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Especially if he wins the Conn Smythe, which is a very real possibility given the Knights are scoring and defending by committee.
Value of: Adin Hill - 2023 Unrestricted Free Agent
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SeanMoneyHands
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7M for 6 years to the Sens. This guy is going to get paid this summer especially if he wins the cup. He's going to get more than Keumper because he's younger.
WarriorofTime
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The save in the 2nd period likely get him an extra $1.5 million per.
Thechozen1
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Think this makes sense for Buffalo. They're still kinda in the rebuild phase so do you really want to be giving up 1sts for like Hellebuyck.
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Sold! I hate goalie shopping, because as voodoo as it is all the guys we’ve tried have just stayed bad. Might as well try a guy who played well for a solid stretch.
Wait, think we did that with Hutton. Ah well, if the price is decent he might not be the worst choice.
Darcy kuemper was already an established above average #1 goalie in his career. He isn't getting anywhere close to 7×6 and that'd be a terrible contract to whoever offered it. He's behind a great defensive team. Look at the difference in grubauer with Colorado great defense to a lesser defense in Seattle.
He does have okay career numbers. I'll say 4×4 or 3x5mil
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Yeah if he keeps up his play I would think the ask would be somewhere between what Binnington got as a 25yo RFA, and what Kuemper got as a 27yo UFA.
So his agent would probably be salivating at the thought of a 4 year 20M deal on the open market.
Vegas playing style and defensive structure is kind to goaltenders. Put Adin Hill on the Oilers and he would be exposed like Jeff Skinner.
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Except there's a massive difference. Hill is posting a .930SV% since taking over for Brossaot and he's been very very good for Vegas. Has kept them in it many times. Whereas Kemper leeched off an all star Blueline and posted some of the worst stats ever for a cup winning goalie.
No way Vegas is even gets past Edmonton, let alone the cup final if Brossaot never got injured.
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I think Jeff Skinner would be exposed on any team if you’re playing him as a goalie.
I don't know. Brossoit has looked insane behind Vegas defence at times too at end reg season and in the Winnipeg series and Skinner was trash for the oilers either way. I do think hebgave better chance.
But overall, I think giving a guy a contract because he won a cup is a stupid investment. It's a team game and playoffs are random. Bobrovsky has looked like trash in playoffs when he was in prime of his career and now on downside of his career has been elite in playoffs. It's just regular ups and downs like the regular season, notnif a guy is playoff goalie.
I think hill is combination of great defense and just on a hot streak.
But guy like halak, darling, Murray binnington oettinger last year and others have all had hotnstreaks before in playoffs and it wasn't indicative of how rest of career would be.
Hill has a career .910 sv% while he played on some lesser teams than Vegas previously. Solid but not amazing. Hes also had many injury problems the last 2 years. His style of positional goaltending with size should hild up as long as he has silid defense built around him. I think he should be looked at in market as a 1a at most though. He definitely shouldn't be treated as a top 5 goalie in the league based off a small sample playoff run.
I'd also like to add that kuemper played fine in the first series til his eye got poked out. Even though he returned to playing the next series, he eventually sat out another game due to his eye bothering him and having had swelling the whole time.
I don't think it's far fetched to think his play suffered agzernthat first series because he wasn't seeing 100% due to brusing and swelling at that just seeing puck a1/10th of a second later is a major difference in being able to react on time.
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Kuemper got 5.25x5 after winning a cup and having 3 times the games played compared to Hill. I could see hill getting 4x3.
Jack Campbell seems like the high end of what he could make. Probably an unwise move for a team but you never know.
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He’s played well but let’s not forget the coach and system he’s playing in. All 5-6 goalies Vegas played this year had bloated stats. They force everything outside. Much easier on a goaltender. It’s just not the easiest thing to do without 6 quality dmen.
He’s likely NOT going back to Vegas. Some team is going to give him more than they will. They’ll just go back to Thompson next year.
He’ll get a job as a 1B because of this 10 game stretch and his stats this year. Although he likely reverts back to what we’ve seen before.
Unless he just decides to stay in Vegas and share the net with Thompson on the cheap. Meaning a 3 year deal at around $2.5. He’ll get $4 on the open market now.
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Are you nuts. Id like to get him on that sens but that contract is ridiculous. Id go 4 million for 3 years.
Dude, your 10,000 posts into this forum and you came up with a take like this?
LMFAO?
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Well, he also didn't play well really until his 4th year over here, regardless of them having Belfour.
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He has played all of 12 playoff games. One bad game and that save percentage takes a big hit. No way a guy on a good team who played only 27 games during the season is getting a big money deal, Cup or no Cup. At best he gets a 3 or 4 year (3-4.5m per year range) deal which will likely be a regrettable deal for whoever gives it to him as UFA's always get more money than they should and the goalie market is thin.
Much more likely he gets a 2-3 year deal in the 2.5-3.5 range.
His sv% was above league average all 3 years of his first years as well as gaa below league average. Mid .880s sv% and was the average back then which started finally increasing in 94.
For hill i'm sure a team will give him 4.5M for 6 Years or 6M for 3 years. All depend what he wants
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As a comparable, Michael Leighton's rise from 3rd stringer to SCF starter as a 27YO impending UFA earned him an around 2.5x raise in AAV (to what was 2.61% of the cap at the time) for two years the day before he was to become a UFA.
For Hill, the same raise would put him above 5.5M. The % of cap however, puts him at around $4.75M. That's the same AAV the Wings gave Husso for 3 years last summer, with Husso having a much shorter resume than Hill.
To me, $4-5M for 2 or 3 years seems to make sense.
For Hill, the same raise would put him above 5.5M. The % of cap however, puts him at around $4.75M. That's the same AAV the Wings gave Husso for 3 years last summer, with Husso having a much shorter resume than Hill.
To me, $4-5M for 2 or 3 years seems to make sense.
