Prospect Info: Adam Engstrom

[Wats]

Very impressive. He still has one more year on his SHL contract so it's either Montreal or Sweden next year for him. At 19 turning 20, likely Sweden.

Here's hoping he builds on this season, avoids major injuries, and becomes a regular top 2/4 D next season in SHL. 20-25 points as a 20 year would be amazing.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Reg season + playoffs, Engstrom scored 21 pts in 52 games
Edvinsson who was a 6th overall pick scored 21 pts in 49 games in his d+1 season

 

[montreal]

Elite Prospects - SHL Stats All-time totals

All-time/historical playoffs stats and leaders for SHL, including top goal scorers, most games played, PPG leaders and more.

www.eliteprospects.com

This shows where he ranks all time among U-22 blueliners in SHL playoff history. PPG wise he's much higher up the list

 

[DAChampion]

I wouldnt be surprised if he ended up top 20 in a re-draft 3-4 yrs from now.

Where was he in your final ranking?

Where do you see you former #9,10 in Mesar and Wright ending up?

 

[DinosaurBones]

Gustav Forsling is a pretty solid comparable, for me atleast, in almost every category. When it comes to play coming out of draft year, in Sweden. Fors coming into his own last year when he was 25, and become a solid D. I think the timeline could be very similar with the same ish results, if all goes well. He wont play games in the NHL as fast as Forsling especially with our depth, but the end result once reaching the age of 25-26 could be similar.
Stat watchers specially might like to know that he is above Forsling for age/stat comparison in most areas.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Elite Prospects - SHL Stats All-time totals

All-time/historical playoffs stats and leaders for SHL, including top goal scorers, most games played, PPG leaders and more.

www.eliteprospects.com

This shows where he ranks all time among U-22 blueliners in SHL playoff history. PPG wise he's much higher up the list

oh wow Norlinder's up there. Wonder if there's still hope for him. As much as there was over hype, interesting to see if he could ever crack our top 6. He still has intriguing tools.

 

[FrankMTL]

oh wow Norlinder's up there. Wonder if there's still hope for him. As much as there was over hype, interesting to see if he could ever crack our top 6. He still has intriguing tools.

My issue with Norlinder is that there hasn't been much progression over the last 2 seasons....Normally that's not a good sign.

 

[CheldishGamibno]

oh wow Norlinder's up there. Wonder if there's still hope for him. As much as there was over hype, interesting to see if he could ever crack our top 6. He still has intriguing tools.

I don't really notice him on the Rocket. Not necessarily a bad thing but he's far from being the offensive "dynamo", lacks IQ to be a NHL regular

 

[montreal]

oh wow Norlinder's up there. Wonder if there's still hope for him. As much as there was over hype, interesting to see if he could ever crack our top 6. He still has intriguing tools.

of course there is, why wouldn't it as it's not like his skill disappeared, defensemen take longer to develop and he's had a slower development in NA then I would have liked. If I'm Hughes I think he's got a really tough decision as to the future of Laval and who should be coaching down there as I like the progress Norlinder has made defensively, so I guess putting him on the PK worked out to some degree, but I can't begin to understand how any coach looks at Norlinder and thinks yea take him off the PP put put him on the PK.

My issue with Norlinder is that there hasn't been much progression over the last 2 seasons....Normally that's not a good sign.

according to whom though, and last year was f***ed between how he was handled and then missing time going back and forth, injuries didn't help either. Last year he played 38 games in the reg season between the NHL, AHL, SHL and Champions league so hard to compare in that kind of situation vs this year where he's played 59 games in the AHL now.

when he started this season he was on the PP and picked up 5 pts in the first 11 games. Then he puts up 2 pts in the next 27 games, since then he's got 9 pts in the last 21 games. So what happened to him that caused him to get just 2 pts in 27 games? In just about half a season he's had 2 pts and the other half 14 pts so which player is he? We'll see soon enough.

 

[Tyson]

of course there is, why wouldn't it as it's not like his skill disappeared, defensemen take longer to develop and he's had a slower development in NA then I would have liked. If I'm Hughes I think he's got a really tough decision as to the future of Laval and who should be coaching down there as I like the progress Norlinder has made defensively, so I guess putting him on the PK worked out to some degree, but I can't begin to understand how any coach looks at Norlinder and thinks yea take him off the PP put put him on the PK.




according to whom though, and last year was f***ed between how he was handled and then missing time going back and forth, injuries didn't help either. Last year he played 38 games in the reg season between the NHL, AHL, SHL and Champions league so hard to compare in that kind of situation vs this year where he's played 59 games in the AHL now.

when he started this season he was on the PP and picked up 5 pts in the first 11 games. Then he puts up 2 pts in the next 27 games, since then he's got 9 pts in the last 21 games. So what happened to him that caused him to get just 2 pts in 27 games? In just about half a season he's had 2 pts and the other half 14 pts so which player is he? We'll see soon enough.

I have no inside information and am purely speculating-
Norlinder and the AHL coaches were given a mandate to help him improve defensively. Anthony Marcotte constantly praises Norlinder for his defense. He kills penalties and has played some solid hockey. I do think he should be on the PP as well though.
I would not write off Norlinder yet.

 

[FrankMTL]

of course there is, why wouldn't it as it's not like his skill disappeared, defensemen take longer to develop and he's had a slower development in NA then I would have liked. If I'm Hughes I think he's got a really tough decision as to the future of Laval and who should be coaching down there as I like the progress Norlinder has made defensively, so I guess putting him on the PK worked out to some degree, but I can't begin to understand how any coach looks at Norlinder and thinks yea take him off the PP put put him on the PK.




according to whom though, and last year was f***ed between how he was handled and then missing time going back and forth, injuries didn't help either. Last year he played 38 games in the reg season between the NHL, AHL, SHL and Champions league so hard to compare in that kind of situation vs this year where he's played 59 games in the AHL now.

when he started this season he was on the PP and picked up 5 pts in the first 11 games. Then he puts up 2 pts in the next 27 games, since then he's got 9 pts in the last 21 games. So what happened to him that caused him to get just 2 pts in 27 games? In just about half a season he's had 2 pts and the other half 14 pts so which player is he? We'll see soon enough.

I have a hard time with his lack of consistency…that’s always been my issue with him. He shows flashes of talent and then disappears. At 22 years old (going on 23 in a few weeks) he needs to improve dramatically if he wants a chance of being an NHL regular. He’s been passed on the depth chart by a few players…Heck, even William Trudeau has been better than him this season as a 20 year old.

 

[montreal]

I have no inside information and am purely speculating-
Norlinder and the AHL coaches were given a mandate to help him improve defensively. Anthony Marcotte constantly praises Norlinder for his defense. He kills penalties and has played some solid hockey. I do think he should be on the PP as well though.
I would not write off Norlinder yet.

It's possible as he is an offensive D that clearly had issues in his own end. I haven't had time to catch that many games this year due to having so many prospects to cover but I have liked what i've seen from Norlinder and clearly he's improved a lot defensively but still does that shit where he skates towards the puck at half speed for some unknown f***ing reason only to turn it on if someone gets close. I don't like that, like what the f*** why not skate harder then as he clearly can. But I noticed that shit happening a lot early on and now not so much.

My question if I'm Hughes and it's a really tough one, but is he happy with the job the coaching staff have done in Laval especially on defense this year. On one hand you look at Trudeau and think he's been a real nice surprise with the production and all considering many like myself thought he would be back in the Q this year or 3R if not. On the other hand he's still making way too many mistakes, this late in the season that's not a good sign, not so much for him but the coaching staff imo as you see the same with Beaudin although I'm not too impressed with him.

When you look at that blueline at least on paper, I feel bad for Primeau as that has got to be a real tough defense to play behind with everything that was going on with injuries, call ups.

I have a hard time with his lack of consistency…that’s always been my issue with him. He shows flashes of talent and then disappears. At 22 years old (going on 23 in a few weeks) he needs to improve dramatically if he wants a chance of being an NHL regular. He’s been passed on the depth chart by a few players…Heck, even William Trudeau has been better than him this season as a 20 year old.

hard to get consistency when you go from the SHL to the NHL to the AHL to the NHL back to the AHL, then SHL again. Once he was healthy he dominated in the playoffs.

So then you have this year, I wish I could speak to what happened for him to get 2 pts in 27 games there other then being taken of the PP which explains some but no where near enough because a player with his skill should never get just 2 pts in 27 games, although I would have bet everything I own that no way in the world would Caufield get only 1 goal in the NHL until Dom got canned. I still can't wrap my head around that one.

 

[Tyson]

I have a hard time with his lack of consistency…that’s always been my issue with him. He shows flashes of talent and then disappears. At 22 years old (going on 23 in a few weeks) he needs to improve dramatically if he wants a chance of being an NHL regular. He’s been passed on the depth chart by a few players…Heck, even William Trudeau has been better than him this season as a 20 year old.

I like Trudeau but he isn't better than Norlinder. He is much younger and has the ability to become better but he isn't there yet. Trudeau makes alot of careless plays which is a given for a first year pro.

 

[Goldenhands]

Where was he in your final ranking?

Where do you see you former #9,10 in Mesar and Wright ending up?

Engstrom was an unknown for me and for alot of people obviously. Wright I had him at 10, 2-way 2nd line center was my projection, he improved his motor and all around game, he is more enjoyable to watch this year, but I still think he projects as a 2nd line center and Im pretty happy with Dach and Slafkovsky TBH, Mesar I ended up ranking him at 9 since I really liked his tools, he is having an underwhelming D+1 season, but I still think he has much more to show up, time will tell if I ranked him too high or not. No one will hit for .1000 since drafting isnt an exact science, you try to make projections from what you see and foresee with the ressources you have.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I wouldn't be surprised if they sign him this off-season, only to ensure he's eligible to come over to join Laval after his season in Sweden is done. And then no longer being under contract there, he can stay here in North America. That's what I would do at least.

And I think because of his signing age, his contract can slide. But I'm not 100% sure how that rule works.

I don't think Engstrom's contract would slide if he plays mostly in Laval and less than 10 NHL games, because he will be 20 by Dec 31 2023.

According to the Transfer agreement with Sweden/IIHF, Engstrom cannot be assigned to Laval if under contract to Rogle, unless he starts the season in Montreal and is only sent down after a certain date - I think it is Dec 15th but not sure.

 

[tazsub3]

of course there is, why wouldn't it as it's not like his skill disappeared, defensemen take longer to develop and he's had a slower development in NA then I would have liked. If I'm Hughes I think he's got a really tough decision as to the future of Laval and who should be coaching down there as I like the progress Norlinder has made defensively, so I guess putting him on the PK worked out to some degree, but I can't begin to understand how any coach looks at Norlinder and thinks yea take him off the PP put put him on the PK.




according to whom though, and last year was f***ed between how he was handled and then missing time going back and forth, injuries didn't help either. Last year he played 38 games in the reg season between the NHL, AHL, SHL and Champions league so hard to compare in that kind of situation vs this year where he's played 59 games in the AHL now.

when he started this season he was on the PP and picked up 5 pts in the first 11 games. Then he puts up 2 pts in the next 27 games, since then he's got 9 pts in the last 21 games. So what happened to him that caused him to get just 2 pts in 27 games? In just about half a season he's had 2 pts and the other half 14 pts so which player is he? We'll see soon enough.

To answer your question, only a coach in the mold of Mb dinos. Houle has to go, he has nothing in common with our future thinking current management

 

[Habaddict]

I dont think so, he was a standout during camp until he got hurt, had a better camp than Ylonen who had 2 AHL seasons under his belt and 2 yrs older. Heineman's game is suited for N.A. hockey.

Yeah but Ylonen was a slow Developer. He seems
hopefully, to have finally put it all together.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

To answer your question, only a coach in the mold of Mb dinos. Houle has to go, he has nothing in common with our future thinking current management

Ahh the famous argument that because Houle was hired by MB he is trash, forgetting that players are all developing well and that there is no argument based in reality for making such an accusation.

How i missed it. It had been too long.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[morhilane]

HV71 sound like a virus, lol.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

He did spend decent time with them during the season, I'm sure they'd be glad to have him !

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

I still think NHL rinks should be enlarged a little.

Somewhere between current NHL size and Olympic size.

Would give a little more space for stars to do their thing and make transition of Euro/Scand players easier.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I still think NHL rinks should be enlarged a little.

Somewhere between current NHL size and Olympic size.

Would give a little more space for stars to do their thing and make transition of Euro/Scand players easier.

Good luck telling the holders of the most expensive season tickets all over the league that they will now be seated on the ice and need to wear armour.

 

[ottawa]

Good luck telling the holders of the most expensive season tickets all over the league that they will now be seated on the ice and need to wear armour.

Obviously the front row season tickets would still hold front row tickets. There would be less tickets in the 300s but you can increase the prices across the arena to recoup the missing revenue.

I disagree though, keep the rink the same size.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Detroit signed Wallinder, so Engstrom playing higher up/more ice time should almost be a given next season