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Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière

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So I was murdering Daniel Jones the first 3/4 of his career and today I am licking a big fat plate of crow.

Just goes to show how as sure as you are about a young player, it could turn out different, very different than the here and now. Development takes many different routes. Im not saying Laf is on the same trajectory or the same kind of personality. Its apples and oranges.

But what is the same is you have a young talented player drafted in a very high spot who has underwhelmed early in his career. Things can change and surprise. Lets hope its the same with Laf.
 
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mas0764 said:
This core can't win without Kakko and Laf becoming stars, and the org has failed to properly develop them into such stars. The GM should stop deluding himself and the fans.
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Too many fans here think lack of development or just lack of overall hockey production is the Rangers fault. Kakko and Laf have been playing where they should have been all along. They weren't world beaters against third line competition and there not going to be better against the top lines in the league

Its not like they have been point per game players like they should have been considering they were the selected #1 and #2 picks in the draft.
They are no better and in most cases worse that the third lines they have been playing against.

The Rangers were unlucky that they had these high picks when there was no roster changing players available at that pick. Laf is borderline bust and Kakko is OK at best.
 
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DanielBrassard said:
He's made numerous posts with more than one example, you just have to read them.
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My apologies to him for not seeing/reading every post of his on here, without sarcasm, but I’m only checking back here sporadically as I go about real life. This board isnt all consuming to me and probably not to most of us. I see when I'm mentioned in a post or replied to because of notification, but I’m sure I miss plenty of other discourse.

Pawnee Rangers said:
Also, I don’t think he’s a bust or has not shot at living up to his draft pedigree. And to be fair he does a lot of subtle, little things the really good players do. I think what he needs more than PP time is to put in the hard work in the off-season. He should spend the summer working out with Kreider and improving his skating. It worked for Kakko, it can work for him too.
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Totally agree. I’ve expressed this sentiment as well, I think they are all part and parcel of quicker development.
 
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mas0764 said:
It’s not reasonable that this team is trying to win without two more star forwards. It doesn’t have enough talent. Kakko and Laf were to be it.
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This team has a lot of high end talent. If kakko/chytil/Laf/kravstov can develop into 50-60 point players we’d compete for a cup regularly
 
I don't care what the official (trash) NHL stats say - he is a turnover machine. Two already tonight and that last one nearly lead to a goal after he turned it over at the red line.
 
Biggest contribution so far tonight was taking a horrendous penalty in the offensive zone that put the teams to 4 on 4. Textbook example of addition by subtraction.
 
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Synergy27 said:
I don’t have too much heartburn with anything that you are saying, but I think our main area of disagreement is the evaluation of Zibanejad. I think he is an elite player in the game, just a notch below the generational types of which there are only like 3-5 in the league.
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Yeah, I don’t agree and I don’t think much of the rest of the NHL outside a Rangers board would either.
 
Lgrsean said:
This team has a lot of high end talent. If kakko/chytil/Laf/kravstov can develop into 50-60 point players we’d compete for a cup regularly
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But they haven’t. And thus we can’t.

If it takes 2-3 more years Panarin and Kreider and maybe even Zibanejad will no longer be high end either.

As for Lafreniere he is struggling right now for sure. There’s no need to nitpick every little thing he does wrong during a cold spell.
 
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At this point, it's almost sad to see him struggling while everyone else around him is making some insane gains. He just needs to shoot it. Screw the fancy passes. Just shoot. SHOOT.
 
mas0764 said:
But they haven’t. And thus we can’t.

If it takes 2-3 more years Panarin and Kreider and maybe even Zibanejad will no longer be high end either.

As for Lafreniere he is struggling right now for sure. There’s no need to nitpick every little thing he does wrong during a cold spell.
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I think kakko and chytil get 50 points this year. Next year the 4 combine for over 200 points.

There’s no way of knowing if they would have developed quicker if the rangers handled them differently. But hopefully they have 2 deep playoff runs under their belts going into next year and that experience will definitely help them.
 
haohmaru said:
He might be the most frustrating Ranger I've watched since Kovalev or Zherdev - but at least they had flashes of innate and elite skill/talent. He routinely makes lazy choices and the team has to clean up his mess.
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When Kovy was on, he was exhilarating to watch. I feel like Kravtsov will follow in his steps. Hopefully at least from a production standpoint.
 
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