Post-Game Talk: A tale of two teams

[snowkiddin]

Too many negative comments. A win in the next game recaptures home ice advantage. Jets have outshot the Knights in each of the three games in the series. Don't let all the Toronto biased commentators get you down. I fully expect a win Friday and again on Sunday.

Go Jets Go.

Yup exactly. Call me a homer all you want but the third period gave me hope. Vegas was holding on for dear life and was lucky to win. If we play like that ALL GAME Vegas is toast. The key is playing like that all game.

 

[PhilJets]

I call split up Schiefele and wheeler

But i am not a coach and those 2 together got the Jets where they are right now.
Along with Laine 44 goal in the 2nd unitall year.

As Maurice said.
He will ride with the boys who got them here.
So Go JETS Go.

If we score a goal.
Best is to call a time out right away hahaha.

 

[FFHockey]

Tanev was fine. You try to score goals 5-on-5 with Laine trying to forecheck with the front third of his stick blade.

D
Tanev was not even close to being the problem on that line. But I too was puzzled with that move by Mo.

The young fella (29) has actually been a liability, I get he’s young and all, but man does his overall game need lots of improvement. I’m sure he’ll get there, but I’m not feeling as confident as I once did after watching him over the last while.

 

[Turin]

One big positive here: Jets may have realized that third period that dealing with Vegas’ trap is different than Nashville’s trap, because Fleury is not a good puck handler (I’m a Penguins fan primarily so I know that all too well). That forecheck was much better than it had been in the third, so hopefully that keeps up.

 

[tntkid]

I admit that it is getting really tough to defend the players that have not shown up in this series and all playoffs long.

We need to win as a team and everyone needs to contribute equally to have success.

Ehlers did about as much sitting out as he has done through out the playoff's!

All this way "too negative" crap is just that, team needs to be called out when they only show up once again for 30 minutes.

Way too many Jets AWOL and MIA

 

[Turin]

D
Tanev was not even close to being the problem on that line. But I too was puzzled with that move by Mo.

The young fella (29) has actually been a liability, I get he’s young and all, but man does his overall game need lots of improvement. I’m sure he’ll get there, but I’m not feeling as confident as I once did after watching him over the last while.

I wonder if he ever shortens his stick. It makes his shot a cheat code but holy hell does it limit his control.

 

[Wedgeden]

I was at work and missed the game.
Social media is all over Enstrom tonight. Did he have that bad of a game?

 

[PhilJets]

D
Tanev was not even close to being the problem on that line. But I too was puzzled with that move by Mo.

The young fella (29) has actually been a liability, I get he’s young and all, but man does his overall game need lots of improvement. I’m sure he’ll get there, but I’m not feeling as confident as I once did after watching him over the last while.

Sorry was he the young fella who gave costly mistakes to give up back breaking goals?

Yeah Laine is not living up to most people huge expectation (yet).
But all throughout the playoffs.

Schiefele
Stastny
Buff
Myers
Were the difference maker in positive side
Then Laine.

 

[Daximus]

I will repeat what I have said since before game 1. We don't skate for 60 minutes. We don't win. Two lazy periods cost us. We chose to do the same we might as well kiss this series good bye. Almost 40 minutes of bullshit effort. We can't just jump alive in the 3rd and hope things will be hunky f***ing dory. Wake up assholes. We may not get here again in a long time. This is a 31 team league soon to be 32. Your cutesy efforts will be worth jack shit when the next big team springs up. Wake up. Play like this is the only shot you will ever get at a Cup in your lifetime. Play like you want to f***ing be here. That's all I ask. Do the opposite and I won't hesitate you call out your horseshit play. This isn't the start of a Dynasty don't kid yourselves Jets fans. This might be f***ing it. This might be our shot. We aren't worth shit. We haven't proven shit. Two years from now no one remembers who finished 2nd in a conference final. Shit, no one gives a flying rats f*** who finished 2nd in a SC final. We have one chance to change our destiny as a team. This is the only f***ing chance that has presented itself. Win or die. Simple as that. Win or f***ing die.

 

[Turin]

Sorry was he the young fella who gave costly mistakes to give up back breaking goals?

Yeah Laine is not living up to most people huge expectation (yet).
But all throughout the playoffs.

Schiefele
Stastny
Buff
Myers
Were the difference maker in positive side
Then Laine.

He would have to get the puck and do something with it in order to make a mistake like Connor, who despite the lapses skated and contributed to the forechek. Laine is simply ineffective right now, primarily because he can’t keep up.

 

[PhilJets]

He would have to get the puck and do something with it in order to make a mistake like Connor, who despite the lapses skated and contributed to the forechek. Laine is simply ineffective right now, primarily because he can’t keep up.

So its pass for connor?

Talk about bias there

Laine plays up high most of the time to cover up pinching defense.

Laine is not playing to the huge expectation yet despite putting up better numbers and had direct impact on the Jets 3 out of 9 wins.

When we put a blame one we should do the same for the other.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

That was a rough night..

Many guys have to bring more. Laine for one.I thought Connor made some huge mistakes in the second....

I thought Trouba and Morrissey were rough in the first.

CLA need to finish...

Helle can't make puck handling mistakes like that....

Why is Tanev on the second line...

 

[Turin]

So its pass for connor?

Talk about bias there

Laine plays up high most of the time to cover up pinching defense.

Laine is not playing to the huge expectation yet despite putting up better numbers and had direct impact on the Jets 3 out of 9 wins.

When we put a blame one we should do the same for the other.

I’d rather have a young player make mistakes with the puck trying to manufacture offense than a young player who does literally nothing at ES, yes. It’s not a pass, it’s a preference. I bought my Laine jersey today, I’m a big fan, but he’s hurting the 2nd line.

 

[White Out 902]

We're not going to win the Cup by playing 20 or 30 minutes again. Never mind get past Vegas. If this is how they're going to play from here on out I'd rather have my heartbroken in the west final than the Stanley Cup Final.


With that out of the way I do hope that the leadership of this team kick some asses and gets this back on track

 

[Turin]

We're not going to win the Cup by playing 20 or 30 minutes again. Never mind get past Vegas. If this is how they're going to play from here on out I'd rather have my heartbroken in the west final than the Stanley Cup Final.


With that out of the way I do hope that the leadership of this team kick some asses and gets this back on track

Part of it is being shell shocked. Teams have hard times starting on the road against that atmosphere, it gets exacerbated when the first shot goes in. When you get a bounce and tie it and you’re down 10 seconds again later.. it’s just hard to play your game.

 

[robertocarlos]

How is Fleury not suspended for the wet willie?

 

[PhilJets]

I’d rather have a young player make mistakes with the puck trying to manufacture offense than a young player who does literally nothing at ES, yes. It’s not a pass, it’s a preference. I bought my Laine jersey today, I’m a big fan, but he’s hurting the 2nd line.

You know Connor mistake was a huge one and we can say together with Helly was the main difference we lost the game.

If Ehlers Laine or Myers does that. This thread would explode and the main board.

To say Laine doesn't manufacture offense throughout this playoff is not following closely.

Mistakes happens.
My main point on my initial post is.

People like to crap on
LAINE alot

And he is out producing all forwards except Schiefele and Stastny. I left out Wheeler yes.

One think i always repeat about Laine is.
He should be more selfish and for once do not think defense and be always the first forward back. A lot of times to cover the D.
If its what you mean by generating offense, yes that is correct.
But its different than what some are stating he is useless.

 

[Positive]

Roslo was rusty hadn't played in ages, no worse than Ehlers!

Can't win when only half your team shows up!

three good: Schief, Buff, Morrissey

three bad: (noticeably) Laine, Enstrom, Helly

A bad game.from Ehlers is still probably better than Roslovic on an average day. And this was a bad day for Ros. Because Ehlers is a better hockey player.

Any other AHL players you want to insert into the lineup as an experiment right now genius? Because the WCF is a great time to sit your regular guys to make a point and try to develop the youngsters, right? Yeesh.

 

[Farmboy Patty]

I disagree with this. A run and gun game heavily favores the Jets since they are much more talented in scoring and the teams are pretty even in goaltending. All the Jets need to do is to keep playing their brand of hockey and avoid the kind of brain farts that lead to the VGK goals last game.

The Jets are the better team and soon enough the VGK will be trying to figure out ways to beat them. Sadly they won't, since that requires a poor effort from the Jets, which in itself is not a strategy that one can draw up. This might go to seven, but I'm still staying positive and hold on to my prediction of Jets in 5, with three straight wins from our boys

I wrote this in the strategies to beat the VGK thread. The Jets did the underlined part in the third period, and the Knights were hanging on the ropes when the Jets turned it up. If they can keep up that kind of play for even 2 periods, then the Knights don't stand a chance. It looked like the Jets solved their trap and got their forecheck going with pucks deep and going in with speed. It was evident that the Knights aren't nearly as good playing the trap as the Preds were. Rinne's excellent stickwork behind the goal was a crucial part of why that strategy worked so well for the Preds, and Fleury is clearly not as good playing the puck behind his goal. I think that that's what the Jets will take away from this game and respond with a solid performance the next game, playing to their strenghts and outscoring the Knights bigly.

On to the bolded part – Helly had a couple of forgettable moments once again where he let his team down and cost us this game. We don't even need stellar goaltending from him to beat these plastic knights, but we can't afford downright awful performances like he's had the last two games. I'd consider pulling him the next time if he plays like that and ride Mason instead. Helly got pulled already once in these play offs and it seemed to do him good.

 

[winnipegger]

We're not going to win the Cup by playing 20 or 30 minutes again. Never mind get past Vegas. If this is how they're going to play from here on out I'd rather have my heartbroken in the west final than the Stanley Cup Final.


With that out of the way I do hope that the leadership of this team kick some asses and gets this back on track

Hopefully that pressure play in the 3rd period is the result of understanding what they have to do to beat Vegas. The Jets are more skilled no one is doubting that. VGK are proving that hard work can beat skill. The Jets have to outwork them or they are not going to win the series.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

I would be open to some line juggling in the next game....we aren't getting any secondary scoring...any ideas peeps?

I would keep Schief and Wheels together, ready for a new winger there, maybe CLA needs to be switched a bit as well...

Little plays hard but can't buy any offence...

 

[Lowered Expectations]

With this lineup for the next game I would go:
MP-Scheif-Laine <- proven line
Connor-Stastny-Wheeler <- Cap and Stats like to play together IIRC
Roslo-Little-Armia <- speed and puck digging to spark little
Copp-lowry-Tanev <- Wear down Knight D

JoMo-Tuba
Morrow-Buff <-see if Morrow handles Knight forecheck better. I belive he does + actually shoot ON net.
Chiarot-Myers

If Ehlers is ok switch him in for Roslo.

 

[suihkukone]

How is Fleury not suspended for the wet willie?

I had to google wet willie. Not as saucy as I feared, but still disgusting. Is there footage of this?

I like Florida, but I'm cursing them, never make the play-offs

Positive: Frenchie with 2 SOGs. Now up to six Baby steps. Now, lift the puck.

 

[raideralex99]

You know Connor mistake was a huge one and we can say together with Helly was the main difference we lost the game.

It's a team sport ... blaming players gets you nowhere.
The first goal of the game was Scheifele mistake right?
How many times did Helly gave the puck away this year? The Vegas player batted the puck out of the air ... that's called lucky.
Yes Connor made a mistake but he did setup Scheifele's 2nd goal right?
Vegas got the bounces tonight ... Laine shoots 1" to the right it's a goal ... Perreault lifts it 2" it's a goal ... Connor goes to the net after MAF makes 2 unbelievable saves on Scheifele he goes a split second later he puts in the rebound like in the Nashville game.
It's a game of inches and split second decisions you guys need to relax.

 

[sipowicz]

Winnipeg not Yets!