Confirmed with Link: Alex Newhook for 31st, 37th and Fairbrother

[sampollock]

Kent has a team that is faster and young, but not a playoff team yet, he will keep working

 

[japhi]

The "can't create separation" is especially puzzling to me, because I distinctly remember Newhook being described as an ELITE skater in his draft year.

They are just making stuff up, using buzz words.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I'm all for talent before size, 1000%, but we starting to get small here.
you dont want a team easily pushed around
Me thinking if they wanted Michkov, they wouldn't do this trade

If he’s available they’re taking Leonard.

 

[GrandBison]

RHP would be great for Slaf, with Monahan on the 3rd line.

With Newhook in, there will be a battle between RHP and Slaf for the last roster spot, unless one of Armia, Hoffman, Dvorak or Gallagher is going out... and what happens with Gurianov.

 

[Omar]

Please explain why this have a move down written all over it for those of us in the back. Because I don't understand how you've come to this conclusion.

Getting rid of 31+37 makes it more likely to me that we make another deal to get another 1st. Plus reports today again that we’re looking to trade down.

I think that Dvorak is done in Montreal though but I don’t think he gets a 1st.

 

[The Great Weal]

Avs will flip these picks for a player so will be interesting to compare that player to Newhook. I'm going to guess that player is Sharangovich who I'd rather have over Newhook.

 

[Chadstudsky]

I think Hughes signs him to a 4 year, 11mil deal and similar to what we saw with Dach, he is already underpaid in year one.

 

[LaP]

I'm not convinced about this one. Not a big fan of Newhook personally. It's s step price to pay for what looks like a gamble and honestly a far less interesting one than Dach. If we trade the 5th overall it better be a more convincing trade than that.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Getting rid of 31+37 makes it more likely to me that we make another deal to get another 1st. Plus reports today again that we’re looking to trade down.

OK while possible I suppose, and understand your reasoning as to why they might move down.

It still doesn't suggest that it has a move down wriiten all over it, nor that we will infact be doing that.

 

[stanley25]

I like this trade as most of our prospects generally turn to crap.

With that said if KH trades down from 5 as well and this draft turns out to be as good as people say he will look extremely bad.... Gutsy move

 

[Runner77]

Why would Philly do that?

Brière has been reported to be looking to move up and looks to have interest in Michkov, who may likely be there at the Habs’ drafting slot.

 

[Takeru]

I understand that those picks arent worth much and dont hit often but why post 31st and 37th former pics showing the exact picks at that spot instead looking at it from a 31-37 range, thats usually where the ONE good pick in the second round comes from, just saying ,

That's a different exercise.
Then you'd have to factor in we traded 2/7 odds, or essentially 30% chance of a good pick, assuming there's in fact one on average each year. Or on the flipside, 70% at getting zilch.

 

[BozoTheClown]

It’s clear that Molson wants his team to make the playoffs as soon as possible. Stuck in perpetual mediocrity.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Avs will flip these picks for a player so will be interesting to compare that player to Newhook. I'm going to guess that player is Sharangovich who I'd rather have over Newhook.

Probably some 30yo geezer like Toffoli and Shitfilet.

 

[lillypad33]

Dvorak must be gone no?

Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Dach, Newhook, Monahan, RHP, Anderson....getting crowded

What would the return be? A 4th? Might as well keep him?

 

[Adam Michaels]

The size is actually my main problem with it. I don't mind giving up the picks. But we need size and elite talent on this team. This move brings us neither and therefore appears useless to me. All it gives us is another undersized body.

Like, this is not some overreaction to the Dubois on my part to the Dubois hype train that was going on. This is just my reaction to them trading valuable assets for what seems to be something that as useless as tits on a bull to our organizational makeup.

The fact that it happened in such proximity with us not getting Dubois really makes it look like a panic move.

But he's not small. If you watch him, you don't see a small player and you don't see a slow player. The whole size issue is bring overblown. He's not Sean Farrell or Cole Caufield size. And he doesn't need to be Anderson size to be a solid player. He's missed 11 games total in 2 years, so he seems durable.

What are the valuable asstes? 31st OA is a valuable asset compared to a guy who went 16th OA in another really good draft? But also has 2 NHL years under his belt already? This isn't to say anyone they'd take 31st OA wouldn't amount to anything. But instead of waiting 4-5 years to see if that player pans out, you can have a player who can grow and reach his potential as soon as next year and for years to come.

Do you think he's redundant because you look at his 30-point production and think that's his ceiling? We need to understanding the context he was in in Colorado? They're in a win now mode. When Newhook came into the NHL, Avs had MacKinnon, Kadri, Rantanen, Landeskog, Nichuskin, Burakovsky, acquired Lehkonen. So he was playing in a Bottom-6 role. Avs were not in a spot where they had to develop the kid.

 

[sheed36]

After the Lehky and Newhook trades Sakic probably calling Hughes now offering 27, 31, and 37 to move up to 5 this year and thinking it just might happen.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Sorry Michael Adams, I usually am on board with the majority of your takes, but I don’t see how this fits in with Hughes/Gorton/Molson saying we are rebuilding. We’re not adding a piece that we’re missing, we’re adding something we already have a plethora of…. Small, non physical forwards. And it cost us a first and a second along with a prospect!!!

Caufield
Suzuki
Farrell
Gallagher
Harvey-Pinard
Hoffman
Mesar

That’s TWO lines of players that are too short, or too soft, or both, to have on a winning team. You can have smaller guys if they have world class talent, but I don’t see that in any of them. It’s too much of what we have already, and not enough of what we needed.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Because they are weak links on a team with possible stars, they coast through their contracts, young players provide twice their energy and effort while short term is more effective and suitable to a young team looking for an identity, they need good veterans to learn from. Monahan is ideal for Slavkovsky and Gallagher while he is fresh and healthy. Everyone says Anderson is learning under MSL, I hope so, Dach will have him and hopefully RHP to provide energy. The defense is another topic.
Monahan, Anderson, and Gallagher are still a weak veteran group I would like to add to but HuGo seems intent to add more questionable young players like Newhook. I hope they have a plan.

You're trying to downplay this deal by bringing up Hoffman and Armia in an attempt to paint it like Habs have a team who half-asses it game in and game out.

Monahan, Anderson, and Gallagher are still a good veteran group. It doesn't mean they're the best ones. But the way they play and conduct themselves are good examples for young players to learn from.

 

[OnTheRun]

It’s clear that Molson wants his team to make the playoffs as soon as possible. Stuck in perpetual mediocrity.

His team wasn't one Newhook away from securing a playoff berth.
As of today (June 27th, it kinda mean shit all) this team is still a lottery team.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Sorry Michael Adams, I usually am on board with the majority of your takes, but I don’t see

I disagree with your disagreement of my take.

Especially when you mix up my name.

 

[Omar]

OK while possible I suppose, and understand your reasoning as to why they might move down.

It still doesn't suggest that it has a move down wriiten all over it, nor that we will infact be doing that.

It does to me because we gave up two high picks, obviously not a guarantee though.

 

[Runner77]

We are becoming a repository for unloved and underperforming Quartexx clients.

Who’s next?

 

[Gravity]

Useless trade with wasted assets imo. Would've rather used those picks to move up to 4.

 

[Habs]

Trading for a player under 6ft tall is apparently woke now.

only in Montreal, its a woke policy they have to maintain