Confirmed with Link: Alex Iafallo, Rasmus Kuapri, Gabe Vilardi + 2024 2nd round pick to Winnipeg for Pierre-Luc Dubois

[fsanford]

I look at it this way, last year those 3 guys and a pick do not get you PLD.

Sell high...

 

[Bandit]

I look at it this way, last year those 3 guys and a pick do not get you PLD.

Sell high...

Rob Bleak is definitely high, that’s for damn sure.

 

[johnjm22]

PLD had 27 goals last season while most likely facing tougher quality of opponent than Vilardi. I know the 5v5 scoring stat has been bandied about on here between the two. Not taking away from Vilardi but I can't imagine him getting the same respect from opposing teams when it comes to match-ups.

Yes, but PLD also benifitted from having much better linemates.

Also, it doesn't even appear PLD was getting the toughest matchups.

PLAYER	EVEN STRENGTH GOALS	OZ START %	STRENGTH OF COMPETITION	QUALITY OF LINEMATES
Vilardi (63gp)	18​	54%​	33%​	45%​
Dubios (73gp)	16​	60%​	57%​	91%​
Iafallo (59gp)	11​	51%​	50%​	67%​

Vilardi scored more ES goal while playing less games and having worse linemate.

 

[fsanford]

Rob Bleak is definitely high, that’s for damn sure.

Nah, fans are bi-polar. Gabe had a good season, it's his only one. Hopefully he continues to have more, but he still has a lot to prove.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I can't get used to white-haired Luc.

 

[Moses Doughty]

Perhaps that player was not made available to us, CGY wont want to trade him inside the conference, that happens frequently.

Also older, a long term deal would've almost entirely been in his 30s

 

[jgs]

As a Jets fan, I must say, Cheveldayoff has an uncanny ability to get more than he should.

He traded Andrew Copp and a round 6 pick in the 2024 draft at the deadline for Morgan Barron, conditional round 1 pick in the 2022 draft (Brad Lambert), conditional round 2 pick in the 2022 draft (Elias Salomonsson) and round 5 pick in the 2023 draft.

I hope PLD continues his development and gives 100% in Los Angeles.

So Jets fan explains the obvious. Kings way overpaid for a player that likes to quit on his team.

 

[BigKing]

Yes, but PLD also benifitted from having much better linemates.

Also, it doesn't even appear PLD was getting the toughest matchups.

PLAYER	EVEN STRENGTH GOALS	OZ START %	STRENGTH OF COMPETITION	QUALITY OF LINEMATES
Vilardi (63gp)	18​	54%​	33%​	45%​
Dubios (73gp)	16​	60%​	57%​	91%​
Iafallo (59gp)	11​	51%​	50%​	67%​

Vilardi scored more ES goal while playing less games and having worse linemate.

Wasn't 33% though.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Yes, but PLD also benifitted from having much better linemates.

Also, it doesn't even appear PLD was getting the toughest matchups.

PLAYER	EVEN STRENGTH GOALS	OZ START %	STRENGTH OF COMPETITION	QUALITY OF LINEMATES
Vilardi (63gp)	18​	54%​	33%​	45%​
Dubios (73gp)	16​	60%​	57%​	91%​
Iafallo (59gp)	11​	51%​	50%​	67%​

Vilardi scored more ES goal while playing less games and having worse linemate.

How many of those ES goals came during Vilardi's first ten or games of the season?

I don't have the stats in front of me, but I know Vilardi went on an absolute tear to start the season, then basically fell off a cliff for twenty ish games, then produced at a more modest, consistent rate throughout the remainder of the year.

Vilardi is a weird player who had a weird year statistically. He could very easily become a hellacious top line RW capable of 30-30-60 like clockwork. Or he can continue to go hot and cold and in and out with injuries.

 

[johnjm22]

Wasn't 33% though.

PLD linemates were 91%.

And Vilardi played 10 less games.

Even when you account for competition, Vilardi overall still had more positive impact than him.

 

[Bandit]

Nah, fans are bi-polar. Gabe had a good season, it's his only one. Hopefully he continues to have more, but he still has a lot to prove.

Nah. Our roster is shit and the only kid we had that was doing anything was just shipped off to the land of huffing gas fumes.

 

[johnjm22]

Total WAR%

Vilardi 86%
Iafallo 64%
PLD 63%

 

[SmytheKing]

So Jets fan explains the obvious. Kings way overpaid for a player that likes to quit on his team.

Without posting a youtube video showing one 30 second shift, explain how he "likes to quit on his team".

 

[jgs]

Without posting a youtube video showing one 30 second shift, explain how he "likes to quit on his team".

Well he quit on the Blue Jackets and now wanted out of Winnipeg. I think that is quitting.

 

[Little Psycho]

I think I also hated the Fiala trade. Hoping for the best.

 

[Bandit]

Without posting a youtube video showing one 30 second shift, explain how he "likes to quit on his team".

Without acting like it’s an isolated incident, don’t act like it’s an isolated incident.

 

[SmytheKing]

Well he quit on the Blue Jackets and now wanted out of Winnipeg. I think that is quitting.

He "quit" on them by signing an extension and then they traded him to Winnipeg where he signed a one year deal and then said he wasn't going to resign at the end of that contract?

Ok. So, because he didn't want to sign a long-term deal in a city he didn't choose to go to he's a quitter?

Man folks just really like to reinvent the meaning of words I guess.

 

[Live in the Now]

Wanting off a team starting a rebuild when you're 25 is nowhere near the red flag that some people think it is. My god man is it wrong to have ambition now too. Thank you sir may I have another and sign up for years of trash while on a 70-80 point team. I'd hate to have a player who was okay with that.

 

[Kingspiracy]

I feel a bit sorry for our guys that got traded, hopefully they do well. I thought it was pretty shitty how both Vilardi's and Iafallos names were out there a day or two before the trade went down.

 

[SmytheKing]

Without acting like it’s an isolated incident, don’t act like it’s an isolated incident.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you (and most all of us) haven't watched many Blue Jacket or Jets games over the past four years when they weren't playing the Kings.

But I'm up for any players that played with him saying he didn't give his all. Would love to hear about that.

I'm looking forward to what a 30 goal and 60 point guy does when he isn't quitting though.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Jets still need to sign GV and RK - will be interesting to see what they get.. Maybe Gabe only agrees to sign a 1 yr deal? that would be funny

 

[jgs]

He "quit" on them by signing an extension and then they traded him to Winnipeg where he signed a one year deal and then said he wasn't going to resign at the end of that contract?

Ok. So, because he didn't want to sign a long-term deal in a city he didn't choose to go to he's a quitter?

Man folks just really like to reinvent the meaning of words I guess.

He should have honored the contract and informed the team that at the end of it he wouldn't resign. It is very possible that he could very well do the same thing to the Kings. Say after a year or two things are not going as he planned and tells the Kings he wants a trade because he really wants to be with Montreal. Would that be quitting in your view or just him being traded to a team he really didn't want to go to. Plus if he didn't want to go to Winnipeg he should have refused the trade and even sit out the season but he went, didn't he.

 

[johnjm22]

For all the crap that PLD gets, and it's deserved, when he was "on" and gave a shit, he was a treat to watch.

This post, from a Jets fan, basically sums up my feelings on PLD as well.

If he tries, he'll be great.

 

[AbsentMojo]

The thing Ill miss most about AI is hearing U2 after he scored.. (not that it happened that often)... that was actually pretty funny the Staples crew did that

 

[kovacro]

I think I also hated the Fiala trade. Hoping for the best.

I loved Fiala once he went to Minny. Flourished there. Was pretty happy when the Kings acquired him.

Sometimes it’s just a change of scenery and/or system/coaching staff that can get a player going.

Glad we have Fiala.

Not a fan of giving up 4 assets for PLD. Blake was bidding against himself pretty much per the media reports. Was also surprised we didn’t receive another piece or two in the deal. Harkins (reported to originally be part of the deal) would actually have been an ideal piece on the 4th line.

Hopefully this one works out. The centre depth does look quite strong.