Confirmed with Link: Alex Newhook for 31st, 37th and Fairbrother
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Twisted Sinister
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Again, I might be on the other side of this from many well-respected members on the forum, but I just do not see an organizational need for this player whatsoever, given our current and future makeup.
Yeah, I don’t buy the “panic move” thing.
Hughes knows Newhook well and management probably had a list of “underwhelming” young players they would be ready to gamble on if the price was right for them.
Even though I wouldn’t have made that move, there’s clearly a thought process into this transaction. And by draft night, if Hughes can get a first or a second for our surplus, it will be even more clear that they thought it out.
I really liked Dach since he was drafted and was excited to get him, I just don't see where this guy fits. In baldy we trust I guess.
Don’t see the need for Newhook either, but that doesn’t necessarily scream panic move.
What if Hughes trades 5th for 7th and 22nd and then Edmundson 50% for a 2nd and a 4th.
Does that not show that management made a calculated decision to gamble on the upside of a young player while still keeping the same draft power ?
I do agree that we could have targeted something else.
Skip Bayless
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If Smith is on board, Hughes picks him it's that simple. He is their guy.
This is why the trade to move down wont be done until it's the habs' turn to speak.
It's obvious Michkov is not their guy. If he was, the media wouldn't be on a rampage to tear down his reputation so freely. Believe me, Mathias Brunet/Martin McGuire and Dany Dubé wouldn't be yapping as much if Michkov was the guy. These people are connected.
Besides, I'm pretty sure Hughes has a better guess of what will go down tomorrow than we do. I think today was a preparation for tomorrow.
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The Newhook trade and saying they have too many prospects is half-assed, You are seriously arguing that Anderson and Gallagher compare with other NHL veterans in supporting a young team. Two players most fans can't wait to trade. This is sad, enough.
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Skip Bayless
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I think people underrate Newhook's offensive abilities. We just landed the second best shot and probably the best skater on the team.
LOL I love this fan base. Hankering for a Dach like move since the season ended. We pull one off and immediately it's an over-payment. 
I may be wrong but 31 and 37 are not worth a heck of a lot more than 13. Why anyone thought replicating the Dach trade was ever going to be easy I don't know. But I have a good feeling about it. On the one hand we traded for an under achiever from a tank team and on the other from a Stanley Cup Championship contender. Hughes went fill spectrum to get these deals done. That has to be impressive right!
I may be wrong but 31 and 37 are not worth a heck of a lot more than 13. Why anyone thought replicating the Dach trade was ever going to be easy I don't know. But I have a good feeling about it. On the one hand we traded for an under achiever from a tank team and on the other from a Stanley Cup Championship contender. Hughes went fill spectrum to get these deals done. That has to be impressive right!
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Yes, I'm not writing the organization off yet. We'll see what they do at the draft.
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I actually see this newhook trade as meaning we will take michkov. We get a young former first rounder now we can watch while we wait for our other first rounder (mitchkov) to come.
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My initial impression was that we paid a very steep price, but after thinking it through some more I think it was a reasonable price to pay for the quality of player we're getting in return.
It's easy to value those draft picks highly because of the potential of what they can become, but the reality is each pick in that range has something like ~30-35% of becoming a regular NHL roster player some day (let alone become an impact player). Maybe one of them becomes a roster player some day; it's still probably at best a coin flip statistically that that player becomes as good or better than what Newhook is today, let alone what Newhook could continue to grow to be.
Newhook has some really solid tools and players his age are still figuring things out. There's still real potential there based on the flashes of skill he's shown with the Avs. The organization must feel they can work with the player and his tools to bring his game together and contribute consistently.
It's easy to value those draft picks highly because of the potential of what they can become, but the reality is each pick in that range has something like ~30-35% of becoming a regular NHL roster player some day (let alone become an impact player). Maybe one of them becomes a roster player some day; it's still probably at best a coin flip statistically that that player becomes as good or better than what Newhook is today, let alone what Newhook could continue to grow to be.
Newhook has some really solid tools and players his age are still figuring things out. There's still real potential there based on the flashes of skill he's shown with the Avs. The organization must feel they can work with the player and his tools to bring his game together and contribute consistently.
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No, it wasn't an issue because Newhook is a lot bulkier than Michkov. Its not relevant to what he said. I mean on some sites Michkov is listed as 148 lbs lol
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Another move that seems well thought out.
This kid ad limited icetime with the Avs, ala Dach with the Hawks.............
Could he benefit being with a team less stacked in their Top 6 than the Avs?
Anyhow, these guys keep doing things with 1st round picks or 1st round players involved.
There is a pattern and a process.........refreshing after 10 years of throwing darts.
This kid ad limited icetime with the Avs, ala Dach with the Hawks.............
Could he benefit being with a team less stacked in their Top 6 than the Avs?
Anyhow, these guys keep doing things with 1st round picks or 1st round players involved.
There is a pattern and a process.........refreshing after 10 years of throwing darts.
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You put things into an interesting perspective.
It's been 4 years since 2019 draft and despite being one of the top10 point producers from what was considered a "deep draft" at the time, Newhook is regarded by many as less than satisfactory return.
4 years from now, Suzuki and Caufield will be halfway into their contracts, with Dach needing to be resigned by then and all will be around 26-27yo. Assuming we adhere to the cup window concept, we should be into it by then. What are the odds the guys selected 31 & 37 this week are bigger contributors by then than Newhook could become or even is today.
That's the way I see it.
All those assets wasted just to replace Drouin
Not all players (or pickles) are created equally!
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It is an overpayment thoLOL I love this fan base. Hankering for a Dach like move since the season ended. We pull one off and immediately it's an over-payment.
I may be wrong but 31 and 37 are not worth a heck of a lot more than 13. Why anyone thought replicating the Dach trade was ever going to be easy I don't know. But I have a good feeling about it. On the one hand we traded for an under achiever from a tank team and on the other from a Stanley Cup Championship contender. Hughes went fill spectrum to get these deals done. That has to be impressive right!
but at the same time we can't draft for shit
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Newhook may not bring everything that Dach has, but he is still an interesting gamble from my standpoint. He fits the vision of a skillful, fast-skating team; being one of the swiftest draftees from 2019. A few websites have him at 5'11", and he's definitely durable. It's a buy-low opportunity, although I agree with some that HuGo might have kept #37. I don't really know whether it was a difference maker. I like to think that MSL and Nicholas will bring the best out of him. I personally like the idea of a top 9 that gets the lion's share of minutes with three competent centers. I don't think in terms of a Top 6 so much.
Hopefully HuGo can get a second-rounder for one of his vets and snag one of the top goalies, which is what our prospect pipeline seems in dire need of.
Hopefully HuGo can get a second-rounder for one of his vets and snag one of the top goalies, which is what our prospect pipeline seems in dire need of.
Twisted Sinister
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Would you mind listing off the heights for the rest of the Vegas top 6?
