Adam Johnson passed away after accident during game - Mod edit: Do not post the incident in the forum

[Buddy Bizarre]

I only play hockey in my birthday suit. I will not be restrained

Coincidently, I only fry bacon on the stove in my birthday suit.
It's a tradition in my house

 

[Ugene Magic]

I only play hockey in my birthday suit. I will not be restrained

Coincidently, I only fry bacon on the stove in my birthday suit.
It's a tradition in my house

Think of the children....

"I don't want to look..."

 

[heysmilinstrange]

There's a pretty good article on The Athletic about Adam Johnson and his memorial service, including a great story about how he was signed by the Penguins:

During development camp with the Penguins after his sophomore year of college, Adam met with Guerin and Penguins development coach Mark Recchi. They told him they loved him but to go back to school, have a great junior year and they’d be waiting to sign him after that season.

Guerin then returned to the stands. Hall of Famer and Penguins owner Mario Lemieux walked up to Guerin and asked, “Who’s that kid?”

He was pointing at Adam.

Guerin said, “That’s Adam Johnson. Beautiful skater, isn’t he? We’re going to send him back to UMD and sign him after the year.”

Lemieux said, “Well, you probably shouldn’t let him leave the building.”

Guerin responded, “Are you serious?”

Lemieux said, “Yeah, we need to sign guys like that.”

Guerin and Recchi went back downstairs, grabbed Adam when he left the ice and told him, “We understand we just told you we’re sending you back, but things have changed. Mind coming upstairs and meeting with a small group of us?”

Adam showered, changed and walked into a room. That “small group” was Guerin, Recchi, coach Mike Sullivan, CEO David Morehouse, general manager Jim Rutherford and none other than Mario Lemieux.

When Super Mario tells you he wants to sign you, you sign.

 

[Jacob]

Why not leave it up to the players? They know the risk and they’re grown men who should be free to make their own health/risk decisions.

Should any protective equipment be mandatory?

 

[Smoke]

Should any protective equipment be mandatory?

Nope, because freedumbs.

 

[The Old Master]

Should any protective equipment be mandatory?

if not, it would be a good way to improve the gene pool.

 

[Jacob]

Ancient olympics and probably a lot of gladiatorial battles were fully nude.

 

[blindpass]

You keep saying this, but I'm not "that" emotional. I'm calling it as I see it. You see something else, trying to wipe away him having any intent or culpability at all. You want to wipe away even that. Just skates clipping and "Freak Accident".

His actions is he intended to engage AJ. That was no accident. His actions just ended up being the end result in a poor choice/reach of a play that wasn't there for him. He choose to change his path, nobody else. You can keep turning a blind eye and live life behind plausibility's. He reached and caused a death. Say that a few times.

I'm not looking to condemn him the person, just his hockey career. Only AJ's family has the right to take it further. They have a case. His actions/recklessness caused his death. Even you can't explain that away with plausibility's.

Fair enough, I can't say anything about your emotionality but the responses on YouTube, Twitter, etc where the vast majority are sure they can read his intentions seem very emotional on the whole.

Yes, he intended to engage AJ. That alone isn't reprehensible, it's an expected part of the game. Whether it was reckless or not needs to be determined by a sober analysis, not amateur rage.

I doubt he'll play again whether he's allowed to or not, but if it is ruled an accident and not reckless then there's no rain that shouldn't be his choice.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Should any protective equipment be mandatory?

It's called a slippery slope, and you think most would have learned from recent history the dangers of such........ nope.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Ancient olympics and probably a lot of gladiatorial battles were fully nude.

First time in this thread. Not quite what I expected

 

[Ugene Magic]

Fair enough, I can't say anything about your emotionality but the responses on YouTube, Twitter, etc where the vast majority are sure they can read his intentions seem very emotional on the whole.

Yes, he intended to engage AJ. That alone isn't reprehensible, it's an expected part of the game. Whether it was reckless or not needs to be determined by a sober analysis, not amateur rage.

I doubt he'll play again whether he's allowed to or not, but if it is ruled an accident and not reckless then there's no rain that shouldn't be his choice.

It doesn't really matter, things get swept under the rug all the time, I doubt anything coming from any investigation will ever put his family to to rest, unless some form of culpability is reached.

People just need to remember that this is a game and some of the lack of respect to other players and their well being is real in their cause to succeed.

 

[blindpass]

It doesn't really matter, things get swept under the rug all the time, I doubt anything coming from any investigation will ever put his family to to rest, unless some form of culpability is reached.

People just need to remember that this is a game and some of the lack of respect to other players and their well being is real in their cause to succeed.

You keep repeating the same assumption.

We don't find culpability because somebody needs it, but because it is warranted. Sometimes shit happens and there's nobody to blame.

 

[nORRis8]

Saw the video today for the first time without hearing other than that Johnson died.
I looked at how the contact happened and many of us had to look at it again and again and again....
That did not look right to call it an accident.

Then I looked up some news items that are recent. Looks like I'm not the only one.

 

[66-30-33]

Saw the video today for the first time without hearing other than that Johnson died.
I looked at how the contact happened and many of us had to look at it again and again and again....
That did not look right to call it an accident.

Then I looked up some news items that are recent. Looks like I'm not the only one.

Was not an accident. The death was an accident but he was going for a hit but turned into worst case scenario.

 

[nORRis8]

Was not an accident. The death was an accident but he was going for a hit but turned into worst case scenario.

The intent may not have been to kill another person but rather to do something shocking or plain stupid to make a point. It was obvious he wanted to make contact with his skate. The throat was the worse case scenario.
That being said ...he's accountable for his actions. A life, a son, a father, husband was taken from his family plus friends.

 

[Fordy]

the hockey media and social media has made it clear the matter is settled. feelings of the family or random posters aren’t really relevant anymore

 

[Kristopher Letang]

Adam Johnson: Manslaughter arrest over ice hockey player's death

A man is held in connection with the death of Nottingham Panthers player Adam Johnson.

www.bbc.com

 

[Ugene Magic]

Adam Johnson: Manslaughter arrest over ice hockey player's death

A man is held in connection with the death of Nottingham Panthers player Adam Johnson.

www.bbc.com

But... but...

the hockey media and social media has made it clear the matter is settled. feelings of the family or random posters aren’t really relevant anymore

 

[spcastlemagic]

Yeah… I only watched the video once but what stood out to me is how after watching thousands of games I’ve never seen somebody’s leg fly up like that before. I have no idea how their legal system works over there so I don’t know what this all means, but I’m not terribly surprised they didn’t immediately write off as a “freak accident.”

 

[Ryder71]

Ancient olympics and probably a lot of gladiatorial battles were fully nude.

I was a witness to that so yeah, it was a hoot.

Adam Johnson: Manslaughter arrest over ice hockey player's death

A man is held in connection with the death of Nottingham Panthers player Adam Johnson.

www.bbc.com

Pretty ridiculous, it was a freak accident. My Lord!

 

[66-30-33]

Yeah… I only watched the video once but what stood out to me is how after watching thousands of games I’ve never seen somebody’s leg fly up like that before. I have no idea how their legal system works over there so I don’t know what this all means, but I’m not terribly surprised they didn’t immediately write off as a “freak accident.”

Nobody has done it the way Petgrave did it but skates have been high up in the air like MacKinnon on Graves and last playoffs I believe someone posted a tweet of Jack Hughes hitting a rut or something and flipping in the air pretty much.

As for him getting arrested...I have no complaints. He did kill someone afterall, even if he didn't mean to do it. You need to be responsible for your actions regardless. Imagine killing someone accidently and getting away with it...wtf?

 

[Fordy]

But... but...

i would hope the extreme sarcasm was obvious, unless someone never steps outside of the total echo chambers that shut down anyone even attempting to say there was something more going on here, they really have no excuse for believing they wouldn't at least consider bringing some kind of charges here

 

[Ryder71]

Nobody has done it the way Petgrave did it but skates have been high up in the air like MacKinnon on Graves and last playoffs I believe someone posted a tweet of Jack Hughes hitting a rut or something and flipping in the air pretty much.

As for him getting arrested...I have no complaints. He did kill someone afterall, even if he didn't mean to do it. You need to be responsible for your actions regardless. Imagine killing someone accidently and getting away with it...wtf?

I couldn't disagree more, there's no way that the guy had any intention of doing that. Also, there hasn't been a precedent set to define what actually should or shouldn't happen. But to prosecute the guy seems rather ridiculous. We could play another 50 years of hockey and that sorta thing wouldn't happen again.

 

[Ugene Magic]

i would hope the extreme sarcasm was obvious, unless someone never steps outside of the total echo chambers that shut down anyone even attempting to say there was something more going on here, they really have no excuse for believing they wouldn't at least consider bringing some kind of charges here

I'll admit this one, if true, went over my head.

 

[Fordy]

I'll admit this one, if true, went over my head.

i am pretty pissed but obviously not surprised at the main board here and the reddit etc not even allowing the story of what the family said to be posted. only someone who decided that isn't relevant and shouldn't be allowed could be surprised at him being arrested. and yet, apparently so many are. but that's been par for the course on both sites for ages now. somehow i don't know anyone irl that thought that video was totally above board, but i guess a bunch of people convinced themselves that since the wrong people believed the other thing, they could alter reality by closing their eyes and getting mad at everyone who disagreed