I don't know about you guys, but I already bought my season pass to Seider Town.
Prospect Info: 6th Overall Pick Moritz Seider, Defence, DEL
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HisNoodliness
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I love the nickname potential, we can stick with Mannheim Steamroller because that's just awesome.I don't know about you guys, but I already bought my season pass to Seider Town.
Or we could call him apple for apple seider.
Or Dark which is good both because of the German show Dark and Dark Seider works as a comic/star wars pun.
Or Slip because he's a slip and seider.
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I don't know about you guys, but I already bought my season pass to Seider Town.
What's the difference between Seider and juice?
Seider should definetly come to Grand Rapids , problem is we’re gonna have to dump some ppl cause he needs to play 18-20+ mins a night
If you go to the main board thread on our first rd pick there were 3 posters who called this pick 2 weeks ago. The wings were set on him for awhile.
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I was 100% that Wings gonna pick Zegras, so this was definitely shocker. But right now this is pick is looking better and better.
Pretty much exactly type of d-man that Wings wants and needs. Smart, fast, big, strong, gets shots through traffic, good character and of course hard to play against. I like this pick.
McIsaac-Seider is gonna be great PK pair, real pain in the ass pair to play against.
Cider is good nickname, short and sweet. In finnish language Cider is siideri, Seider = Siideri.
Pretty much exactly type of d-man that Wings wants and needs. Smart, fast, big, strong, gets shots through traffic, good character and of course hard to play against. I like this pick.
McIsaac-Seider is gonna be great PK pair, real pain in the ass pair to play against.
Cider is good nickname, short and sweet. In finnish language Cider is siideri, Seider = Siideri.
I like the idea of a Hronek-McIsaac and Cholowski-Seider pairings
tbh I took no note of their handedness so maybe those are suboptimal
tbh I took no note of their handedness so maybe those are suboptimal
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I included that. "comic/star wars"
Nice avatar
Honestly Manheim Steamroller is just too good
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The more I'm watching and reading about him the more I love this pick. I get it, we wanted and a center, but Yzerman is trying to build a complete team here. Looking at our current forward lineup, we already a very good young group with tones of potential. Our defense on the other hand is lacking. We do have Hronek, Cholowski, and McIsaac, but only Hronek has made his mark so far. Adding Seider to that group really puts us in a good position in the future if all 4 players pan out. Remember, defense wins championships.
Moritz Seider, D (No. 6 overall): Seider played all season in the top German pro league and was impressive in the World Championships for a U18 player. He looked good for a 17-year-old but never stood out versus men until the end of the season. At the IIHF U20 B pool, though, we saw the best of Seider. He was the best defenseman in the tournament as a double underage player. He’s got great athletic tools as a 6-foot-4 defenseman who skates well. He uses his feet to join attacks often and can make plays at speed. Seider’s main criticism from scouts is his lack of standout puck skill and that he won’t be a true power play guy in the NHL. With that said, he has decent touch and makes plays. He moves the puck well, showing great poise and instincts. Defensively he’s a rock with his wingspan, feet and defensive acumen, and projects as a tough minutes player in the NHL. He is one of the best German prospects in recent memory.
Germany U20 coach Christian Kunast on Seider: “The most impressive thing about Moritz is that he competes every shift – when he steps on the ice he wants to win. He sees the game very well and that makes him special. He’s also a very good skater.”
Team Fit: In Seider, the Wings get a player who a lot of teams were interested in and speculated may go in this range but weren’t 100 percent sure it would happen. NHL sources describe him as a bit of a mystery because of how little he played for his club team, but he impressed NHL folks a lot in international play, such as at the U20 B pool and the World Championship. It’s an aggresive play for me, especially since there are some questions on the offensive upside, but I know a lot of teams who were big believers in Seider. This will be one of the most fascinating picks of the past decade and one of the gutsiest. GM Steve Yzerman is known for making gutsy picks, selecting the injured Brett Connolly at sixth-overall, the temperamental Tony DeAngelo in the top 20 and goalie in Russia in Andrei Vasilevskiy in the first round.
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Germany U20 coach Christian Kunast on Seider: “The most impressive thing about Moritz is that he competes every shift – when he steps on the ice he wants to win. He sees the game very well and that makes him special. He’s also a very good skater.”
Team Fit: In Seider, the Wings get a player who a lot of teams were interested in and speculated may go in this range but weren’t 100 percent sure it would happen. NHL sources describe him as a bit of a mystery because of how little he played for his club team, but he impressed NHL folks a lot in international play, such as at the U20 B pool and the World Championship. It’s an aggresive play for me, especially since there are some questions on the offensive upside, but I know a lot of teams who were big believers in Seider. This will be one of the most fascinating picks of the past decade and one of the gutsiest. GM Steve Yzerman is known for making gutsy picks, selecting the injured Brett Connolly at sixth-overall, the temperamental Tony DeAngelo in the top 20 and goalie in Russia in Andrei Vasilevskiy in the first round.
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A big, smooth-skating German blueliner with physicality, sound instincts, strong work ethic and leadership qualities, Seider, when given the opportunity, has handled a top-four role against adult age competition with aplomb. His dominant play in all three zones at the IIHF’s first division under-20 world juniors not only led Germany to the title that vaulted them into the top bracket for next year’s tournament, but also reinforced his standing as a first-round quality prospect with legitimate top pairing potential at the highest level.
One of Seider’s most noticeable qualities is how smart he is with or without the puck. Blessed with an acute sense to predict the opponent’s intentions, Seider quickly transitions from standing up at the blue line like a brick wall, to a quick poke and pass that leads his mates to a counterattack. His physicality, reach and quick feet combine to make the majority of 1-on-1 attempts die quickly above the circles. Additionally, Seider will fix a puck carrier into the corner for either a low-percentage centering attempt or a smothering check into the boards. Cross-ice passes originating from the strong side get broken up with regularity, and you can make a strong case for Seider being the best in his draft class at owning and maintaining positioning in the low slot.
Seider’s offensive prowess appears limited, although he has shown confidence and reliability with his puck carrying. You rarely see him painted into a corner, and he uses smart dump-ins or lobs to buy additional time. He likes to join the rush and will venture well into the circles or slot as a trailer. He owns an excellent shot, both for its velocity and accuracy. He isn’t your classic power-play quarterback, but he has soft hands to handle crisp, cross-ice passes and hammer one-timers on net.
One thing to keep an eye on are injuries, as Seider missed two sizeable chunks of the schedule due to issues with his shoulder, and also suffered a concussion after being hit from behind at the men’s world championship in May.
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One of Seider’s most noticeable qualities is how smart he is with or without the puck. Blessed with an acute sense to predict the opponent’s intentions, Seider quickly transitions from standing up at the blue line like a brick wall, to a quick poke and pass that leads his mates to a counterattack. His physicality, reach and quick feet combine to make the majority of 1-on-1 attempts die quickly above the circles. Additionally, Seider will fix a puck carrier into the corner for either a low-percentage centering attempt or a smothering check into the boards. Cross-ice passes originating from the strong side get broken up with regularity, and you can make a strong case for Seider being the best in his draft class at owning and maintaining positioning in the low slot.
Seider’s offensive prowess appears limited, although he has shown confidence and reliability with his puck carrying. You rarely see him painted into a corner, and he uses smart dump-ins or lobs to buy additional time. He likes to join the rush and will venture well into the circles or slot as a trailer. He owns an excellent shot, both for its velocity and accuracy. He isn’t your classic power-play quarterback, but he has soft hands to handle crisp, cross-ice passes and hammer one-timers on net.
One thing to keep an eye on are injuries, as Seider missed two sizeable chunks of the schedule due to issues with his shoulder, and also suffered a concussion after being hit from behind at the men’s world championship in May.
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I don't understand why that was ever thought of as a insult. Helm with hands would of been a super star. Well if helm with hands also had durability.
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Seider wants to finish school in germany .The school will give him the opportunity to do it from abroad.,but in the AHL or CHL, it will be very hard for him .I doubt that he will go NA to play CHL.Either he went to the red wings and play in the NHL or he will stay in germany for another year with the opportunity to play Champion Hockey league and the WC.
I am convinced that he will get much more icetime than last season,because he developed very fast.
I am convinced that he will get much more icetime than last season,because he developed very fast.
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I hated the pick when it was made. After more reflection and reading info posted here, I still have some concerns:
1) I have very little respect for the DEL in comparison to other leagues.
2) Sample size. 29 games and having 1-2 fantastic tournaments is nice, but I would definitely be less nervous, investing such a premium asset into a player that has shown it over 50-60 contests.
3) By most evaluations, he was a guy to take in the 10-15 range. It's very disappointing that Detroit couldn't get even a very minor asset to trade down 2-4 slots and still take him.
Hopefully he tears it up in his development, and it ends up being a home run. If he does, it's a superb skill set to add. But I don't care how new Yzerman is to the job - I'm not just gonna give him a free pass at anything. I want to chase Cups again, and he needs a lot of great decisions and a lot of luck to get there, so I'm gonna question something that gives me pause.
1) I have very little respect for the DEL in comparison to other leagues.
2) Sample size. 29 games and having 1-2 fantastic tournaments is nice, but I would definitely be less nervous, investing such a premium asset into a player that has shown it over 50-60 contests.
3) By most evaluations, he was a guy to take in the 10-15 range. It's very disappointing that Detroit couldn't get even a very minor asset to trade down 2-4 slots and still take him.
Hopefully he tears it up in his development, and it ends up being a home run. If he does, it's a superb skill set to add. But I don't care how new Yzerman is to the job - I'm not just gonna give him a free pass at anything. I want to chase Cups again, and he needs a lot of great decisions and a lot of luck to get there, so I'm gonna question something that gives me pause.
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He had a shoulder injurie and a break for the U20WC to play for germany .Otherwise he would have had more games.He was never a healthy scratch
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Steve Yzerlland
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Holland has Yzerman's list and vice versa , Ken took a D two spots later. How can you say with certainty Holland wouldn't have taken Seider #8OA???
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Yes. Many many reports had Edmonton locked in on Broberg.
Had Detroit taken Zegras, Buffalo still takes Cozens, and Anaheim at 9 is the first question mark, but I think they and Vancouver both still go forward. Had Detroit taken Cozens, maybe Buffalo goes D, but hard to say.
Whether Philly keeps 11, or Arizona still trades up, I think that's the first slot where somebody else likely takes Seider. Now that doesn't mean he couldn't still turn into a steal. But I think chances were very high that - if there's a trading partner, even for a minor asset - he's still there a few picks later.
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His scouting reports sound very similar to Dobson's. Smooth skating and defensively sound. Good first pass. I think maybe his offensive game isn't obvious because he played in a pro league and couldn't put up the points. He seemed to do well the few times he played against his age group.
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