PGT: 9/21 North America vs Sweden - North America wins 4-3 in OT but Sweden advances

[hockeystick89]

It was obvious from the complete lack of urgency in the last two and half minutes that the players had no idea that they needed to win in regulation.

Either the coaches are morons or they were not aware of the tie-breaking procedure(still morons).

 

[Nithoniniel]

There is only 2 points for win in regulation

Yes. Worst case scenario, it becomes a 3-way tie with 4 points. It would be about goal differential, and NA would have better than Sweden.

 

[KPower]

This is going to be 50 pages of poor math skills.

 

[Nordic*]

**** sake he had one good shift and Karlsson hit his tape

He fought hard, won board battles and played a very good game. He even got rewarded by getting time on the 3 vs 3, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Since when does 5 pts exceed 4 pts? Please explain.

since when does Sweden get 5 points in North America beats them in regulation?

 

[Breakers]

Karlsson was jumping up on the play to create a 2 on 1. one of the Sedin's lost a foot race to the puck..which he had the lead on which left McK in front of the net.

It would have been a 2 on 0

No reason for Karlsson to jump up

 

[Chimpradamus]

give me a break, Sweden basically doesn't care anymore.

Yeah, no kidding, winning the group after regulation is good enough.

since when does Sweden get 5 points in North America beats them in regulation?

NA won over Sweden in regulation? In what game? 2+2+1 = 5. Is it that hard to calculate?

 

[Itkonen]

As entertaining as Team NA is, I still can't stand the idea of all-star teams in national tournaments. I'd much rather see Russia in the semifinals. Then again, I'd like Finland to beat Russia.

 

[Antonglk]

But then it's a 3-way tie (at best) at 2-1. They would have a better goal differential than Sweden. So they would be guaranteed to advance over Sweden.

There is no 3-way tie possible. Sweden got 5 points and won the group.

 

[Firsov99]

Why does Russia advance with a win? They would both be 2-1, and I don't think Russia has scored more goals have they?

Head to head game tiebreaker would kick in if only two teams are tied for points.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

good to see Ghost and Parayko 1,2 in dmen scoring this tournament so far when looking at the website

 

[LeaferGeezer]

Lol, any knowledgeable hockey fan woulda known this, too bad it's needed to be said.

Been watching since 1964 bud. Like I said the sedins also cost them the game, not just Karlsson.

 

[ijuka]

So let's see if this is correct now, if NA had pulled their goalie at the end, they could have either:

#1: Guaranteed advancing to semis, now they rely on Finland(nothing to fight for) to win vs Russia.

#2: failing to score but no empty net goal scored against -> same as now

#3: lost by 1 goal, ending up being at 2 points. In this case, the goal differential is such that they would advance if Russia loses vs Finland in regulation.


Hence, I guess the only way this would backfire is if Finland defeated Russia during OT. So shouldn't they have done it, then? Guarantee is a guarantee. It's curious if the coaching staff didn't know this.

 

[Plub]

But, but, but what about the speeeeed. Team NA would destroy Sweden after two early goals. Such an easy group. We did what we had two and not an inch more. GG.

I don't think the refs could have done more to help out Sweden.

 

[Phil McKraken]

Man do I ever hope team North America moves on, CANADA VS NORTH AMERICA is a dream final

Even if North America moves on they can't face Canada in a final unless Canada loses against Team Europe.

 

[Mr Positive]

MacKinnon didn't know he needed a regulation win, but what would the difference really be? Either way it would have been better for them to win in regulation since they have the tie breaker with Sweden but not Russia, and they still had to play careful or else risk losing in regulation and getting eliminated immediately. NA was still extremely aggressive in the third period, and Lundqvist was brilliant. Sweden were holding back and playing super careful.

 

[vippe]

Since when does 5 pts exceed 4 pts? Please explain.

If team NA win in regulation - they have 4 points, Sweden has 4 points but NA has better goal differential.

Thus, NA would have been ahead of Sweden.

 

[Revelate]

Thought Eichel was great in the 3rd. Hope they get a chance to keep going.

 

[Nordic*]

I just LOVE the fact that U-23/Russia gets to face Canada (unless they throw the game against Europe tonight).

 

[authentic]

head to head win over North America

Yeah true enough, damn. That's tough because NA should have won that game. I could easily see Finland beat them though, Russia really isn't much better of a team (individuals yeah, but not as a team). I hope NA advances so badly.

 

[Canada4Gold]

There is no 3-way tie possible. Sweden got 5 points and won the group.

are you even following? They're discussing if NA had won in regulation. Sweden would have had 4 points and there would have been a 3 way tie with NA having h2h over Sweden(if 2 way tie) and GD over Sweden(if 3 way tie)

 

[Divine]

There is no 3-way tie possible. Sweden got 5 points and won the group.

We're talking about IF North America won in regulation. You said what difference does a regulation win make...

 

[Antonglk]

McDavid was good. Despite that he is unlucky today with goals he just flew over the ice.

 

[Canucks LB]

Reporter thought Henrik missed the breakaway in overtime. Henrik: "no, that was Danny, I would have scored" #Canucks

 

[SabresSharks]

I get that a bunch of HFB posters (me included) didn't know all the possibilities to advance when the game was tied late in the 3rd, but if the NA staff didn't know and/or didn't tell their team, that's inexcusable.