Alec Baldwin Fatally Shoots Crewmember on Film Set

[BigBadBruins7708]

A bump can do it. If people can look past the actor's past political stances, this is a case of a negligent armorer and a terrible accident.

A bump wouldn't do it on this gun. It was a single action revolver. Which means it takes 2 motions to fire. First you have to cock the hammer, then you pull the trigger. This needs to be done for every shot.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Alec Baldwin: 'I didn't pull the trigger' of gun on 'Rust' set - CNN

Baldwin saying he never pulled the trigger.

How tf does Stephanopoulus just let him off the hook on that comment. "I didn't pull the trigger", okay so then how did the gun go off? Was it some malfunctioning with the Hammer? A hair-trigger that went off at the slightest bump but not necessarily a "pull" of the trigger? A gun doesn't just "go off".

 

[izlez]

How tf does Stephanopoulus just let him off the hook on that comment. "I didn't pull the trigger", okay so then how did the gun go off? Was it some malfunctioning with the Hammer? A hair-trigger that went off at the slightest bump but not necessarily a "pull" of the trigger? A gun doesn't just "go off".

Maybe read/watch/quote the interview instead of the preview excerpt of the interview

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Maybe read/watch/quote the interview instead of the preview excerpt of the interview

I’m currently at work and didn’t have an opportunity to watch it yet. I figured if the point was addressed in any meaningful way it would have been included in the accompanying article.

 

[Voight]

If his career is over like he suggested.... oh well. Honestly never thought he was that good of an actor to begin with.

 

[chicagoskycam]

How tf does Stephanopoulus just let him off the hook on that comment. "I didn't pull the trigger", okay so then how did the gun go off? Was it some malfunctioning with the Hammer? A hair-trigger that went off at the slightest bump but not necessarily a "pull" of the trigger? A gun doesn't just "go off".

I didn't watch the interview yet but why wasn't this expressed before that he never pulled the trigger. Maybe there is a reason in this interview but it feels like on the surface Baldwin is attempting to remove any responsibility for the death and is probably concerned about litigation.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Perhaps he could've slam fired it, but even so, carelessness isn't an excuse with firearms.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Maybe read/watch/quote the interview instead of the preview excerpt of the interview

I just finished up the interview, I agree I should have watched before commenting, so that's my bad there.

After hearing his explanation I feel as though his account of pulling the hammer back just enough to not actually cock the gun, and then letting it go, which caused the round to fire doesn't jive for me. That's a pretty small sweet spot. I think if someone is going to cock a gun they cock the gun, they don't pull it back 1/8 of an inch and hold it there. It's a very unnatural way to hold and handle a gun, especially if you're acting as a western desperado.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

I didn't watch the interview yet but why wasn't this expressed before that he never pulled the trigger. Maybe there is a reason in this interview but it feels like on the surface Baldwin is attempting to remove any responsibility for the death and is probably concerned about litigation.

Yeah, that's absolutely the vibe I got from the interview, he sounds like he's trying to shift blame for sure. I can't believe his lawyers allowed him to do this interview.

 

[Osprey]

I'm not sure that the armorer's case is helped when her own attorney releases statements like this:

She inspected the rounds that she loaded into the firearms that day. She always inspected the rounds. She did again right before handing the firearm to Mr. Halls, by spinning the cylinder and showing him all of the rounds and then handing him the firearm.

So, she personally loaded the rounds into the gun and she checked them again just before handing the gun over and neither time did she notice that they weren't the dummy rounds? Also, I believe that the rules require her to hand the gun directly to the actor... not that it would've made a difference, but an admission of not following one safety rule doesn't help your case.

 

[Jussi]

Yeah, that's absolutely the vibe I got from the interview, he sounds like he's trying to shift blame for sure. I can't believe his lawyers allowed him to do this interview.

The assistant director's attorney already said the same thing.

Attorney for 'Rust' assistant director says Alec Baldwin 'did not pull that trigger'

 

[sdf]

 

[Deen]

If his career is over like he suggested.... oh well. Honestly never thought he was that good of an actor to begin with.

Unlikely, he is going to milk this if he's not found culpable.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Him giving a dramatic interview so quickly seems disreputable to me. Him being an actor makes me trust his emotional reactions even less

 

[x Tame Impala]

I just finished up the interview, I agree I should have watched before commenting, so that's my bad there.

After hearing his explanation I feel as though his account of pulling the hammer back just enough to not actually cock the gun, and then letting it go, which caused the round to fire doesn't jive for me. That's a pretty small sweet spot. I think if someone is going to cock a gun they cock the gun, they don't pull it back 1/8 of an inch and hold it there. It's a very unnatural way to hold and handle a gun, especially if you're acting as a western desperado.

THAT is his explanation???? It sounds like a little kid telling a lie

 

[Don'tcry4mejanhrdina]

If it was a modern replica of a gun from that period, the hammer going down wouldn't fire the gun without the trigger being pulled. Newer guns are safer. The hammer can't contact the primer alone, the tigger needs to be pulled in which case another part slides up which the hammer drives into the primer. An actual old 6 shooter from that time period could fire with just the hammer slipping without a trigger pull though since the hammer directly contacts the primer. If he was practicing quick draws it's entirely possible that his thumb slipped while pulling back the hammer before it clicked in place at quarter-cocked. Is it known if the gun was in fact from that period?

He still shouldn't have been pointing it at anyone but he might not be lying about not pulling the trigger.

 

[Canucky]

If his career is over like he suggested.... oh well. Honestly never thought he was that good of an actor to begin with.

Actor? How about human being. Take no responsibility in this. Blame anyone but himself? Then lie, didn't pull the trigger? So how does one rehearse fanning a single action pistol. As Karen Baldwin claims without pulling the trigger to drop the hammer? Remember he states he was practicing drawing and cocking the hammer for a scene. But like I mentioned many times this guy can't shut his yap.

 

[chicagoskycam]

I'm sure he does feel awful about what happened and obviously, this is an accident. The interview probably comes off to some as more self-serving than apologetic. This was a friend of his and I cannot imagine how that feels plus all the negative media attention when you're dealing with a tragedy. He has to live with the fact he killed someone - and I'm sure it's taxing his family. The press is literally camped out at his house. Lost in all this is the victim and I can't tell you her name without looking it up.

That being said he did seem to become a pretentious jerk later in his career. It's easy for people to blast a guy like that.

 

[tarheelhockey]

After hearing his explanation I feel as though his account of pulling the hammer back just enough to not actually cock the gun, and then letting it go, which caused the round to fire doesn't jive for me. That's a pretty small sweet spot. I think if someone is going to cock a gun they cock the gun, they don't pull it back 1/8 of an inch and hold it there. It's a very unnatural way to hold and handle a gun, especially if you're acting as a western desperado.

Considering he's an actor who was, at that very moment, in the process of learning how to operate the hammer correctly, it wouldn't seem terribly surprising if he did something awkward or unnatural with it.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Considering he's an actor who was, at that very moment, in the process of learning how to operate the hammer correctly, it wouldn't seem terribly surprising if he did something awkward or unnatural with it.

In the interview though he was expressing how much experience he has with firearms on set over his 40 year career.
In response to George Clooney, Baldwin remarked how he has ‘handled weapons just as much as any other actor in films.’

I can’t wrap my head around why they would have been so fixated on getting just the perfect camera angle of him pulling the hammer back just enough so that it doesn’t cock the hammer into place, but could also create enough force to discharge the weapon. He claimed he was trained not to ever pull the trigger on a prop gun because it damages the firing pin, but he just lets go of the hammer instead of gently letting it down?

The way he explains the event and describes his experience with guns just seems off to me.

 

[tarheelhockey]

In the interview though he was expressing how much experience he has with firearms on set over his 40 year career.
In response to George Clooney, Baldwin remarked how he has ‘handled weapons just as much as any other actor in films.’

I can’t wrap my head around why they would have been so fixated on getting just the perfect camera angle of him pulling the hammer back just enough so that it doesn’t cock the hammer into place, but could also create enough force to discharge the weapon. He claimed he was trained not to ever pull the trigger on a prop gun because it damages the firing pin, but he just lets go of the hammer instead of gently letting it down?

The way he explains the event and describes his experience with guns just seems off to me.

Ok, I didn’t pick up on that part. Makes sense.

 

[S E P H]

Alec coming across as even a bigger villain shows how much of an echo chamber Hollywood is and how far away from reality these lot are.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Alec Baldwin's interview, even if it has no legal consequences, was awful and I can't believe they let him do that. That was gross.

 

[chicagoskycam]

There is a recent 20/20 episode on Hulu regarding the accident with excerpts from the Baldwin interview. It's pretty eye-opening overall with witness accounts from others on the scene that day. Based on the facts I don't see how Baldwin, the actor, could be liable but maybe as a producer? The armorer was also the prop master and these are typically two different jobs. She was fairly young and this may have been only her 2nd big movie. You also get to learn a lot about the victim and exactly what they were doing the day. It's also reported the camera crew was basically striking that day due to a lack of accommodations and long hours.

The thing I didn't know is dummy rounds rattle so you can tell the difference so how does the live round make it on set or in the gun.

 

[Natey]

I'm not going to judge him.

I'm sure if that was any of us, we would be going through every stage of trying to convince ourselves there was nothing we could do to prevent what happened. Whether that means making up lies, shifting blame, whatever.