Prospect Info: 6th Overall Pick Moritz Seider, Defence, DEL
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The Zermanator
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Cholowski-Seider and McIsaac-Hronek could be a really solid top 4 in 2-4 years.
The Zermanator
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They went way off board for this pick, just gotta hope he’s got the potential they see in him. He’s a Red Wing now so I’m rooting for him 100%.
He does have some very exciting tools and attributes, hopefully he ends up having a Hedman-like impact for us.
He does have some very exciting tools and attributes, hopefully he ends up having a Hedman-like impact for us.
Realgud
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I think so too, let's hope they develop properly. I think only Hronek is a sure top 4 for now but the other 3 have huge upsides, it will be fun to follow their progress!
Qward
Because! That's why!
I think you guys got the guy from the draft that ends up being rated in the top 3 when they look back and do the redrafts in a couple years. Kid is a gonna solid for years. Gratz.
NYRFANMANI
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What a shocker. My face was blasted when Stevie Y announced the pick. Really love it for Seider and the Wings.
You can look at the kid as athletically ideal, strong puck control, offensive upside. He can be lured out of his defensive positioning and make questionable decisions in the d-zone. I believe these are the easiest fields to teach and the kid is smart. Definitely the best defensive prospect Germany ever produced, god knows we needed that on a national level.
lmao at the Red Wings reporter: "did you just call Dylan Larkin an "insane player"?"
Seider: "yes, of course, I mean he's amazing [...]" ... what a dope that guy was.
You can look at the kid as athletically ideal, strong puck control, offensive upside. He can be lured out of his defensive positioning and make questionable decisions in the d-zone. I believe these are the easiest fields to teach and the kid is smart. Definitely the best defensive prospect Germany ever produced, god knows we needed that on a national level.
lmao at the Red Wings reporter: "did you just call Dylan Larkin an "insane player"?"
Seider: "yes, of course, I mean he's amazing [...]" ... what a dope that guy was.
Frk It
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Sorry, I was pretty drunk when I wrote this.
All I was really trying to say is that the rankings don’t give us the whole picture, and you can’t know what teams like what player and where the best place to take them is.
Yep that's Art Regner for you. Dude's a weirdo.
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HisNoodliness
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Full games or just highlights? If they're actual games that's what I want to watch. Seeing a bunch of ten second highlights doesn't tell me much and I didn't pay enough attention to Germany at the Worlds
HisNoodliness
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I spoke to one of those posters that called Seider to us a while ago which should give him credibility, but grain of salt and all that: supposedly our scouts wanted Podkolzin from who was left on the board and Yzerman made the call to take Seider. If the debate was Pods or Seider, I am pretty happy with Seider. I still had Podkolzin rated higher, but from a needs perspective Seider does a lot more for us. I still wish I could find some real games to watch though. Hopefully someone with access posts a shift-to-shift now that Seider is a 6OA pick
drw02
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That's really such an important and impressive distinction.
Obviously not the same level prospect but his game does remind me a lot of Hedman.
Hedman, Jones, Paryako, Pietrangelo, Weber. If we can emulate anyone on that list, we picked a damn good player.
Ghost of Ethan Hunt
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Post#179
Prospect Info: - 6th Overall Pick Moritz Seider, Defence, DEL
a few full games.
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also on the prospects page is a summary of each game:
RD Moritz Seider - Jungadler Mannheim, DNL (2019, 6th, DET)
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From the Prospects board:
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1) He was very good against Great Britain. Basically the only German player that played well in that game, but the level of competition (no offense intended to Great Britain) was not that high.
2) He was good against Denmark, but did not stand out as much.
3) Really good against France, I would recommend this one.
4) I thought he was a little bit weaker against Slovakia, if you disregard the level of competition. Considering how much better Slovakia played compared to the teams Germany and Seider had faced before, his performance was still pretty impressive until he got injured in the 3rd period. This caused him to miss the remaining 3 games in the preliminary round vs. Canada, USA and Finland. Overall I would also recommend this one.
5) Unfortunately I missed a significant portion of the quarterfinal vs. Czech Republic, but during the parts I did see, I was extremely impressed, because Seider seemed not to miss a beat after missing the three previous games and managed to hold his own against the strongest opponent he personally faced during the tournament.
So I would also recommend this game.
I hope this helps a little to make your choice."
"I've never lost a game. I just ran out of time." - Michael Jordan"Which world championship game was his most impressive? Or which two or three? I have a bunch DVRd but am running out of time to watch before the draft."
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"Kind of depends what you are looking for. Here is what I thought of his games:REPLY:
1) He was very good against Great Britain. Basically the only German player that played well in that game, but the level of competition (no offense intended to Great Britain) was not that high.
2) He was good against Denmark, but did not stand out as much.
3) Really good against France, I would recommend this one.
4) I thought he was a little bit weaker against Slovakia, if you disregard the level of competition. Considering how much better Slovakia played compared to the teams Germany and Seider had faced before, his performance was still pretty impressive until he got injured in the 3rd period. This caused him to miss the remaining 3 games in the preliminary round vs. Canada, USA and Finland. Overall I would also recommend this one.
5) Unfortunately I missed a significant portion of the quarterfinal vs. Czech Republic, but during the parts I did see, I was extremely impressed, because Seider seemed not to miss a beat after missing the three previous games and managed to hold his own against the strongest opponent he personally faced during the tournament.
So I would also recommend this game.
I hope this helps a little to make your choice."
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Cholowski is a LD, Seider is a RD. If anything it says what they think of Lindstrom.
Ghost of Ethan Hunt
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Hedman type impact would be great & probably max ceiling (not likely), I'm thinking closer to Brandon Carlo 2.0/Willie Mitchell/Mattias Norstrom (at best). We've needed a solid Top4, 2-way/primarily Def.Dman for a while now, the kind of guy that DDK could/should've been, but we all know DDK was slotted improperly. I like this pick based on need. The kind of all situations glue guy that is defense 1st, yet mobile, good exits, high IQ, can skate & pass out of zone, seems like a good kid.
DDK-Hronek
Cholo-Seider
McIssac-Kaski/Lindstrom
replace DDK with Josi/Pietrangelo (yes I know he's RHD, just reshuffle) if they don't extend (they'll probably extend or sign & trade).
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Unfortunately it will probably be impossible to find full games from the DEL. I tried to access some games from this season, but they only have highlights (basically just the goals) that show only very little if anything of Seider. Full game replays are apparently only available for a short time after the actual game, and only with a subscription.
SimonEdvinssonAtSix
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Could it just be as simple as how they view Moritz Seider?
ShanahanMan
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Thought I’d be happier in the morning. Nope.
We essentially just used our 6th pick to draft Ericsson 2.0
We essentially just used our 6th pick to draft Ericsson 2.0
Ghost of Ethan Hunt
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Or maybe they're stockpiling RHD, the most coveted of D's, especially with Top 4 upside, all situations guys, you can never have too many of those.
RedWingsDad
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Cheer up buddy. Seider is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyy wayyyyyyy more mobile than Ericsson and his hockey sense is better as well. Something tells me you will like this pick in a few years
ShanahanMan
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Big player with questionable puck handling and an offensive black hole. He plays in one the most terrible leagues in the world and still can’t muster points.
This pick is a joke.
There is a sect of posters on this site that like to complain no matter what, he is in that camp of posters.
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