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Player Discussion Alex DeBrincat

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So I see there's been some discussion of Saros for DeBrincat which is essentially a non-starter from our end, but are there other players on the Preds that would be of interest as all or part of a trade. Tomasino, Duchene, Fabbro, Carrier, Sissons, Schaeffer, Svechkov, EDMs 1st?
 
Predsanddead24 said:
So I see there's been some discussion of Saros for DeBrincat which is essentially a non-starter from our end, but are there other players on the Preds that would be of interest as all or part of a trade. Tomasino, Duchene, Fabbro, Carrier, Sissons, Schaeffer, Svechkov, EDMs 1st?
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It's been tossed around but I think most here know there's no deal there for Saros/DeBrincat and that Nashville is unlikely to be very interested in him either way.

I could see us visiting some of these options, other than Duchene of course, but they'll ideally need to find a destination for Cat and see what the return is first I would imagine.
 
StrakaCorvoHoffman said:
It's been tossed around but I think most here know there's no deal there for Saros/DeBrincat and that Nashville is unlikely to be very interested in him either way.

I could see us visiting some of these options, other than Duchene of course, but they'll ideally need to find a destination for Cat and see what the return is first I would imagine.
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Sorry didn't right that clearly enough. I meant any of those guys in a DeBrincat trade.
 
Predsanddead24 said:
Sorry didn't right that clearly enough. I meant any of those guys in a DeBrincat trade.
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Well in that case, definitely some interest in Tomasino, personally speaking. Sissons and Fabbro I would take as depth, but hope they wouldn't eat up much of the value of Cat. Duchene would be interesting, but I just can't see Dorion re-visiting that. Some people seem to think the Uber thing was a big deal. I don't know enough about the others to say.
 
Perhaps he'd be interesting in playing on a 1 year deal.

Would hope to have a rebound season before extending long-term and could then choose his destination as a UFA.

It's a risk. If he has another down year undoubtedly the offers from interested teams would be a lot lower, but there are some upsides to it too.

We shouldn't entertain it. If he won't extend long-term he should be traded, provided teams are completely low-balling to take advantage of the dumb situation Dorion put us in.
 
StrakaCorvoHoffman said:
Lol, wtf.

I don't get the argument. What about ownership could he be concerned about?

From the sound of the article, it makes it seem like a long term deal isn't on the table for him.
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The article also makes it sound like DeBrincat is the one who wants to sign long term with Ottawa (mentions Caufield deal as a comparable) but the team is hesitating on committing the big $$ to him.
 
StrakaCorvoHoffman said:
Lol, wtf.

I don't get the argument. What about ownership could he be concerned about?

From the sound of the article, it makes it seem like a long term deal isn't on the table for him.
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Whole article seems like a fluff piece to get some clicks, in my uneducated opinion.

It doesn't mention anything about arbitration, QO, or the possibility of not wanting to trade him because the team is in the playoffs at the deadline, then losing him for nothing as he walks to UFA.

If the team want's something for him, the draft absolutely makes, by far the most sense.

It's not the only route, of course, but it is the most logical.

The fact he's willing to talk long term with other teams is telling. Occom's razor.
 
Silencio said:
The article also makes it sound like DeBrincat is the one who wants to sign long term with Ottawa (mentions Caufield deal as a comparable) but the team is hesitating on committing the big $$ to him.
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Ya, it is completely contradictory to what else has come out around this situation.
BondraTime said:
Whole article seems like a fluff piece to get some clicks, in my uneducated opinion.

It doesn't mention anything about arbitration, QO, or the possibility of not wanting to trade him because the team is in the playoffs at the deadline, then losing him for nothing as he walks to UFA.

If the team want's something for him, the draft absolutely makes, by far the most sense.

It's not the only route, of course, but it is the most logical.

The fact he's willing to talk long term with other teams is telling. Occom's razor.
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Ya the whole article seems strange to me. Just doesn't add up and doesn't seem to address what's best for the team like you say. As if walking a guy to ufa isn't a situation teams typically try to avoid.
 
BondraTime said:
Whole article seems like a fluff piece to get some clicks, in my uneducated opinion.

It doesn't mention anything about arbitration, QO, or the possibility of not wanting to trade him because the team is in the playoffs at the deadline, then losing him for nothing as he walks to UFA.

If the team want's something for him, the draft absolutely makes, by far the most sense.

It's not the only route, of course, but it is the most logical.

The fact he's willing to talk long term with other teams is telling. Occom's razor.
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Occum's Razor. He was asked for a list of preferred destinations so he provided one.
 
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"He likes the coach a lot and loves the team," the source said. "I think he is worried that with all the guys making (big) money he may not be in their plans, but was excited to play with a healthy Josh Norris."
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That's pretty funny. Surely if DeBrincat wanted to know where he stood in Ottawa's plans he and his agent would have engaged the Senators in contract discussions on one of the numerous occasions they tried to get a dialogue started.
 
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Ouroboros said:
That's pretty funny. Surely if DeBrincat wanted to know where he stood in Ottawa's plans he and his agent would have engaged the Senators in contract discussions on one of the numerous occasions they tried to get a dialogue started.
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"Hey Alex, we'd love to discuss an 8 year extension to keep you here as part of the core."
"No thanks, I'm concerned you don't want me as part of your plan."
"Oh no... we do really want you as part of our plan, that's why we'd love to start talking about an 8-year extension..."
"Right I'm just skeptical that you want me here, so I'd rather not talk at all about any sort of contract"
"..."
"..."
"Here are 5 teams I'd want to sign with. You're not on the list but I'd love to stay just not negotiate a new contract".
 
Ouroboros said:
That's pretty funny. Surely if DeBrincat wanted to know where he stood in Ottawa's plans he and his agent would have engaged the Senators in contract discussions on one of the numerous occasions they tried to get a dialogue started.
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It's just absolute hilarity this stuff passes through
 
Gil Gunderson said:
I legitimately have no idea what any of that means. His place in the line-up?

Just be like Matthew Tkachuk, it's fine.
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"He would like to stay," the source said. "But he also knows this is the one (contract) that needs to have term in it. Like a Cole Caufield."

DeBrincat indicated at season's end he's definitely open to anything, but reportedly isn't prepared to sign long-term here – not until he sees what happens with ownership and, by extension, management and coaching. The source isn't certain if that's accurate, but it has led to speculation on social media that maybe DeBrincat and head coach D.J. Smith haven't been on the same page. According to the source, it's actually the other way around.

"He likes the coach a lot and loves the team," the source said. "I think he is worried that with all the guys making (big) money he may not be in their plans, but was excited to play with a healthy Josh Norris."
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This part is weird.

The source knows that Debrincat would like to stay.
The source knows that Debrincat loves the coach and team.
The source doesn't know if Debrincat wants to wait on new ownership before discussing an extension.

How would the source know the first two items but not the third? Fishy!
 
I got the sense from the Steve Warne article that DeBrincat was unsure that the GM/coach would stay if there are new owners. As in, a new owner could come in with a new GM, new coach and radically alter the team as constructed right now.
 
DaveMatthew said:
This part is weird.

The source knows that Debrincat would like to stay.
The source knows that Debrincat loves the coach and team.
The source doesn't know if Debrincat wants to wait on new ownership before discussing an extension.

How would the source know the first two items but not the third? Fishy!
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Puts deductive reasoning to the test!
 
slamigo said:
I got the sense from the Steve Warne article that DeBrincat was unsure that the GM/coach would stay if there are new owners. As in, a new owner could come in with a new GM, new coach and radically alter the team as constructed right now.
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This GM/coach haven't made the playoffs in how long? The positions are going to be in jeopardy regardless of who's owner.
 
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