Player Discussion Alex Newhook

[montreal]

He’s on pace for 50+ on a team that is not an offense firepower. Good add

we'll see since he just went 13 games without a goal so hard to say how many points he'll get this early if he's a streaky player.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

we'll see since he just went 13 games without a goal so hard to say how many points he'll get this early if he's a streaky player.

Is he streaky or does he put up points when he plays with decent linemates?

 

[montreal]

Is he streaky or does he put up points when he plays with decent linemates?

I guess we'll find out in the coming months. Like I said, I haven't watched him since he was in the NCAA but we paid a high price so be better be worth it. I know he's got the speed for sure but I don't know what happened to him that the Avs were ready to give up on him.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I think he’s a decent 2nd line winger. He needs to stay away from Anderson too.

 

[26Mats]

I guess we'll find out in the coming months. Like I said, I haven't watched him since he was in the NCAA but we paid a high price so be better be worth it. I know he's got the speed for sure but I don't know what happened to him that the Avs were ready to give up on him.

My guess is the Avs gave up on him because on the one hand he hasn't fully developed yet and they didn't know what he'll become, coupled with the fact that he most likely will always be a soft player on the wall that can't cycle the puck much. So the secondary offense wasn't worth waiting for. That's my guess.

I like the trade because I'd like him to become that player that can put up 50 to 60 points, despite bring a complimentary player that brings no physical play and grind. I find in today's game speed and dogged effort can waer teams out psychologically. And Newhook brings those, hopefully in addition to that 50 to 60 point secondary scoring.

Now if we end up adding another small star forward, like a Michkov or Benson, then his size/softness on the wall may be a problem. But we've added so few star forwards, I'll just be ecstatic if we actually add another star even if it's a small player, and then worry about the mix of players.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I guess we'll find out in the coming months. Like I said, I haven't watched him since he was in the NCAA but we paid a high price so be better be worth it. I know he's got the speed for sure but I don't know what happened to him that the Avs were ready to give up on him.

If we paid a high price for Newhook, did the Avs really ‘give up’ on him?

 

[Zilo44]

Look at the hit rate on late first and early 2nd. We did not pay this much if he ends up a 50 pts player

 

[ChesterNimitz]

He’s on pace for 50+ on a team that is not an offense firepower. Good add

His mere presence increases the team’s speed median and Newhook serves as the main puck transporter on the team’s second power play unit. The acquisition of Newhook was, in this writer’s opinion, a classic case of a deal that was good for both teams. In the Avs’ case, an already deep team, secured two relatively high picks in an acknowledged deep draft. For Montreal, the team acquired the most precious of all hockey assets: elite speed.

 

[Price is Wright]

His mere presence increases the team’s speed median and Newhook serves as the main puck transporter on the team’s second power play unit. The acquisition of the Newhook was, in this writer’s opinion, a classic case of a deal that was good for both teams. In the Avs’ case, an already deep team, secured two relatively high picks in an acknowledgment deep draft. For Montreal, the team acquired the most precious of all hockey assets: elite speed.

It was also clear to Colorado, a contender, that Newhook wasn't going to be a 2C or 3C. They needed centre depth. That's why they traded right after for Ross Colton. In Montreal it's okay if Newhook stays to the wing. If he ends up developing into a centre in Montreal it'll likely go beyond the time schedule the Avalanche are running on.

The price was a bit stiff but he's 22 and he immediately signed on a very team friendly 4 year deal at $2.9M per season. Only 3.5% of the cap and that number will decline as the cap goes up. He was drafted in 2019. He's younger than Cayden Primeau. It's good to put that in perspective.

 

[Jaynki]

If we paid a high price for Newhook, did the Avs really ‘give up’ on him?

Can't have it both ways.

Not sure 31 and 37 ov qualifies as high prices tho. Those are the most middish-pick and they are 10-15 ranks from losing a lot of statistical value.

Example pick 15 is generated by teams that are not in the playoff and give very good odd at drafting important player. Those picks are rarely traded.

Pick 31-37 is generated even by the SC winning teams, every single year and give marginal odd at drafting important player. Those picks are often traded for depth rentals

 

[Andy]

He definitely has the shot and release to be a consistent 20-25 goal guy.

He's a complimentary winger with some room to grow. Will probably give the team 45-55 points is fairly consistently.

I think the habs paid a fair price for him and considering how thin the habs are on offensive depth, esepcially with prospects, I am more than okay with the team paying a decent price to bring some offense on the club RIGHT NOW.

Someone mentioned something about him having 1 point in 13 games. I mean, most top 6 players will have pointless stretches. scoring 45 points in 82 games means you're going at least 37 games without a point....count in multi-point games and it's even more games without points. This is normal for most players that arent PPG.

His offense only really cratered when he was at centre playing with Anderson. It's clear he aint a centre. SInce being returned to the wing away from Anderson, he's been racking up some points.

The price the habs paid isn't all that different from the price the Avs paid for Lekhnonen. I could see Newhook having a similar offensive impact as Lehky.

 

[Don D]

Newhook is the fifth Newfoundlander to play with the Habs. Michael Ryder was the most successful with 3 X 30 plus goal seasons (2 with Habs, 1 with Bruins). Not sure about him reaching 30 goals, but with his speed, Newhook adds more versality.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Can't have it both ways.

Not sure 31 and 37 ov qualifies as high prices tho. Those are the most middish-pick and they are 10-15 ranks from losing a lot of statistical value.

Example pick 15 is generated by teams that are not in the playoff and give very good odd at drafting important player. Those picks are rarely traded.

Pick 31-37 is generated even by the SC winning teams, every single year and give marginal odd at drafting important player. Those picks are often traded for depth rentals

Not all drafts are created equal. Last year was a particularly deep draft where teams had a real opportunity to secure a strong player at the bottom of the first round and at the top half of the second round. I still would have made the trade as I saw Newhook as having a reasonable opportunity of being an impact player for the team. Nothing that I have seen over the first 20 games of the season have dissuaded me from my initial expectations.

 

[rik schau]

The kid looks like he's coming into his own,rounding out his game. If he stays healthy he should easily eclipse his best season stats wise.

Odd thing for me to say but when they isolate the camera on him on the bench,he has some peculiar facial expressions,kind of reminds me of a werewolf prior to metamorphosing. I have noticed he does seem to have pretty heavy and thick and dark facial hair.lol

 

[Redux91]

Yeah people were writing him off WAY too fast
Especially filling in at C for a spell and playing with Josh..

Clearly a winger, clearly unbelievably fast, clearly has a good shot
20 goals this year will be another great step in his development (think about it, Ylonen is 2 years older than him lol)

I can't stop imagining the fun he'd be having with Dach as his C man

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Yeah people were writing him off WAY too fast
Especially filling in at C for a spell and playing with Josh..

Clearly a winger, clearly unbelievably fast, clearly has a good shot
20 goals this year will be another great step in his development (think about it, Ylonen is 2 years older than him lol)

I can't stop imagining the fun he'd be having with Dach as his C man

And there could easily be more to show as well.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I can't stop imagining the fun he'd be having with Dach as his C man

You could say the same thing about a number of our wingers. Dach’s injury was a crippling loss to this very thin in top talent team.

 

[le_sean]

Seems to me like he’s rounding out into the player he’s destined to become, which is a 20 goal 50 point winger. I don’t see much in his game that makes me think that there is more potential than that. He just is what he is. He’s fast, plays a simple game, finds open spots in the offensive zone. Can be a staple on a 2nd PP.

In the end it seems like a good trade. You’d have a tough time finding a player like that at the end of the 1st.

 

[Redux91]

Seems to me like he’s rounding out into the player he’s destined to become, which is a 20 goal 50 point winger. I don’t see much in his game that makes me think that there is more potential than that. He just is what he is. He’s fast, plays a simple game, finds open spots in the offensive zone. Can be a staple on a 2nd PP.

In the end it seems like a good trade. You’d have a tough time finding a player like that at the end of the 1st.

Time will tell, especially with what Management does these next couple of years regarding the top 6,
Newhook will either be a really really good 2nd liner or a great 3rd liner

But it really feels like his spot is right next to Dach, the fun part is finding out who claims the last spot (with Slaf the leading choice BUT all of a sudden has chemistry with Caufield a bit hmm lol)

 

[Scriptor]

He definitely has the shot and release to be a consistent 20-25 goal guy.

He's a complimentary winger with some room to grow. Will probably give the team 45-55 points is fairly consistently.

I think the habs paid a fair price for him and considering how thin the habs are on offensive depth, esepcially with prospects, I am more than okay with the team paying a decent price to bring some offense on the club RIGHT NOW.

Someone mentioned something about him having 1 point in 13 games. I mean, most top 6 players will have pointless stretches. scoring 45 points in 82 games means you're going at least 37 games without a point....count in multi-point games and it's even more games without points. This is normal for most players that arent PPG.

His offense only really cratered when he was at centre playing with Anderson. It's clear he aint a centre. SInce being returned to the wing away from Anderson, he's been racking up some points.

The price the habs paid isn't all that different from the price the Avs paid for Lekhnonen. I could see Newhook having a similar offensive impact as Lehky.

Newhook is what Drouin could have been without the injuries and personal issues, only without the expectations and the anti-francophone sentiment some had towards him (no, not everyone who disliked him were racist).

A complementary winger who can benefit and produce offensively while playing with talented line mates.

 

[le_sean]

Time will tell, especially with what Management does these next couple of years regarding the top 6,
Newhook will either be a really really good 2nd liner or a great 3rd liner

But it really feels like his spot is right next to Dach, the fun part is finding out who claims the last spot (with Slaf the leading choice BUT all of a sudden has chemistry with Caufield a bit hmm lol)

I think his spot is anywhere honestly. He seems like the type of winger you can move to a line that is struggling and he’ll add a jolt of speed and creativity. Those are good players to have.

 

[Toene]

The kid looks like he's coming into his own,rounding out his game. If he stays healthy he should easily eclipse his best season stats wise.

Odd thing for me to say but when they isolate the camera on him on the bench,he has some peculiar facial expressions,kind of reminds me of a werewolf prior to metamorphosing. I have noticed he does seem to have pretty heavy and thick and dark facial hair.lol

He has a juvenile face but grown-man facial hair. Weird!

 

[Redux91]

I think his spot is anywhere honestly. He seems like the type of winger you can move to a line that is struggling and he’ll add a jolt of speed and creativity. Those are good players to have.

I can definitely agree with that, for sure

 

[JoelWarlord]

He's fun to watch. Hoping there's another gear but if this is what he ends up being, I'm more or less happy with it and there's probably more production in the tank when he plays with Dach again.

 

[Tyson]

He is what? 22? He is still learning but the kid can skate and shoot the puck.