Prospect Info: #70 - Carter Mazur (LW)

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Yep, that's why I figured he was playing on the wing. Even without playing center yet, he's getting a major opportunity, and that's what's really piqued my interest in this kid recently. Excitement level rising.

I'll be really interested in watching this kid in December, assuming he's in the tournament. I'd like to get a better feel on whether he projects better as a center or winger. Because on one hand, his scouting reports sound a lot like what we're seeing from Mazur right now. On the other hand, he's been described as doing that ("that" being fitting in well on a line with more skilled players) from the center position. High IQ, knows where to be and when to be there, good compete.... again, sounds a lot like Mazur. Question will be, is his combination of skating and skill good enough to stay in the middle at the highest level (assuming he gets there).

If Mazur and LDN both end up being hits, you've got excellent complementary players for your two middle lines. Couple of force multipliers like Bert is currently a force multiplier for the top line.

A Swedish Mazur isn't that far off. He's definitely a gritty player and loves to play down low and in the corners. A big weakness in his game is taking penalties in the offensive zone and losing his temper. Once he reigns that in he's got the potential to be an upper tier 3rd liner in the NHL.

 

[Henkka]

Great tournament from Mazur.

5 games, 5+2=7 points. (3rd best scorer of Team USA)

15:06 ice-time (fifth most of USA forwards)

 

[Shaman464]

Great tournament from Mazur.

5 games, 5+2=7 points. (3rd best scorer of Team USA)

15:06 ice-time (fifth most of USA forwards)

And 6 of those points came against fodder teams.

 

[jaster]

And 6 of those points came against fodder teams.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

And 6 of those points came against fodder teams.

 

[opivy]

Mazur should force his coaches to sit him unless he's playing against only the best teams. No clue why he wastes his good games on fodder, especially the garbage in his own age group that is at the top of their respective country's player base. He'll never become a #1 C if he wastes his development time like this.

 

[RabidBadger]

And 6 of those points came against fodder teams.

Bordleau, Mazur and Hughes were named the top 3 players for the U.S. this tournament. I guess he got the pity vote for those hollow points he put up.

You Mazur haters would bitch about him winning a Conn Smythe trophy.

 

[norrisnick]

And 6 of those points came against fodder teams.

Welcome to basically any scoring record anywhere. The garbage teams get dumpstered.

 

[jkutswings]

Welcome to basically any scoring record anywhere. The garbage teams get dumpstered.

Bedard notched a majority of his points against Latvia and Slovakia. Clearly a bust.

 

[jfrank21]

And his 7th point came at a crucial time in the game when his team was playing like dog shit and was down by 2 goals....but his powerplay goal got them right back in it until their injured, #1 dman coughed it up with a blind pass straight to the opposing player with an empty net. In fact, his 7th point and overall play in a win or go home situation got him named his team's best player of the game for the 2nd time in 5 games. Yeah, we dont want guys like that up on the big club....

 

[WF19]

The Wings really need a good sleeper pick which i hope he turns into. It's been years or at least seemed like years since they found a gem. Seider and Raymond are working out so far but they are high picks. Zadina, Ras, should be a lot better than where they were drafted. To think they struck gold with guys like Hank and Dats, Lidstrom or even Franzen. Sooner or later we gotta find a stud that we don't need to finish last place to try to get. Hopefully Mazur is the start.

 

[haulinbass]

Kid definitly had an inpressive tournament. Outside of this and a couple games in NCCA tournament I haven't seen him. Definitly has a chance to develop into a useful player for us. Def some top six upside there and a pretty good chance to atleast play a bottom six role in NHL.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

And 6 of those points came against fodder teams.

Do points not count if the team they are scored against aren't good enough for "Shaman464"? Do we have points and then "Shaman464 Points"?

He had a really good tournament and put in some really nice work in some of the big time games as well. Like believe me, I get being wait and see on prospects and not getting all jazzed on some guy who won't crack a roster for more than a cup of coffee... but my damn, when a guy plays well, you should give him kudos for playing well.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

The Wings really need a good sleeper pick which i hope he turns into. It's been years or at least seemed like years since they found a gem. Seider and Raymond are working out so far but they are high picks. Zadina, Ras, should be a lot better than where they were drafted. To think they struck gold with guys like Hank and Dats, Lidstrom or even Franzen. Sooner or later we gotta find a stud that we don't need to finish last place to try to get. Hopefully Mazur is the start.

No, we shouldn't ever ever ever ever have an expectation of landing a Zetterberg or a Datsyuk let alone multiples in the last rounds. Those guys were unicorn picks who had a pretty bad knock against them (Zetterberg was like Adam Almqvist size and Datsyuk was quite literally an alien with how he skated and puckhandled.... and not necessarily in a good way. When a guy does something just so different from everyone else, it either works like gangbusters (Dats, Hasek) or they're complete trash.

Zetterberg worked his ass off and bulked up to beat that bugaboo and Datsyuk settled in as the Magic Man we all know.

 

[RedHawkDown]

No, we shouldn't ever ever ever ever have an expectation of landing a Zetterberg or a Datsyuk let alone multiples in the last rounds. Those guys were unicorn picks who had a pretty bad knock against them (Zetterberg was like Adam Almqvist size and Datsyuk was quite literally an alien with how he skated and puckhandled.... and not necessarily in a good way. When a guy does something just so different from everyone else, it either works like gangbusters (Dats, Hasek) or they're complete trash.

Zetterberg worked his ass off and bulked up to beat that bugaboo and Datsyuk settled in as the Magic Man we all know.

While this is true for the most part, it is also very difficult to become a top team without hitting on late round picks like this.

Tampa had Kucherov and point. Boston had Marchand, Bergeron. LA with Brown. Chicago with Keith. List goes on and on. All teams need to hit on top players in later rounds at least a few times to be successful.

 

[DoMakc]

While this is true for the most part, it is also very difficult to become a top team without hitting on late round picks like this.

Tampa had Kucherov and point. Boston had Marchand, Bergeron. LA with Brown. Chicago with Keith. List goes on and on. All teams need to hit on top players in later rounds at least a few times to be successful.

Dustin Brown was 13th overall. Keith, Kucherov and Bergeron were 2nd rounders, Marchand was picked at the beginning of 3rd round. It is hardly compareble to Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Dustin Brown was 13th overall. Keith, Kucherov and Bergeron were 2nd rounders, Marchand was picked at the beginning of 3rd round. It is hardly compareble to Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

Different times. Since there are more scouts and better techniques and applied to scouting analysis it's a lot harder to find the Datsyuks and Zetterbergs in the late rounds. I think the last true late round gems is Jesper Bratt on New Jersey as a 6th rounder in 2016 and Kirill Kaprisov in the 5th round in 2015.

 

[Gniwder]

Dustin Brown was 13th overall. Keith, Kucherov and Bergeron were 2nd rounders, Marchand was picked at the beginning of 3rd round. It is hardly compareble to Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

The end result is the same since the Wings struck out on all of their other picks those 2 drafts. The Wings could have drafted D & Z with their first available pick, wouldn't have mattered. The point they were trying to make is that teams need to hit on picks outside the top 10OA. The Caps won the Cup by hitting on late 1st rounders, Carlson and Kuz along with other picks like Holtby (4th), Orlov (2nd),

D&Z were absolute draft bargains, but we aren't talking about draft value here.

 

[Henkka]

No, we shouldn't ever ever ever ever have an expectation of landing a Zetterberg or a Datsyuk let alone multiples in the last rounds.

Doesn't take long when everybody is wondering Elmer Söderblom.

 

[RedHawkDown]

The end result is the same since the Wings struck out on all of their other picks those 2 drafts. The Wings could have drafted D & Z with their first available pick, wouldn't have mattered. The point they were trying to make is that teams need to hit on picks outside the top 10OA. The Caps won the Cup by hitting on late 1st rounders, Carlson and Kuz along with other picks like Holtby (4th), Orlov (2nd),

D&Z were absolute draft bargains, but we aren't talking about draft value here.

Yes this is what I meant. Teams have to get 1-2 stars outside of the top 10-15 in order to be contenders.

 

[WF19]

No, we shouldn't ever ever ever ever have an expectation of landing a Zetterberg or a Datsyuk let alone multiples in the last rounds. Those guys were unicorn picks who had a pretty bad knock against them (Zetterberg was like Adam Almqvist size and Datsyuk was quite literally an alien with how he skated and puckhandled.... and not necessarily in a good way. When a guy does something just so different from everyone else, it either works like gangbusters (Dats, Hasek) or they're complete trash.

Zetterberg worked his ass off and bulked up to beat that bugaboo and Datsyuk settled in as the Magic Man we all know.

I get your point and not arguing it, just like was stated sooner or later you'd think we would hit another gem. Every team does it, take Soderblom for instance he hasn't proven anything yet but im a re-draft his position would be much higher. Alot of later picks don't pan out to nothing, some got a taste and a few come out of nowhere. Jonathon Eriksson is another example. While he got crapped on alot he was a very solid bottom pair dman.

 

[Fil Larkmanthanasiou]

Right now we have Mazur and Soderblom looking like they could be draft steals.
I think there is also some hope that Dower-Nilsson might be and Lombardi showed some promise at the Prospects tournament from this year's draft.

 

[Pavels Dog]

All teams need to hit on top players in later rounds at least a few times to be successful.

Colorado shows that you can build just fine without any exceptional late round drafting. Hit on your top picks, make some smart trades/signings, and you're good to go.
The problems happen if you whiff on top picks. Then you need to compensate. Tampa did that with Kucherov and Point.
For Detroit, you can look at Rasmussen, Zadina and maybe Veleno as "whiffs", and we need later round picks to compensate for that. Could be Söderblom, Berggren and Mazur.

 

[lhsgolf19]

Congrats to Carter


Not bad for Sophomore

 

[bedtime20]

Congrats to Carter


Not bad for Sophomore

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