works with hockey kids and a few NHL players and he did the preseason body fat % testing with the Rangers. Said Laf showed up 24% and was fat. Panarin doesn’t train in the offseason. Fox doesn’t train in the offseason. These guys don’t have the guts to last a full season.

I thought Fox's face looked a little round in the pressbox before the season began. It's like the 70's for some guys in Rangersland using the preseason to get into shape between cigarettes, instead of coming in at peak condition and working on skating and timing instead like I'm sure Kreider, Zbad and Miller probably do. Fox has slowed down at the end of the season a few times now, sometimes injuries or whatever, but coming in to camp out of shape aint helping matters.

 

[Trxjw]

Zbad gets “a pass” as you put it because he is elite at some things & Laf won’t be close to elite at anything

Zibs shot ALONE is worth 5 Lafs

Could he try being elite at showing up in big games? That would be really helpful.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Lol yeah I agree. Zibs sucked this series too. But to me, Zibs 2 on 1 was a bit more forced, he was much further outside, with a diving defender, maybe he should of shot, but still feels like an easy save. I wanted Laf to try something like Mika did. Use some skill to try and create a very high danger scoring chance. It might not of worked, but not many clean wristers from above the hash go in these days.

mika put himself in a bad position, its inexcusable to not even get a shot on net

if laf had tried something and not gotten a shot off this board would have went into total meltdown