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Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière

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bigdog16 said:
Also these guys are so used to being “the man” at the junior level or whatever level they were playing prior. Its an adjustment.

Laf has never faced adversity until he played pro hockey. Is there a solution to a player overcoming adversity? Sometimes watching from the stands is good for players. It gives them a different view of the game.

But at the end of the day its up to the player
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Of course- and that’s why Laf has developed some terrible tendencies. He’s gotten away with them because he’s been far more talented than everyone else. Unfortunately, he’s not that much better than anyone right now and his grit and resolve are now being tested. Look I don’t know the guy and im not gonna throw him under the bus but if he had grit or resolve we’d see some of it by now. This is not the first time this coaching staff has pulled this move and yet- here we are again “hoping” it sparks him.

The NHL is a result oriented league. Laf needs to prove he’s worth the roster spot.
 
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Lafrenniere hasn’t had one great goal
Lafrenniere hasn’t has one great game
Lafrenniere hasn’t had one great fight
Lafrenniere hasn’t had one great hit

As a professional

This is on him - it’s long overdue- his career is in jeopardy and his value is dog shit.

You may get Montreal to bite - Arizona bout it …

We got ourselves a genuine Lemon

He’ll join the names of brendl lundmark
Klouckek cerneski Jessimen Montoya sanguinetti …

He’s done - there’s no getting better - this is who he is …

I was hoping maybe he’d be our Josh Bailey …

Zero chance

This guy sucks balls
 
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I'm curious. Just how much do you guys think we should be paying Laf in the off-season and how many years we give him? I guess we'll have some cash since we're going to have like 6 RFAs and 4 UFAs.
 
NikC said:
sure... and Kravstov sucks, Kaapo sucks (hes great now :rolleyes:), Chytil sucks, Gauthier sucks, Lias Andersson sucked, Lindqvist, Zach Jones... Next will be Othmann, Cuylle...

A 5yr rebuild, and they bring in coach that rides his 5 veteran players every night... because they need to "win"

It's time to realize this organization isn't very good a drafting and developing talent, they have no gameplan in how to construct a SC winning team.
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Coaches try to win.

If they don't win, they're shown the door.
 
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JHS said:
Of course- and that’s why Laf has developed some terrible tendencies. He’s gotten away with them because he’s been far more talented than everyone else. Unfortunately, he’s not that much better than anyone right now and his grit and resolve are now being tested. Look I don’t know the guy and im not gonna throw him under the bus but if he had grit or resolve we’d see some of it by now. This is not the first time this coaching staff has pulled this move and yet- here we are again “hoping” it sparks him.

The NHL is a result oriented league. Laf needs to prove he’s worth the roster spot.
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The Rangers coaching staff has done this way too many times.....bad scouting?
 
They will fire Gallant before they trade Laffy. He was already on notice, and likely won't be back next season unless they go on a deep run. If he still struggles with a new coaching staff then he officially doesn't deserve to be here so i'll have personally made my peace with it.
 
GENESISPuck94 said:
Zibanejad has 3 more EV points.
Trocheck has less EV points.
Kreider has the same EV points.

The ONLY difference between these guys and Laf is the PP1 time and ATOI overall.

Gallant is a flat headed smooth brained dipshit.
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Don’t bother, people on here will now say his goals aren’t flashy enough or they don’t see flashes of brilliance. The goal posts continue to move
 
mjolnir said:
The Rangers coaching staff has done this way too many times.....bad scouting?
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No- Laf was number 1 ranked by everyone. You are suggesting every NHL team has bad scouting.

My point is, Laf has got to show he’s worth the ice time. It’s long overdue. He’s had 3 seasons to get it together and he’s still basically floating all around the ice showing almost nothing!
 
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JHS said:
No- Laf was number 1 ranked by everyone. You are suggesting every NHL team has bad scouting.

My point is, Laf has got to show he’s worth the ice time. It’s long overdue. He’s had 3 seasons to get it together and he’s still basically floating all around the ice showing almost nothing!
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No -- I'm suggesting the Rangers have bad scouting.
 
Rangers in 7 said:
Don’t bother, people on here will now say his goals aren’t flashy enough or they don’t see flashes of brilliance. The goal posts continue to move
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No one is moving goalposts, most fans just want Laf to have an identity. Something that he does well to help contribute to the team, and I don't know what Laf does well. Is he a leader? Is he just support? Does he drive the play? Is he a two-way? Is he a guy that can keep the play alive? SOMETHING. Lol.

To me he's just.. there. No one is asking him to put up 60 points. Most just want him to just stand out. Whether he's playing 20 mins a game or 13.
 
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No -- I'm suggesting the Rangers have bad scouting.
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How? If every organization agreed Laf was a number one pick, how could the Rangers scouting be “bad.” They agreed with every other team.

Laf’s pick is not on the scouting. In my opinion it falls squarely on Laf.
 
ReddestRum said:
No one is moving goalposts, most fans just want Laf to have an identity. Something that he does well to help contribute to the team, and I don't know what Laf does well. Is he a leader? Is he just support? Does he drive the play? Is he a two-way? Is he a guy that can keep the play alive? SOMETHING. Lol.

To me he's just.. there. No one is asking him to put up 60 points. Most just want him to just stand out. Whether he's playing 20 mins a game or 13.
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I can tell you from personal experience when you get stapled to the bench for long stretches and don’t ever see time on the PP it affects your game. You get in your own head. I have agreed that I want MUCH more from him but the best way for him to reach the next step is to play. I pray to god the rangers don’t cut the cord here because he will be successful elsewhere. Laf was miles ahead of stutzle in many regards at the junior level. It’s there but he needs to be put into positions to succeed.
 
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Rangers in 7 said:
I can tell you from personal experience when you get stapled to the bench for long stretches and don’t ever see time on the PP it affects your game. You get in your own head. I have agreed that I want MUCH more from him but the best way for him to reach the next step is to play. I pray to god the rangers don’t cut the cord here because he will be successful elsewhere. Laf was miles ahead of stutzle in many regards at the junior level. It’s there but he needs to be put into positions to succeed.
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I agree, its like a racehorse, you give him too much time off and he can't run anymore
 
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Loki Dog 74 said:
I agree with everything you’re saying but they hardly look like “future stars”. They’re starting to look like more than replacement level top nine players with potential for more. I think it’s fairly far fetched to think either has true “star” potential at this point.
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Kakko is a bust for # 2 overall. Chytil is fine for where he was drafted. Laf should be on waivers.
 
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