PGT: 9/21 North America vs Sweden - North America wins 4-3 in OT but Sweden advances

[EK47]

It does, if they win in regulation. They pass Sweden.

And how are Russia gonna get 3 points from one game? Kuzy magic?

 

[gerardfraser]

Best 3 on 3 overtime ever,man that was amazing

 

[Claypool]

So let's see if this is correct now, if NA had pulled their goalie at the end, they could have either:

#1: Guaranteed advancing to semis, now they rely on Finland(nothing to fight for) to win vs Russia.

#2: failing to score but no empty net goal scored against -> same as now

#3: lost by 1 goal, ending up being at 2 points. In this case, the goal differential is such that they would advance if Russia loses vs Finland in regulation.


Hence, I guess the only way this would backfire is if Finland defeated Russia during OT. So shouldn't they have done it, then? Guarantee is a guarantee. It's curious if the coaching staff didn't know this.

I suppose winning in OT at the very least means Russia has to win in regulation, overtime, or a shootout to advance rather than just making it to the end of regulation and get one point.

 

[bDtKarlsson]

There is still a possibility for a Europe - NA final. That would be so weird!

 

[joe89]

Secretly this was kinda what I was hoping for before the game. Obviously you can't play for an OT loss but the point to clinch the group and then lose so that NA might move on was good enough for me.

Did we deserve the point? I'd argue OT win for NA was just about right taking the whole game into account.

 

[FlameChampion]

So let's see if this is correct now, if NA had pulled their goalie at the end, they could have either:

#1: Guaranteed advancing to semis, now they rely on Finland(nothing to fight for) to win vs Russia.

#2: failing to score but no empty net goal scored against -> same as now

#3: lost by 1 goal, ending up being at 2 points. In this case, the goal differential is such that they would advance if Russia loses vs Finland in regulation.


Hence, I guess the only way this would backfire is if Finland defeated Russia during OT. So shouldn't they have done it, then? Guarantee is a guarantee. It's curious if the coaching staff didn't know this.

Nah if they pulled their goalie and Sweden scored, it would of eliminated them. With getting a OT win, Russia at least has to win the game. I dont think pulling the goalie was the right move. But there should of been more urgency in the third to win.

 

[Del Preston]

Sweden will play the loser of tonight's Europe/Canada game in the semifinals.

 

[oXo Cube]

Evidently this tie-breaking stuff is so confusing that even the coaches can't figure it out.

Can't wait to see what McLellan has to say about this.

 

[Old Boys Club]

It was obvious from the complete lack of urgency in the last two and half minutes that the players had no idea that they needed to win in regulation.

Either the coaches are morons or they were not aware of the tie-breaking procedure(still morons).

Yes, because the coaches definitely haven't been telling them to win. "Alright guys just take it easy, no reason to win the game or anything", this isn't Dallas Eakins.

 

[Little Psycho]

Didn't expect that from The King

 

[tacogeoff]

It would have been a 2 on 0

No reason for Karlsson to jump up

he is the outlet pass, to the sedin who had the edge on the footrace to the puck on the side boards. have to rewatch it but there was McK still in the zone and jonny chasing the Sedin. where was the other guy?

 

[Fogelhund]

Highly entertaining game. I guess it's time to be a Team Finland fan for a day.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Gostisbehere leading all dmen in the tournament with 4 points in 3 games.

He has to be up there among the scoring leaders overall

 

[Slimmy]

The Sedins and Karlsson cost Sweden the game, terrible effort.

Who cares? They're in the semis.

 

[Canada4Gold]

MacKinnon didn't know he needed a regulation win, but what would the difference really be? Either way it would have been better for them to win in regulation since they have the tie breaker with Sweden but not Russia, and they still had to play careful or else risk losing in regulation and getting eliminated immediately.

Regulation loss by 1 goal is almost the exactly same scenario they have now. Had they lost in regulation they wouldn't needed Finland to beat Russia in regulation. That would create a 3 way 1-2 tie and they would have best GD unless Finland won by 7.

As is the only way this is better is in the case of a Finland OT win, or in the case Finland wins by 7

 

[WesMcCauley]

Damn good coaching by the swedish coaches after the first 10 minutes. No line except Kruger line managed to deal with Mcjesus and co. Changed it around and gave Krueger-hagelin etc ice time against Mcjesus etc.

 

[Scotty B]

What? They couldn't guarantee a spot. OT or Regulation win made no difference. What are you talking about?

If they won in regulation they woulda been in on goal differential, no matter what happened in Russia vs Finland game cause they woulda already had 3 way tie breaker over Sweden on goal differential...

It's up to the braintrust on the bench or somebody in management to figure this stuff in advance...BUT its clear NOBODY UNDERSTOOD

Dropped the ball McLellan et al!

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

He has to be up there among the scoring leaders overall

tied for 1st

 

[canswetoxic]

Its weird I want Russian to win tomorrow.

Russian vs Canada, what a match!!

 

[Chimpradamus]

I don't think the refs could have done more to help out Sweden.

Are you kidding? Söderberg's penalty was a joke. A two minute penalty for going to the crease isn't a penalty. It wasn't one-sided.

 

[ijuka]

I suppose winning in OT at the very least means Russia has to win in regulation, overtime, or a shootout to advance rather than just making it to the end of regulation and get one point.

That's true, but is the chance of that happening vs Finland higher than the risk-reward factor of pulling your goalie(And actually playing hard to win in regulation, which they apparently weren't doing)?

I'd say that the chances are overwhelmingly high that Russia wins in regulation vs Finland.

If they won in regulation they woulda been in on goal differential, no matter what happened in Russia vs Finland game cause they woulda already had 3 way tie breaker over Sweden on goal differential...

It's up to the braintrust on the bench or somebody in management to figure this stuff in advance...BUT its clear NOBODY UNDERSTOOD

Drop the ball McLellan et al!

True, my bad.

 

[Ainec]

this might be the last time we see Team NA ever again

so glad I decided to watch these games

 

[Breakers]

he is the outlet pass, to the sedin who had the edge on the footrace to the puck on the side boards. have to rewatch it but there was McK still in the zone and jonny chasing the Sedin. where was the other guy?

Exactly you just proved my point

Mackinnon was Karlsson's man

Sedin had Gaudreau covered in a defensive position along the boards

 

[WesMcCauley]

Im not a Swede or Ottawa fan but watching Karlsson handling the puck on the blueline is one of the most fun things about hockey!

 

[The Kingslayer]

Mackinnon pants King Henrik