If you firmly believe that everything will work out and that Dorion had a good plan, you could show us your numbers and vision of how it would work out. It's not weird at all & it's actually simple. Maybe the last sentence of your post is the most revealing. By easy you mean being able to make statements/proclamations without backing anything up.
Lol, you’re a funny guy.
I didn’t say Dorion had a ‘good plan’, nor was I saying that ‘everything will work out’, I said they would sign DBC if he wants to stay, and had that in mind when they traded for him (obviously a hot take lol). See how that’s not at all what you wrote? See how you changed that to try and be nasty? Yeah that’s you in a nutshell.
Why in the world would I need to show numbers when Puckling has already made a beautiful spreadsheet (which I have complimented a few times now), and capfriendly also has all the salary numbers anyone would need to add up a salary. Saying that I think they plan on signing DBC, and obviously considered the cap implications for such a possibility is hardly a take where I ‘need to back it up’, it’s common sense, I shouldn’t even need to say it.
We all know that the numbers are very close, but room could be made by removing any number of players, which is also all dependent on what we sign players for to begin with. These fancy spreadsheets and ‘backed up’ opinions are filled with made up numbers and suppositions, and thus are worth next to nothing beyond the enjoyment the poster had in making them.
It’s just talk, and guessing, with a bunch of salary numbers coupled with a bunch of made up salary numbers as guesstimates. That’s your ‘backing it up’ on this topic.
So again, my premise stands without me having to take the time to make up a bunch of salaries and then add them to existing salaries, then pretending to remove a salary from the team if my pretend numbers don’t fit under the cap. I’m cool with other people playing with that, but I don’t feel the need to because it isn’t anymore real than what I said.
You’ve provided nothing here besides once again piggybacking into a discussion in hopes of taking some passive aggressive jabs at me while puckling and I were being rather civil. It’s pathetic, but sadly, expected.
Now run along, I’ve spent all the time I’m going to spend on you.
Thanks for the compliment - I think? For a future year, CapFriendly only provides info about existing salaries.
I'm not sure why you think this is voodoo or pointless. It's actually pretty logical, rational and pretty straightforward. A GM or someone with the organization will be doing the same thing. Its standard business practice and all businesses do this including hockey teams.
Regarding the assumptions that you brought up, I am in fact careful to state them. But, you may have noticed, if the assumptions do not pan out, the total cap number will generally be going up versus down.
You said yourself that "the numbers are close" and that "room could be made by removing players could be removed". That was probably a good place to stop your post in my opinion.
The poster you are debating with did say something that does frame the challenge in a rather good way. If the Senators sign Debrincat to Stutzle's contract, there will be $12.6 m to sign 11 or 12 players. There is a cap constraint next year with a $83.5 m cap ceiling. Its not doom or gloom, but it's pretty obvious that not everything that we'd like to do will be able to occur. I don't see more value in having abstract discussion based on blind faith without taking into account the situation at hand and things that are more concrete.
it was absolutely a compliment, and I don’t mean to diminish your work, more to explain that the position I have taken is pretty shallow, does not challenge your work, and I personally think is common sense.
I think your work illustrates that there is work to be done to sign DBC, and Zub, which is great to create setting.
