ricky0034
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and Yzerman feeling the need to hire a new Coach after getting rid of Blashill instead of just leaving the position empty speaks volumes on Raymond's overall lack of maturity
Prospect Info: #70 - Carter Mazur (LW)
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and Yzerman feeling the need to hire a new Coach after getting rid of Blashill instead of just leaving the position empty speaks volumes on Raymond's overall lack of maturity
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Only playing on line 2? And as part of a trio instead of a single man unit? WHAT A BUST!!!
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They raised the age because of the pandemic and also because the Canadian WJC team was petitioning for Michael Bunting to be eligible.
Shaman464
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This will be Bunting's year to win the Calder, mark my words. Unless a team signs Jagr. 50 is the new 20.
RabidBadger
Mazur detractors will look like dummies!
If 50 is the new 20, 30 is the new fetus. Mazur has a lot of time to develop!
Edit: I'm still amazed Mazur stays at the fore of the regular posts over guys like Johanssen, Wallinder, Cossa, etc. Shit, some people are already bored talking about Kasper. What an interesting case study in draft picks (he's my personal favorite, so I'll be lurking here).
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I think its a bit of an underdog situation. Not that all prospects aren't underdogs but I think a lot of people including myself wrote off the pick, its cool to see him beat the nay sayers.
Beat the nay sayers? He’s a long way away from that. And I’m not even a nay sayer.
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Loved Mazur on the january games I saw before the tournament was cancelled.
He was the "kadri" or "perron" there going under people's skin.
He was the "kadri" or "perron" there going under people's skin.
The nay sayers argued that he should have never been picked and would never be a prospect with a legitimate chance at an NHL future. He's well on his way to stepping up and dispelling those notions.
Should not have been drafted? Or should not have been drafted where he was? Two very different things.
Should not have been drafted.
The naysayers criticized him for being an overager, for being a smaller build, for not having standout skill, for having had one breakout year. And the obvious ties to the Draper family.
The people who didn't like Mazur didn't want him at all and you would have heard bitching even if he were a 7th round pick.
This is silly. Dude was ranked in the top 75 for NA skaters. Of course he should have drafted at some point, overager or not.
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Red Wings’ prospect Carter Mazur rides momentum into World Juniors
After NCAA championship as freshman at Denver, forward eyes another prize.
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“Ties to the Draper family” thing was something made up by this board to knock the pick more.
His son played on a team with him. Big f***ing deal. Montreal fans wanted Cooley despite their GM’s son playing on a team with him. They even thought it was a good thing their GM was so familiar with the player. Crazy….
That whole narrative was crap.
To be fair, having ties to Draper is not a valid point. It's just about as invalid of a point as you could come up with.
As for the others, they are all convenient points of criticism for people who never heard of the kid or watched a second of his play at the time of the draft.
They, by themselves, are not reasons to not draft a kid. They are factual statements, but they have very little to do with Mazur as a 19 year old hockey player. He's an overager? Okay, but did these naysayers watch him in either his first or second year of eligibility? Did they realize his physical growth and development or his improved quality of play? Do they care if he's pretty good at a number of things without being really good at anything?
They are only valid points if you don't want to use an ounce of actual analysis. Which is the norm for a lot of you.
Yeah, you can't be involved in the game of hockey, especially on the coaching side, and not have connections to players.
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Coming from someone a little more on the side of cringing when Draper drafted his own son.... that narrative around Mazur was absolute horseshit from the outset. It revealed a lot of bias on behalf of some, but really showed just how ignorant some people are when it comes to how scouting and drafting works.
Imagine a draft-eligible kid, overager or not, who is bound to be a steal in the draft, as there are always several every draft. A kid who you could say is flying under the radar. This kid will end up exceeding his draft position and be looked back on as at least a moderate success story. Now, who is most likely to draft this kid? Which team's scouting staff is most likely to pick him ahead of others? Will it be a team that is more, or less, familiar with him? Will a kid ranked too low by the "professional scouting services" be picked higher by a team of scouts who have watched him or a team that hasn't watched him?
Yeah, Mazur could have been a miss. Might still be. But a team that was more familiar with him than others being the one to draft him is not the proof of a miss many wanted to believe.
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One breakout season is a valid reason to not draft someone in the third round now?
You woulda been ad if the wings drafted Scheifele in the third round then?
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