Confirmed with Link: Alex Newhook for 31st, 37th and Fairbrother

[MadMslm]

Anybody here actually watch Newhook play a bunch?

Playoff run this year, playoff run last year and a few games here and there during the last two season.

Yes, I'm not writing the organization off yet. We'll see what they do at the draft.

Me neither, just disappointed as we lose two of our three best picks. I was eager to see who would still be there at 31st and what direction they would have taken with 37th.

Hopefully Hughes has one more trick up his sleeve or it might be a disappointing draft night.

 

[Pacciosoftie]

Why did Colorado decide to part ways with him? He’s still young.

 

[HabbyGuy]

If Smith is on board, Hughes picks him it's that simple. He is their guy.

This is why the trade to move down wont be done until it's the habs' turn to speak.

It's obvious Michkov is not their guy. If he was, the media wouldn't be on a rampage to tear down his reputation so freely.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Hughes has a better guess of what will go down tomorrow than we do. I think today was a preparation for tomorrow.

No it's not obvious, and whatever concerns you guys propose the habs have with Michkov wouldn't the team allegedly trading up for him also have? Why would they trade up for such a malcontent thay you suggest these media types are describing him to be?

I have not heard anything in the media that can be described as a rampage against his reputation. I've heard one unbstatiated rumour, that's it.

 

[ReHabs]

No, it wasn't an issue because Newhook is a lot bulkier than Michkov. Its not relevant to what he said. I mean on some sites Michkov is listed as 148 lbs lol

Newhook is also half a decade older.

Sorry Michael Adams, I usually am on board with the majority of your takes, but I don’t see how this fits in with Hughes/Gorton/Molson saying we are rebuilding. We’re not adding a piece that we’re missing, we’re adding something we already have a plethora of…. Small, non physical forwards. And it cost us a first and a second along with a prospect!!!

Caufield
Suzuki
Farrell
Gallagher
Harvey-Pinard
Hoffman
Mesar

That’s TWO lines of players that are too short, or too soft, or both, to have on a winning team. You can have smaller guys if they have world class talent, but I don’t see that in any of them. It’s too much of what we have already, and not enough of what we needed.

If it makes you rest easy, you can forget about Gallagher, Hoffman, Farrell, and Mešar. Just forget about them. If the latter two ever earn a spot in our top6, you’ll be ecstatic to know it. RHP is a sparkplug type, don’t worry about him either. He won’t be a top6 feature if we ever have a serious team.

The Dach-esque flip flopping most of you will do next season will be delicious. I really had a good time witnessing it first hand last season and I'm looking forward to the opportunity to do it again.

I was against the Dach acquisition because I felt we weren’t rebuilding as expected — and Dach’s injury/risk profile wasn’t attractive.

At this point I know better than to whine about this trade. My only complaint is at how worthless our prospect pool must be that we had to trade draft picks instead of our many many prospects.

Otherwise, sanguine.

Now, if you wanna get us into a tilt tell me Hughes is going to trade down from 5 so he could draft the next Chris Higgins.

 

[gusfring]

+ 13 mins per game
Was it because he couldn't hack more, or just typical "young prospects need to earn his icetime" thing?

We'll see.


As for people complaining about size... this team just drafted Slaf last year and added Dach. I think they're just going for the best players they can find at the price they're willing to pay.

We had MB focus on "meh biceps" for so long, and now we complain about going for skilled players?

He started the season in their top 6 and was abysmal.

 

[Habs13]

Much quicker skater. Anderson has a high end straightforward speed. But it takes him three or four strides to reach that speed. In two strides, Newhook is at top speed. He’s a much nimbler skater than Anderson. The acquisition of Newhook has increased the median speed level of our team. Gutsy trade.

I'm pretty excited to see Dach with both Anderson and Newhook - two speedy wingers with skill and Dach who can pass but Newhook also seems like a solid set-up guy, from what I see on youtube.

Slafkovsky with Caufield and Suzuki
Newhook with Anderson and Dach
Monahan with... ummm RHP and Heineman?!
Evans with Ylonen and one of the spare parts

 

[Frank Drebin]

Why did Colorado decide to part ways with him? He’s still young.

I'm thinking it was a similar decision as the Hawks did with dach, cut bait while the player still had perceived value around the league.

 

[NobleSix]

I think people underrate Newhook's offensive abilities. We just landed the second best shot and probably the best skater on the team.

Most people here have never even seen Newhook play, they're just basing their opinions off of what they read from some disgruntled Avs fan on some main boards thread 3 months ago, or looked up his stats when they read about the trade. Exact same thing with Dach.

Oh no we traded basically two second round picks for a 22 year old who has the very real potential to be a very good 2nd line winger. Say it aint so.

I've never seen a more overvalued trade currency than 2nd round picks man. It's amazing. They're complete dogshit like 99% of the time.

 

[FF de Mars]

Just watch Newhook go on a rampage, his roots are digged in, he's ready to grow. I suspect Sakic panicked after his team lost to a bigger team in the playoffs.

 

[Runner77]

Some of us here feel not giving away the farm for PLD is hardly a failure but constitutes a true blessing.

We all knew that was never going to happen. Not the lot of a rebuilding team with no excess quality disposable assets.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Why did Colorado decide to part ways with him? He’s still young.

It's a cap decision I think. They have a few to re-sign.

 

[Runner77]

Yup I mixed up repository and suppository there for a second.

Another bad day at the orifice, I see.

 

[Skip Bayless]

No it's not obvious, and whatever concerns you guys propose the habs have with Michkov wouldn't the team allegedly trading up for him also have? Why would they trade up for such a malcontent thay you suggest these media types are describing him to be?

I have not heard anything in the media that can be described as a rampage against his reputation. I've heard one unbstatiated rumour, that's it.

The media is spewing propaganda so that Geoff doesn't have to explain he's nixing Michkov for being on the wrong side of the geopolitical conflict, stuff that fans don't and shouldn't care about. It doesn't matter if the attacks are unsubstantiated, it's out there.

Other team owners don't have that issue with their corporate/government posture, but Geoff does.

It is what it is.

 

[Runner77]

Are you suggesting some nepotism on Hughes' part?

Familiarity.

Breeds contempt.

(for diminutives).

 

[HabbyGuy]

The media is spewing propaganda so that Geoff doesn't have to explain he's nixing Michkov for being on the wrong side of the geopolitical conflict, stuff that fans don't and shouldn't care about. It doesn't matter if the attacks are unsubstantiated, it's out there.

Other team owners don't have that issue with their corporate/government posture, but Geoff does.

It is what it is.

Then we have significant systematic fundamental problems and will never find our way out of this maze. Molson needs to back the hell off .

 

[Schooner Guy]

Why did Colorado decide to part ways with him? He’s still young.

They can't afford the RFA raise he's going to get this offseason under their cap structure. It's the same reason they couldn't keep Kadri last year who was a UFA deep into summer before finally signing with Calgary.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Then we have significant fundamental problems and will never find out way out of this maze. Molson needs to back the hell off .

It's not even Molson, it's just the way the world works. Everything is dictated by money, even the moral values that are promoted by the government and corporations.

 

[ReHabs]

We all knew that was never going to happen. Not the lot of a rebuilding team with no excess quality disposable assets.

We were literally too asset poor to acquire PLD. It wasn’t his caphit that got in the way, it was that the Habs organization is inexplicably too asset poor at all times, in all years.

Elsewhere I just read WPG wanted Guhle. We can’t spare Guhle! Forget it, we can’t even spare Xhekaj!

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Newhook has like 20+ lbs on Michkov.

And 22 years old vs 18 years old

 

[HabbyGuy]

It's not even Molson, it's just the way the world works. Everything is dictated by money, even the moral values that are promoted by the government and corporations.

Where exactly does this money come from? The advertising and corporate funds afforded to the team are only possible because of it's fans. Without the fans none of these things exist.

Without sheep there's no use of a shepherd.

 

[MadMslm]

Most people here have never even seen Newhook play, they're just basing their opinions off of what they read from some disgruntled Avs fan on some main boards thread 3 months ago, or looked up his stats when they read about the trade. Exact same thing with Dach.

Oh no we traded basically two second round picks for a 22 year old who has the very real potential to be a very good 2nd line winger. Say it aint so.

I've never seen a more overvalued trade currency than 2nd round picks man. It's amazing. They're complete dogshit like 99% of the time.

Sure, some are probably panicking and others like me are disappointed in losing draft capital a day before the draft.

Dach is a widely different beast than Newhook. He has way more tools, higher ceiling and can play any type of game.

Most picks in that range won’t amount to much, that’s true.

Just watch Newhook go on a rampage, his roots are digged in, he's ready to grow. I suspect Sakic panicked after his team lost to a bigger team in the playoffs.

Colorado barely had any depth left. Like any team that wins the cup they had to cut quality depth because they couldn’t keep all of them. They probably wouldn’t have won again this year but add a player or two and they could have made some damage again.

And with empty cupboards, it’s not like Sakic had much to play with. He seems to value his first round pick a lot and with this trade he now has three picks in the first two rounds.

Avs will obviously move again.

 

[ZUKI]

This is a massive overpayment imo. Kotkaniemi was also younger than Newhook when the Habs gave up on him and some of the guys here are OK with this trade but wanted Kotkaniemi out asap ? I don't understand the double standard here... I would pick Kotkaniemi over Newhook any day of the week. This feels like a panic move. The habs had 3 picks in the top 40 and now only the 5th remains in a deep draft from what I understand. NHL stars like Sebastian Aho, Roope Hintz, Jason Robertson, Jordan Kyrou, etc. were all 2nd round picks... By not having those picks, the organization give up on that potential home run. I wouldn't mind in another weaker year, but this year doesn't seems like the year to make that kind of Newhook move. This is sad... I was excited for that 2nd round this year

You named 4 x 2nd rounders that were home run. Cool
Now Erika, could you name the others that weren't home run during the last drafts ? I don't think so, because that's a lot of players. Fact is you have a very low pourcentage of chance to get an NHL player. Today they trade for one that IS an NHL player, that has a Cup ring , and that wasn't place in a position to succeed. It could work, it couldn't , we'll see, but i think that it is a gambling that has a lot more % of success .

 

[Habs]

Most people here have never even seen Newhook play, they're just basing their opinions off of what they read from some disgruntled Avs fan on some main boards thread 3 months ago, or looked up his stats when they read about the trade. Exact same thing with Dach.

Oh no we traded basically two second round picks for a 22 year old who has the very real potential to be a very good 2nd line winger. Say it aint so.

I've never seen a more overvalued trade currency than 2nd round picks man. It's amazing. They're complete dogshit like 99% of the time.

We did get Beck/Hutson with a second last year though, Kidney Strudle , Ylonene, Romanov... we went years without any second round picks too.

 

[Schooner Guy]

At this point I know better than to whine about this trade. My only complaint is at how worthless our prospect pool must be that we had to trade draft picks instead of our many many prospects.

Didn't you ramble on for months about how draft picks are magic beans? Good heavens man!

 

[Runner77]

They can't afford the RFA raise he's going to get this offseason under their cap structure. It's the same reason they couldn't keep Kadri last year who was a UFA deep into summer before finally signing with Calgary.

Could we not have exploited the situation a little better since we knew Colorado couldn’t afford him?

Just trying to figure out how we ended up coughing up 2 picks when one might have gone the job in what is a very deep draft.

I know … “it is what it is.”