Prospect Info: 5th Overall Pick 2020: Who Do The Sens Draft

[Micklebot]

No offense to Gonchar, but at the time in his career that we had him, he wasn't able to do what a 22-28 year old Sanderson projects to do in terms of logging heavy minutes against the other team's best offensive players.

That very well may be but Karlsson's pairing when we had Gonchar was heavily sheltered. Karlsson was not playing tough mins back then even if Gonchar wasn't as capable in his role as you think Sanderson will be.

 

[DaveMatthew]

That very well may be but Karlsson's pairing when we had Gonchar was heavily sheltered. Karlsson was not playing tough mins back then even if Gonchar wasn't as capable in his role as you think Sanderson will be.

Regardless, I think we can all agree that Karlsson, in his prime, was not surrounded as well as he could have been. During Gonchar's tenure, Karlsson was averaging just under 25 minutes a night. You can only shelter someone so much when he's on the ice for nearly half the game. It's not like he was playing 15 minutes with 6 on the PP.

We had a generational talent on the back-end and that was it, for the most part. That's probably why even though he was winning Norris' and breaking records, we were a bubble playoff team cycling through coaches.

Having two pairings - one anchored by Chabot, and one by Sanderson, has the potential of being better than anything we've had since Chara/Redden. That's 45-50 minutes a night where one of those guys is on the ice.

For that reason, I take Sanderson over Raymond, Rossi, Quinn.

If we only had one top 5 pick, I'd say we need a forward. But we'll get that at #3.

 

[DrSense]

The only issue with Sanderson is that he plays the left side.

JBD and Thomson play the right side. Jaros plays the right side. And Brannstrom prefers the right side. Zub plays the right side too. Plus, a lot of questions about who fits with the team long-term still.

Sanderson's as a rock on our left side along side Chabot could be one of the defining elements of this team a few years down the road. If the Sens see in Sanderson what a growing number of scouts do, then I'm all for him at #5.

 

[TheNewEra]

the thing is we could probably trade down with the 5 to the 8-9 range and pick sanderson. It is a risk sure but if our list is that close at #5 where we arent in love with anyone then it might make sense to trade down and get another asset or something out of it

 

[DaveMatthew]

the thing is we could probably trade down with the 5 to the 8-9 range and pick sanderson. It is a risk sure but if our list is that close at #5 where we arent in love with anyone then it might make sense to trade down and get another asset or something out of it

We have so many picks and assets, we're in the position where we can just take the guy we like, even if it's a few picks higher than expected.

With that said, I don't think there's a chance Sanderson lasts until 8-9. I think there's a distinct possibility Detroit even takes him at 4.

 

[TheNewEra]

We have so many picks and assets, we're in the position where we can just take the guy we like, even if it's a few picks higher than expected.

With that said, I don't think there's a chance Sanderson lasts until 8-9. I think there's a distinct possibility Detroit even takes him at 4.

Oh for sure but I personally think detroit is taking a perfetti/raymond to get an explosive forward since they took seider last year

After us I see the Ducks looking defense first and the blackhawks. If drysdale and sanderson are still available when we are on the clock at 5 i think its a bet worth making. If we see sanderson as a karlsson type pick then I agree we just need to shut up and pick him

 

[Micklebot]

Regardless, I think we can all agree that Karlsson, in his prime, was not surrounded as well as he could have been. During Gonchar's tenure, Karlsson was averaging just under 25 minutes a night. You can only shelter someone so much when he's on the ice for nearly half the game. It's not like he was playing 15 minutes with 6 on the PP.

We had a generational talent on the back-end and that was it, for the most part. That's probably why even though he was winning Norris' and breaking records, we were a bubble playoff team cycling through coaches.

Having two pairings - one anchored by Chabot, and one by Sanderson, has the potential of being better than anything we've had since Chara/Redden. That's 45-50 minutes a night where one of those guys is on the ice.

For that reason, I take Sanderson over Raymond, Rossi, Quinn.

If we only had one top 5 pick, I'd say we need a forward. But we'll get that at #3.

I don't like drafting for need but even looking at it that way we have 3 dman prospects that are recent first round picks along with Chabot Wolanin, Zaitsev, and Zub.

We have nobody that projects as a #1 center, and no elite talent on the wings

I just don't think we can pick based on position, everywhere you look we need talent even taking into account 3rd OA being a forward.

We can't overcomplicate this, just draft the guy we think is the best prospect. If that ends up being a dman so be it

 

[DaveMatthew]

I don't like drafting for need but even looking at it that way we have 3 dman prospects that are recent first round picks along with Chabot Wolanin, Zaitsev, and Zub.

We have nobody that projects as a #1 center, and no elite talent on the wings

I just don't think we can pick based on position, everywhere you look we need talent even taking into account 3rd OA being a forward.

We can't overcomplicate this, just draft the guy we think is the best prospect. If that ends up being a dman so be it

Agreed. That we've drafted defenseman in the first round recently is irrelevant. That we lack elite talent on the wings is also irrelevant.

IMO, the 4th and 5th best prospects in this draft are Sanderson and Drysdale. I'd take both over any forward not named Lafreniere, Byfield and Stutzle, regardless of need.

So I hope we land one at #5.

 

[Micklebot]

Agreed. That we've drafted defenseman in the first round recently is irrelevant. That we lack elite talent on the wings is also irrelevant.

IMO, the 4th and 5th best prospects in this draft are Sanderson and Drysdale. I'd take both over any forward not named Lafreniere, Byfield and Stutzle, regardless of need.

So I hope we land one at #5.

Sure, if those are the two guys you like thats great. It's not really aligned with what you said earlier regarding if we only had one top 5 pick, but if you like both dmen better than the available forwards take a dman. I don't agree myself, I like Raymond and Perfetti better than Sanderson and have Drysdale ranked between them, but I'm ok with any of them, as well as Rossi with 5th OA.

 

[ijif]

I hope we do not take Sanderson with the fifth pick. The statistical gap between him and his peers is too large to justify selecting him fifth overall. I also think that forwards and offence are easier to project than defenders and defence, so I'd prefer to take a forward over a defender with a high pick.

 

[BigRig4]

I would consider Sanderson with #5 if only he were righty - god he would be perfect to pair with Chabot

 

[Micklebot]

I hope we do not take Sanderson with the fifth pick. The statistical gap between him and his peers is too large to justify selecting him fifth overall. I also think that forwards and offence are easier to project than defenders and defence, so I'd prefer to take a forward over a defender with a high pick.

I think most years I'd be thrilled to get a player like Sandersin 5th, but thus year just has a lot of depth from 4 to 8. I really like Sanderson and think he might end up justifying those that have him top 5 but Raymond, Perfetti and Drysdale to me have too high of a potential to pass on. To me he 7 or 8 with Rossi. Great year to have two top 5 picks...

 

[ijif]

I think most years I'd be thrilled to get a player like Sandersin 5th, but thus year just has a lot of depth from 4 to 8. I really like Sanderson and think he might end up justifying those that have him top 5 but Raymond, Perfetti and Drysdale to me have too high of a potential to pass on. To me he 7 or 8 with Rossi. Great year to have two top 5 picks...

I don't think I would ever be thrilled with a player like Sanderson being picked fifth overall. For me, he might not be the BPA with the NYI pick. Of course, I could be wrong, and I could be underrating him.

For the fifth pick, I hope we select one of Raymond, Rossi, or Perfetti.

 

[Micklebot]

I don't think I would ever be thrilled with a player like Sanderson being picked fifth overall. For me, he might not be the BPA with the NYI pick. Of course, I could be wrong, and I could be underrating him.

For the fifth pick, I hope we select one of Raymond, Rossi, or Perfetti.

Well i guess i clearly see a very different player than you do in Sanderson... But thats fine, time will tell.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I don't think I would ever be thrilled with a player like Sanderson being picked fifth overall. For me, he might not be the BPA with the NYI pick. Of course, I could be wrong, and I could be underrating him.

For the fifth pick, I hope we select one of Raymond, Rossi, or Perfetti.

This is how I feel. The BPA for me at 5 will clearly be Raymond or Perfetti, but based on our drafting history I've already accepted we're going to pass them on for a more safe pick with less upside. Hope they prove me wrong.

 

[Crosside]

I really want Raymond but I predict one of Holtz, Quinn or Lundel

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

This is how I feel. The BPA for me at 5 will clearly be Raymond or Perfetti, but based on our drafting history I've already accepted we're going to pass them on for a more safe pick with less upside. Hope they prove me wrong.

It’s a baseless assumption. Last time they had a top 5 pick they took Tkachuk who was a risky pick and they passed on the safe selection of Couturier and Hamilton in 2011

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I don't think I would ever be thrilled with a player like Sanderson being picked fifth overall. For me, he might not be the BPA with the NYI pick. Of course, I could be wrong, and I could be underrating him.

For the fifth pick, I hope we select one of Raymond, Rossi, or Perfetti.

Raymond, Rossi or Perfetti is my preference as well. I'd love to see them swing the bat on one of these guys.

I can see the case for Drysdale (top pair RHD) or Sanderson minute munching D specialist that skates and moves the puck well. Not what I'd do but I'd be ok with that. I can't always get my way lol

I'd rather see them take their D later in the draft and just go all out on the best 3 forwards we can Draft; or use the 3rd pick to trade for a guy like Sergachev.

I am sure Dorion will be very involved in these 3 picks so your guess is as good as mine or anyone else's what's going to come out of that.

 

[BondraTime]

Sanderson would be a very fine pick at 5, I have Perfetti and possibly Raymond ahead of him, but Sanderson absolutely belongs in the conversation at 5, which won’t be shared by stats influenced guys.

I think he fills the biggest hole to make us a contender out of the guys at 5 (assuming we get a center at 3) giving us two 25 minute anchors that compliment each other incredibly well.

 

[BoardsofCanada]

Guhle LD or Schneider RD can do the job of a Jake Sanderson. I hope we go for two high octane forwards with #3 and #5 and then perhaps move up a bit from #21 to land one of these smooth skating defensive d-men.

 

[Micklebot]

It’s a baseless assumption. Last time they had a top 5 pick they took Tkachuk who was a risky pick and they passed on the safe selection of Couturier and Hamilton in 2011

Also traded up to take a bust or boom Logan Brown.

 

[BondraTime]

Guhle LD or Schneider RD can do the job of a Jake Sanderson. I hope we go for two high octane forwards with #3 and #5 and then perhaps move up a bit from #21 to land one of these smooth skating defensive d-men.

The same way Bourque or Brisson ca do the job of Perfetti or Raymond

 

[BoardsofCanada]

The same way Bourque or Brisson ca do the job of Perfetti or Raymond

It's different for defense first d-men.

 

[BondraTime]

It's different for defense first d-men.

If you think you are getting a defensive D, sure. That's not Sanderson whatsoever

 

[JungleBeat]

I think most years I'd be thrilled to get a player like Sandersin 5th, but thus year just has a lot of depth from 4 to 8. I really like Sanderson and think he might end up justifying those that have him top 5 but Raymond, Perfetti and Drysdale to me have too high of a potential to pass on. To me he 7 or 8 with Rossi. Great year to have two top 5 picks...

Sanderson would be the third best defenceman prospect taken in most drafts. Taking him in the top five in other drafts just wouldn’t likely happen.