Confirmed with Link: Alex Newhook for 31st, 37th and Fairbrother

Victoire HuGo

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It should seem obvious to everyone the habs are going after players in the same age group, who have untapped potential, in hopes to have MSL and staff develop them. He's basically just a more ripened prospect.

His production thus far and physical stature suggests we overpaid, but that has yet to be determined, in terms of what we might have drafted with those picks, and or how Newhook performs going forward. He certainly has potential.

I'll admit I was confused by the move when I first heard of it, but more with the price of this move than the philosophy of it. I guess we'll see how it turns out.

I don't understand however how people are correalating this as proof the habs are most likely moving down in the draft. I still believe the 5th spot is an ideal spot in this draft, and one has nothing to do with the other.

It would be like someone suggesting the habs acquired Newhook to use him to move UP in the draft. There's absolutely nothing to legitimately suggest one or the other,

Strange that Basu would express that the reason the habs would balk going after someone like Michkov due to size, would then have same team acquire another a smaller player to play in their top 6.

Only confirming that Basu is indeed an idiot.
You mean the same Basu who called the Newhook trade yesterday on a podcast?
 
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BJCOLLINS

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Sakic called this kid up at 19yo to play in the NHL playoffs. At 20 Sakic gave him an opportunity to play 71 gms & they won the cup.
Last year 82 gms as a 21yo……he‘s displaying a solid 200 ft game with speed. Sakic just traded for the big vet C Johansen because the Avs are still in a cup window, he an amazing GM. His glowing opinion of both Barron & Newhook didn’t change because they were traded….he won a cup and looking for more.
 

HuGort

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Avs fan and Newhook fan coming in peace.

You've got a strong player in Newhook. The issue in Denver is that a few very fortunate pick-ups worked way better than expected, leaving no room on the Wing, and in a win-now mode, Newhook simply wasn't seasoned enough to take the 2C slot. He gets a lot of shit from my HF boardmates, but don't put much weight into that.

He definitely has speed for the NHL. His edgework needs some work.
He has a nice shooting touch, but is no puck hog. In fact, he is too generous with passes sometimes.
He loses more puck battles than he should, but I think he is still torn between adding muscle and keeping speed.
Good Hockey IQ

I'd say he definitely has Top 6 wing potential today, and still could end up as a 2C with the right linemates. He can be lethal in the bumper spot.

The kid is a joy in interviews and seems to be a good guy in the locker room. All in all, I think you will like what you got from this trade.
I re-watched the 2019 draft. Colorado was certainly elated to draft him. Sakic and co, we saying the speed, character and hockey sense why they picked Newhook.

Hughes must believe in Newhook. Hope he works out as well as Dach. As left shot imagine Newhook be given chance first line leftwing minutes with Suzuki and Caufield.
 
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Adam Michaels

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That is my first huge L for Hughes.
I am not a big fan of claiming reclamation project all the time.

I think the biggest mistake is not trading the pick but at least wait until the draft start to see how it goes and maybe some players drop and you can snag him. That was my main issue also with the Andrew Shaw trade. Trading away late 1st/2nd round pick one day prior to the draft, I am not a fan.

I'm having a hard time understanding how a 22 year old Newhook, who just played his second full season is a reclamation project? You're not the first person I see mention this.

Also, by the time the 31st OA selection comes around, maybe Avs trade Newhook elsehwhere. And you miss out on a player you target and can help you much sooner than the 31st OA ever will. And not just sooner, but depending what deal Newhook is signed to, can also help you in the long term, as well.

I know not all drafts are created equal, and this year is a deep one. But you need to remember the 2019 draft was also a real good one. And getting a 16th OA pick from a really good draft and paying a 31st OA is a good move, IMO.

And for correction, Shaw was acquired on Day 1 of the draft during the 1st round. And they never traded a 1st for him. They traded two 2nds. Not a day before.
 

ChesterNimitz

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Faster than Josh Anderson?
Much quicker skater. Anderson has a high end straightforward speed. But it takes him three or four strides to reach that speed. In two strides, Newhook is at top speed. He’s a much nimbler skater than Anderson. The acquisition of Newhook has increased the median speed level of our team. Gutsy trade.
 
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26Mats

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Much quicker skater. Anderson has a high end straightforward speed. But it takes him three or four strides strides to reach that speed. In two strides, Newhook is at top speed in two strides. A much nimbler skater. The acquisition of Newhook has increased the median speed level of our team. Gutsy trade.

I previously wanted RHP to continue playing with Anderson, as they played well together.

Maybe Newhook and Anderson play together. That's a lot of speed.
 

Canadiens Ghost

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This fanbase sure panics easily. No idea if it will turn out the same way but I have déjà vu from when the Habs acquired Dach. Same negative comments.
Hughes has earned some leeway and if it happens this ends up being a mistake, so be it. Not a single GM is perfect in decision making. As long as the good moves outweigh the bad ones.
It's an interesting move. What are the chances picks 31 and 37 end up better than Newhook? Might seem like a slight overpay but we'll find out in a few years from now.
 

Rapala

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I'm having a hard time understanding how a 22 year old Newhook, who just played his second full season is a reclamation project? You're not the first person I see mention this.

Also, by the time the 31st OA selection comes around, maybe Avs trade Newhook elsehwhere. And you miss out on a player you target and can help you much sooner than the 31st OA ever will. And not just sooner, but depending what deal Newhook is signed to, can also help you in the long term, as well.

I know not all drafts are created equal, and this year is a deep one. But you need to remember the 2019 draft was also a real good one. And getting a 16th OA pick from a really good draft and paying a 31st OA is a good move, IMO.

And for correction, Shaw was acquired on Day 1 of the draft during the 1st round. And they never traded a 1st for him. They traded two 2nds. Not a day before.
We just reclaimed a 22 year old kid who played a role on a Stanley Cup winning team...
Does that qualify as reclaimation? :sarcasm:
 

cinchronicity

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You are welcome for Lehkonen. :D
Yup! That is precisely the roadblock for Newhook here. I think Newhook will end up a better player than Lehky, but there is some sort of Finnish mind-meld between Lehkonen and Rantanen that gives the pair amazing chemistry. The volume of no-look tape to tape passes between the two is unworldly.

Personally, I would have liked to see Newhook and Lehky as wings for Rantanen as 2C. But Newhook is yours now. Montreal might have been the perfect landing spot for him.
 

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I re-watched the 2019 draft. Colorado was certainly elated to draft him. Sakic and co, we saying the speed, character and hockey sense why they picked Newhook.

Hughes must believe in Newhook. Hope he works out as well as Dach. As left shot imagine Newhook be given chance first line leftwing minutes with Suzuki and Caufield.

Hmmm.size still matters but I could see him forming a great duo with Dach
 

waitin425

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Chances are 31, 37, Mesar, Roy, Kidney, Farrell never amount to what Newhook already is.

I'm holding on for Beck, but he may not either. Let's see what MSL can do with him.

Let's get Michkov now.
 
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