Player Discussion Alex DeBrincat

[Golden_Jet]

He's an RFA this summer and can sign an extension with a team he is traded to.

Any team trading for DeBrincat would undoubtedly want to talk extension with him before pulling the trigger anyways, given he's 1 year away from UFA.

No idea why I put 2014/15 when I meant 2019/20 - the year his ELC was ending.

Ahh ok , you never mentioned if got traded.

 

[Korpse]

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Lol at DJ, didn't know he is a natural RW.

Why lol at DJ? He is a right handed shot who has played his career as a LW.

 

[Norris4Norris]

Debrincat has played poorly relative to his last two years. Less goals and points per game.

If he had played this year the same way he played the two years before then it would be a no-brainer extension at a big number.

I think he started smoking the reefer, being back in Canada and all, and now he can't quite see the net straight lol.

 

[JungleBeat]

I’d still sign this guy. Find a way to get him for cheap.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I think the luxury he offers is insolation post Giroux. Giroux will be 37 when his contract is ending, having DeBrincat at that point would be great (assuming his contract is fair).

Do we need Debrincat for the next two years, maybe not, but we don't have anybody in the system to replace both Giroux and DeBrincat after that. I guess Greig could fill in for one, but after that who do we have...

If we can trade him in the spring and get a first rounder back (I know, ti won't be top 10), there's a chance that pick could be the guy who will take over for Giroux a few years down the line...or used as a trade chip for a replacement.

A whole lot easier to find wingers than any other position.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

If we can trade him in the spring and get a first rounder back (I know, ti won't be top 10), there's a chance that pick could be the guy who will take over for Giroux a few years down the line...or used as a trade chip for a replacement.

A whole lot easier to find wingers than any other position.

I'd do something like Debrincat for Bjorkstrand, Seattle's first, and some solid prospect.

 

[Cosmix]

I’d still sign this guy. Find a way to get him for cheap.

$8M for 8 year term for Debrincat. If he wants more than $9M trade him asap. I hope new ownership is in place well before the draft so that managerial changes can be made. Hopefully there is one bidder who stands out as bidding the most and has very deep pockets, plus has a plan and staff lined up ready to go.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

$8M for 8 year term for Debrincat. If he wants more than $9M trade him asap. I hope new ownership is in place well before the draft so that managerial changes can be made. Hopefully there is one bidder who stands out as bidding the most and has very deep pockets, plus has a plan and staff lined up ready to go.

8M is too much given the other parameters re this team. Unfortunately I think they should move on from him. Also unfortunately they should have done it at the TDL and also unfortunately they never should have traded for him in the first place. All IMHO.

 

[aragorn]

8M is too much given the other parameters re this team. Unfortunately I think they should move on from him. Also unfortunately they should have done it at the TDL and also unfortunately they never should have traded for him in the first place. All IMHO.

My guess is because PD traded for DBC that he will re-sign him, but I would not be opposed to trading him for a good young RD with potential such as David Jiricek in Columbus. Columbus could use another point producing forward & Ottawa could use a future top 4 RD. I just don't think Ottawa has anything else that would entice Columbus to trade him.

While I think DBC is a very good player (56 pts) & could be a Giroux replacement when he leaves in a couple of yrs they also have Jarventie & Greig who could at some point also be good NHL players. Tough call but I think Jiricek would fit in Ottawa like a glove.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

My guess is because PD traded for DBC that he will re-sign him, but I would not be opposed to trading him for a good young RD with potential such as David Jiricek in Columbus. Columbus could use another point producing forward & Ottawa could use a future top 4 RD. I just don't think Ottawa has anything else that would entice Columbus to trade him.

While I think DBC is a very good player (56 pts) & could be a Giroux replacement when he leaves in a couple of yrs they also have Jarventie & Greig who could at some point also be good NHL players. Tough call but I think Jiricek would fit in Ottawa like a glove.

Dorion or someone else All depends on the offer . DBC has 9m staring him in the face and can go UFA. Dorion is most likely to double down with an 8+ offer but I hope not

 

[Loach]

Yes, it will depend on what unfolds (or if it unfolds), and the details. For example, if they raise the cap next year $2m versus the $1 m, it's not going to make such a big difference. Obviously a greater increase would open things up, but it will open up for many teams versus just us.

Just because the cap is going up in a couple years or more than expected next years, doesn't seem like a reason to overpay Debrincat. Seems like wasting future cap space. Not directed at you, just in general.

 

[DJB]

Not an 8 million dollar player.

Too many giveaways. Doesn’t get his shot off enough . If he isn’t scoring he’s not producing for the team

I’m concerned about signing him to a fat contract

 

[Adrianopolous]

He's garbage - another Bobby Ryan

 

[Sensinitis]

He's garbage - another Bobby Ryan

Your takes are garbage. Stop polluting threads

 

[bert]

8M is too much given the other parameters re this team. Unfortunately I think they should move on from him. Also unfortunately they should have done it at the TDL and also unfortunately they never should have traded for him in the first place. All IMHO.

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Not an 8 million dollar player.

Too many giveaways. Doesn’t get his shot off enough . If he isn’t scoring he’s not producing for the team

I’m concerned about signing him to a fat contract

Bingo.

 

[Alex1234]

Again
Not better than Fiala, Robertson and Connor.

At 8 MM$ he would be paid 96% of Timmy salary for 67% of his points total

He is not an 8MM$ player cap increase or not

 

[aragorn]

Ottawa with two guys over 70 pts (Tkachuk & Stutzle), one guy 3 pts from 70 (Giroux) & two guys half way to 60 pts (DBC & Batherson). Not bad.

DBC now with 56 pts & will likely finish the yr over 60 pts, that's not bad considering the number of changes to that second line all yr & playing most of the yr with a rookie centre. I wonder how much better he could have been with Norris as his centre? I think PD re-signs him because he paid so much to trade for him & he will still be around when Giroux retires in two yrs. Giroux has been great this yr with this group, great leadership on & off the ice & could also hit 70 pts before the yr is over. Not to often Ottawa has had 5 guys over 50 pts in one yr, quite rare actually.

 

[xVolchenkov]

I think he's rebounding for sure without question.

Too much pedigree and ability. We have also seen him have an off year and come back and score on pace for 50 goals and 40.

The question is:

1) Does he fit the mold of the team we are trying to have.
2) Do we want to be top-end offensive heavy.

Point 2 is like Tavares with the Leafs. Yea, another PPG weapon, cool. But assets on goaltending and D would have helped them far more.


Tkachuk-Stutzle-Batherson
Barbashev-Norris-Giroux
Formenton/Greig-Pinto-Joseph
Kelly-Kaestlic-Gauthier

Chabot-Gudas
Sanderson-Zub
Chychrun-Hamonic

Saros/Demko/Gibson

1. Not necessarily, but I think elite teams need high end players (which he is IMO) and good coaches make the most of what they have (#fireDJ).
2. While I think that it may appear that way now, our top 9 on paper last year looked amazing (sucks what happened to both Norris and Formenton). With the way that the cap is next year, it looks like that might be the hand were dealt. The cap is expected to rise quite a bit over the next few years and most of our core locked up, lots of money will be left over to fill out the bottom 6. It's much easier to fill those spots than it is to find a guy who can score 30+ for you.

I love the idea of depth (brining in a guy like Gudas would be great) but I think that losing top end talent to do so is the wrong move. Last year we were hoping to improve our top 6 (and bring in a top 4 D). We finally do so, and people want ADC (and Chabot) gone.

Giroux has been everything we could've hoped for (and more) but he isn't getting any younger. We don't really have anything internally to replace him either.

Giving up on DeBrincat would be a huge mistake IMO.

 

[HSF]

I think the 2nd line has done okay without a legit center. I don't think people understand how bad that 2C spot has been.

At this point a rookie in Greig who doesn't even look ready is a breathe of fresh air on that line

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

I'm a little worried he's a better player then he's showed this season and might return to being a 30-40 goal guy if we dont sign him.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I'm a little worried he's a better player then he's showed this season and might return to being a 30-40 goal guy if we dont sign him.

He definately will. That shooting percentage is absurdly low.

With Norris back next year though, does he still get PP time and oppurtunities to do that on this team though?

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

He definately will. That shooting percentage is absurdly low.

With Norris back next year though, does he still get PP time and oppurtunities to do that on this team though?

He's been great on the PP, so I think he still gets his opportunity there. 5 vs 5 he's been just ok.

I also think that shooting percentage will come bak up.

 

[Samsquanch]

I just can't see trading him when we could still trade Batherson if the cap gods truly demand it, imo.... he clearly has so much more to give.

Batherson for a solid $5m/per goalie + DeBrincat @ $7.5m/7yrs = A chef's kiss of perfection for me.

Norris is the super clear missing link on this team. We have no balance without having him down the middle, and our top 6 suffers badly as a whole because of it. Especially the line without the top 6 center - which is also known as "the DeBrincat line"......

And Stutzle and DeBrincat are the answer to the future imo. It's still obvious to me. And it should have been explored more this season imo.

Brady and Norris can work wonders together, and Giroux can fill in on whatever line needs the help the most while someone like Greig or Joesph gets worked in somewhere on the wing.

This team will possibly be lacking in punching power if we choose Batherson over DeBrincat imo. Gonna need a yet to be determined replacement winner to step up in a big way to be legit contenders without DeBrincat, and especially when Giroux fades imo.

 

[Keli]

Try this guy with Stu again next year.

 

[bert]

He definately will. That shooting percentage is absurdly low.

With Norris back next year though, does he still get PP time and oppurtunities to do that on this team though?

There really is no spot for him. He shouldn't even be on PP1 right now. Giroux is much better.

His skillset is redundant on this team. Getting two really good middle 6 wingers that can score and contribute in other ways would make this team much better.