Player Discussion Alex Newhook

Dirby Kach

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I’ve been saying that for 40-years - look to keep trading 1st rounders for NHL ready talent

In the cap world look to keep making Dach type deals - players on ELC or about to start 2nd contracts

what would you do without Poehling, Juulsen, Scherbak, McCarron, Beaulieu, Tinordi , Leblanc, Fischer and company?
 

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what would you do without Poehling, Juulsen, Scherbak, McCarron, Beaulieu, Tinordi , Leblanc, Fischer and company?
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Newhook could be so much worse at C, but he's been good enough to be the bandaid. Any game now, Dvorak will be coming back into the lineup, and Newhook should immediately go to the Suzuki line.

Caufield-Suzuki-Newhook
Slafkovsky-Monahan-Anderson
Pearson-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP-Evans-Armia/Ylonen
 
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26Mats

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Newhook could be so much worse at C, but he's been good enough to be the bandaid. Any game now, Dvorak will be coming back into the lineup, and Newhook should immediately go to the Suzuki line.

Caufield-Suzuki-Newhook
Slafkovsky-Monahan-Anderson
Pearson-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP-Evans-Armia/Ylonen

I think that's how it will start out. But I'm not convinced that dvo vet linecwill be good. I mean if they're good defensively, they'll probably stick. But I don't see them generating much offense. And I'd like Dvo and Pearson to have decent or good offensive numbers so we can move them for a good return.

So, I'd rather go something like:

Caufield Suzuki Dvo
RHP Newhook Anderson
Pearson Monahan Slaf
Gallagher Evan's Ylonen

Hopefully this not only puts the youth in a hood position to develop, but also helps keep Dvo, Anderson, Pearson, and Monahan's numbers up in case we trade them.
 
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WeThreeKings

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It actually sounds like they are going to do this when Dvorak is back

Monahan-Suzuki-Caufield
Slafkovsky-Newhook-Anderson
Pearson-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP-Evans-Armia
Ylonen/Pezzetta
 
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Tyson

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It actually sounds like they are going to do this when Dvorak is back

Monahan-Suzuki-Caufield
Slafkovsky-Newhook-Anderson
Pearson-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP-Evans-Armia
Ylonen/Pezzetta
At this point I would switch Gallagher with Anderson. Josh does not belong in the top 6 currently. He damn sure doesn't belong on the PP. On the Habs PP he is easily the most ineffective of the 5 players on the ice.
 

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At this point I would switch Gallagher with Anderson. Josh does not belong in the top 6 currently. He damn sure doesn't belong on the PP. On the Habs PP he is easily the most ineffective of the 5 players on the ice.
Gallagher doesn't belong in the top 6, either. Losing Dach put a huge hole in the top 6.
 

Seb

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It actually sounds like they are going to do this when Dvorak is back

Monahan-Suzuki-Caufield
Slafkovsky-Newhook-Anderson
Pearson-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP-Evans-Armia
Ylonen/Pezzetta

Reuniting Monahan with Caufield/Suzuki should definitely be their goal.
 
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HuGort

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It actually sounds like they are going to do this when Dvorak is back

Monahan-Suzuki-Caufield
Slafkovsky-Newhook-Anderson
Pearson-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP-Evans-Armia
Ylonen/Pezzetta
It makes sense. We lack scoring winger on first line. By March I hope Roy is there though. They are grooming Newhook for center
 

Tyson

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Gallagher doesn't belong in the top 6, either. Losing Dach put a huge hole in the top 6.
I agree but he has hockey sense, battles in the corners and would be better than Anderson who brings nothing. We are seeing the Anderson who scored 1 goal in 26 games during his last season in Columbus
 

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I didnt say right away.. 🤣

My point was that Newhook looks better suited to being a winger on our team, so hopefully they don't view him with us as a center long term and he goes back to wing when Dvorak gets back.

Do you need to have a prolific scouting profile in juniors to make the NHL? Not saying Beck will make the season team next year but when he does he'll play a defensive role like what Danault did when he was here. That has nothing to do with Monahan who won't be here in the long term.
I agree that we can't say for sure Monahan will be here long-term, but I submit we need a 3C who can produce, regardless A contender's 3C should be able to handle 2C if necessary. If not Monahan, someone else. Thing is: at the moment, I don't see Beck as EVER being able to be a 2C. He would hopefully be able to be a 4C with chip-ins on offence, while trusted to counter a top 6 line if necessary. In other words, an upgrade on Evans.

I think Newhook MIGHT be able to handle the 3C role at some point, but not now. If Monahan is here for a bit to help him transiton to that role, it might work out. Otherwise, I say again, we will need to find that 7th best forward to who can play top-6 if needed.
 

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It makes sense. We lack scoring winger on first line. By March I hope Roy is there though. They are grooming Newhook for center
I don't like it, too many eggs in the first basket. I'd move Pearson to the 1st line to play the support and corner-digging role, Monahan to the 2nd line to take Dach's place with Slaf and Newhook for now, and move RHP to the third line with Dvo and Anderson. Gally should get 4th line minutes and skip back to backs to be as fresh as possible when he has to bust his rear end on the ice,.
 

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At this point I would switch Gallagher with Anderson. Josh does not belong in the top 6 currently. He damn sure doesn't belong on the PP. On the Habs PP he is easily the most ineffective of the 5 players on the ice.

Anderson really doesn't fit anywhere, he's probably better off with Gallagher and Dvorak where there's no imagination and everything is funneled to the net.

Pearson, Monahan, Ylonen are all options I would try next to Slaf-Newhook, but even then I think I'd rather reunite Slaf with Monahan.
 

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Newhook cannot cycle to save his life. He needs to be on a quick strike line. He worked well with Anderson because theyre both the same, they don't cycle at all.

Slafkovsky isn't a fit for this line, at all. He likes to slow the pace, grind it out, take it to the outside, wait for the play to settle. Slaf would be a lot better served with Monahan and Pearson.

There's no one currently to play with Alex and Andy. Maybe Evans, but he's needed on the 4th line.

I'd try Ylonen.
 

BaseballCoach

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Playing with Mitch Marner and Mathew Tkachuk.
And sometimes outpointing them.

Anyway my thought is that OHL production does not always translate to NHL, and with Beck, I am very doubtful he could ever handle a 2nd line role.

Newhook cannot cycle to save his life. He needs to be on a quick strike line. He worked well with Anderson because theyre both the same, they don't cycle at all.

Slafkovsky isn't a fit for this line, at all. He likes to slow the pace, grind it out, take it to the outside, wait for the play to settle. Slaf would be a lot better served with Monahan and Pearson.

There's no one currently to play with Alex and Andy. Maybe Evans, but he's needed on the 4th line.

I'd try Ylonen.
RHP might work with them. He did ok with Anderson last year at times.
 

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And sometimes outpointing them.

Anyway my thought is that OHL production does not always translate to NHL, and with Beck, I am very doubtful he could ever handle a 2nd line role.


RHP might work with them. He did ok with Anderson last year at times.
Bernie Nicholls had 150 points in 88-89 playing with the Great One and Gretzky had 168 only. I'll let you figure out which player was better cause the small points difference can be misleading here ;) I think Beck will be a 3rd line center if he develops. Out 2nd line center moving forward will be Dach if he can remain healthy.
 

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Newhook cannot cycle to save his life. He needs to be on a quick strike line. He worked well with Anderson because theyre both the same, they don't cycle at all.

Slafkovsky isn't a fit for this line, at all. He likes to slow the pace, grind it out, take it to the outside, wait for the play to settle. Slaf would be a lot better served with Monahan and Pearson.

There's no one currently to play with Alex and Andy. Maybe Evans, but he's needed on the 4th line.

I'd try Ylonen.
Sadly management doesn't see Ylonen as anything but a spare forward, he needs a change of scenery
 

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