Confirmed with Link: Alex Newhook for 31st, 37th and Fairbrother

[Boss Man Hughes]

Kotkaniemi is better than Newhook. His point is stupid anyway since Bergevin was GM when Kotkaniemi went to the Hurricanes.

He is NOT better than Newhook. Newhook has 70+ pt potential. I no longer believe KK does.

 

[Erika]

Stopped reading when you said KK id better than Newhook. That is ridiculous.

Kotkaniemi had 43 points in 82 games last year and developing quite nicely with the Hurricanes. He will flirt with 55-60 points as soon as next year imo. Newhook is no where close in his development curve. Things can change, but I don't see Newhook putting 60 points next year with the habs. If he does then it's a good trade, but for now it just looks like overpayment.

 

[JT3]

Was a little surprised at the price, would have preferred to not give up both those picks, but it's not the end of the world. We're overflowing with B level prospect depth.

I think people will be happier when they see Newhook, he's fast, skilled, and a bit of a bulldog. He might not be tall but he's stocky and won't back down. Players usually tend to take a step in their 3rd season and that's right where he is so it's worth the gamble.

Can you imagine how this board would have reacted back in 2019 if we ended up with all of Dach, Caufield, and Newhook? It would have been crazy, that's three guys that were ranked top 13 on Bob's list and could end up being 3 top 6 forwards. Maybe even two 1st liners (Dach and Caufield) and a 2nd liner (Newhook). All three acquired for:
2019 1st (15)
2022 3rd (66)
2023 2nd (37)
Romanov
Chiarot
Fairbrother

Not bad.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Maybe he's better suited as a winger where everything is simpler.

Gonna have little choice to maximize his value on the ice. He can do somethings okay at centre, yet you can tell even when he played with some of Colorado's better wingers, he was just not doing anything.

I dunno if putting others like Eller in the top six come playoff time was worth it. Wished Newhook did a bit more in general though. We'll see how this goes.

 

[The Real Guy Lafleur]

Since when do we care what some AV fans have to say? Stop with the stupidity please.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

If we had picks 31 & 37 in 2019 most people here would be dancing in the streets if we traded them up to get Newhook, since then he’s put up more points than everyone else picked after him and won a Cup. Very happy with the trade

 

[sampollock]

Mike J is a figland TSN guy... if the figs did this he would wet

 

[Runner77]

Look at that, even more false info coming from you

Your battle of wits with that guy is now hopping from thread to thread.

 

[TT1]

So in the deepest draft in a while you trade away a 1st and a 2nd because you have too many prospects? Roy and Beck are our top forward prospects, yeah sure. HuGo fans will buy this I don't, it smells.

Farrell? Kidney? Mesar didn't have a great year but he still has a ton of potential, Habs are loaded with prospects and picks.

 

[Milhouse40]

I feel like I felt when we got Dach last year.
I think the price was a little to high, not sure about the player, not sure it was worth it.

Gorton has that ability to get player before they breakout.
Seems to have worked with Dach too but still early.

But I have hard time getting it.
- We already had too much forwards
- We already had too much of them on the smaller size

But now we know.....That's what Hughes had to call back Winnipeg, they wanted to flip Newhook for Dubois.

 

[Vachon23]

What MTL look at before acquiring a player ? Been an ex Kent Hughes client or à being coach by him

 

[HabsEstrie]

Look at that, even more false info coming from you

Oh strange i remember distinctly you dissing the Dach acquisition

 

[BergevinBurner]

I love the move, I think he can be a 50 point guy next season if he sticks in the top 6.

And it's nice to have a fellow Newfie back on the Habs. Newhook, Allen and a 2nd could be our new Ryder, Halak and a 2nd

 

[sheed36]

Peaked as a 21-22 year old in his 2nd NHL season?

I didn't hear Johnson actually say he had peaked but I left the room for a minute. He certainly doesn't like what it cost the Habs to acquire him though for what he's shown so far.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Mike Johnson is not a huge fan of the deal.. says he should have peeked by now...

I love Johnson. But that is an absolutely dreadful take.

He should have peaked at 22 years old? What was he saying about Dach last year?

 

[JoelWarlord]

NHL stars like Sebastian Aho, Roope Hintz, Jason Robertson, Jordan Kyrou, etc. were all 2nd round picks...

Newhook is going into his D+5 season. Kyrou broke out in his D+6, Robertson in his D+5, Hintz in his D+7, Aho was the only guy that was pretty much an instant success. No, I'm not saying he's going to have that kind of jump, but 3/4 of the guys you mentioned hadn't accomplished anything more than Newhook has by this stage in their careers either, and Newhook has already made it to the NHL unlike whichever prospects we may have picked at 31 and 37.

I dunno, if Newhook had 50 points this year he wouldn't be available. There's risk involved with every trade and every draft pick, at least this trade gives us certainty that those picks have produced an NHLer.

 

[ReHabs]

Mike J is a figland TSN guy... if the figs did this he would wet

He loves the Habs and always praises the Habs.

 

[Chili]

Lol thats a good comment from Avs board:

This is highway robbery unless we actually use these picks, in which case they’ll probably be even worse than Newhook

They want to now swap the picks for immediate help, make sense.

Looking up their draft history, the last time the Avs drafted a real good player after the top ten or so was Ryan O'Reilly in 2009. Would not be surprised if they flipped one or two of those picks.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Mike Johnson is not a huge fan of the deal.. says he should have peeked by now...

The magic number is 300 games. Newhook has 159, still has 2 seasons to hit his stride AKA 24 years old.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Farrell? Kidney? Habs are loaded with prospects and picks

Exactly. They still have 9 picks this year. Their prospect pool is packed, with a lot of them turning pro this year.

 

[Barriwhite]

This is a massive overpayment imo. Kotkaniemi was also younger than Newhook when the Habs gave up on him and some of the guys here are OK with this trade but wanted Kotkaniemi out asap ? I don't understand the double standard here... I would pick Kotkaniemi over Newhook any day of the week. This feels like a panic move. The habs had 3 picks in the top 40 and now only the 5th remains in a deep draft from what I understand. NHL stars like Sebastian Aho, Roope Hintz, Jason Robertson, Jordan Kyrou, etc. were all 2nd round picks... By not having those picks, the organization give up on that potential home run. I wouldn't mind in another weaker year, but this year doesn't seems like the year to make that kind of Newhook move. This is sad... I was excited for that 2nd round this year

Agreed, except for the KK over Newhook bit.

P.S.: Are you the poster notorious for their liberal use of the emoji?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Kotkaniemi had 43 points in 82 games last year and developing quite nicely with the Hurricanes. He will flirt with 55-60 points as soon as next year imo. Newhook is no where close in his development curve. Things can change, but I don't see Newhook putting 60 points next year with the habs. If he does then it's a good trade, but for now it just looks like overpayment.

Irrelevant unless you take situations into consideration. KK was given his chance by Brind'Amour and got lots of playing time with good players. Newhook was playing for a coach who is trying to win and no prospect forwards develop under him - Jost, Compher etc.

 

[Beer and Chips]

Farrell? Kidney? Mesar didn't have a great year but he still has a ton of potential, Habs are loaded with prospects and picks.

Farrell and Kidney are bottom six.

 

[TT1]

Farrell and Kidney are bottom six.

Farrell is easily our top forward prospect

 

[Runner77]

He loves the Habs and always praises the Habs.

Johnson born and raised in Montreal and played for the Habs. He’s not a Figster through and through.