Prospect Info: 5th Overall Pick 2020: Who Do The Sens Draft

[Sens of Anarchy]

Stutzle played C vs Russia on Dec 31st in game 4 for Germany. He then went on to play C for all 3 games vs Kaz.

When I watch him play C, he has all the attributes and shows the intelligence and understanding on how to play C. It's a NON issue. The dude can and will play both C and W in the NHL just like Draisaitl does.

I agree he definitely can. He may have to start on the wing but likely gets a chance at both.

 

[DJB]

I agree he definitely can. He may have to start on the wing but likely gets a chance at both.

For sure. And depending which team hes drafted by he might simply be deployed as a winger full time anyways due to a teams already deep C depth (Kings). Doesnt mean he cant play centre though

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Stutzle played C vs Russia on Dec 31st in game 4 for Germany. He then went on to play C for all 3 games vs Kaz.

When I watch him play C, he has all the attributes and shows the intelligence and understanding on how to play C. It's a NON issue. The dude can and will play both C and W in the NHL just like Draisaitl does.

Non issue lol. I would still draft him if that’s what you mean. It’s an issue if you think he’s the next Greta NHL center

 

[Burrowsaurus]

For sure. And depending which team hes drafted by he might simply be deployed as a winger full time anyways due to a teams already deep C depth (Kings). Doesnt mean he cant play centre though

Great so if he never plays a single shift at center none of you are going to admit to being wrong are you.

this is ceci and cowen all over again

“ceci isn’t bad he just plays bad he can be good throw out your crystal ball”

“cowen is good it’s just his hip”.

 

[Micklebot]

Great so if he never plays a single shift at center none of you are going to admit to being wrong are you.

this is ceci and cowen all over again

“ceci isn’t bad he just plays bad he can be good throw out your crystal ball”

“cowen is good it’s just his hip”.

Yes, it's exactly like that... has nothing to do with scouts seeing him as a center at the NHL level, him being a natural center, looking good at center in the WJC, having the attributes that typically translate to NHL centers, it's just a bunch of posters finding ways to get out of having to admit their wrong...

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Yes, it's exactly like that... has nothing to do with scouts seeing him as a center at the NHL level, him being a natural center, looking good at center in the WJC, having the attributes that typically translate to NHL centers, it's just a bunch of posters finding ways to get out of having to admit their wrong...

He has more attributes that translate to him being a winger in the NHL. Either way he’s a top 3-4 pick, but staying a winger would lower his value in my mind.

 

[Micklebot]

He has more attributes that translate to him being a winger in the NHL. Either way he’s a top 3-4 pick, but staying a winger would lower his value in my mind.

Can you elaborate? Idk, I see a pass first guy with great vision who can cover the ice like nobodies business. His defensive play is still a work in progress like almost all kids his age, but he has a projectable frame so he should gain the strength/size combo needed. He sees the ice very well, and has great hockey IQ. Screams center to me.

 

[DJB]

Great so if he never plays a single shift at center none of you are going to admit to being wrong are you.

this is ceci and cowen all over again

“ceci isn’t bad he just plays bad he can be good throw out your crystal ball”

“cowen is good it’s just his hip”.

Comparing Stutzle to Ceci or Cowen in any way makes absolutely zero sense.

It's ok to not agree with others about a particular player, but it also feels as though you have some sort of vendetta against Stutzle.

Many analysts, scouts all believe that Stutzle can not only play C but thrive doing so.

But I guess stand behind your beliefs that's up to you but I absolutely don't agree with you.

 

[aragorn]

Can you elaborate? Idk, I see a pass first guy with great vision who can cover the ice like nobodies business. His defensive play is still a work in progress like almost all kids his age, but he has a projectable frame so he should gain the strength/size combo needed. He sees the ice very well, and has great hockey IQ. Screams center to me.

Also sounds like everything Lafreniere can do that has been mentioned a lot over the last yr & he's a winger. I think Stutzle has the skill & talent as you say that he could play centre in the NHL, but I can't help think he would be better on the wing in the NHL.

Speaking strictly for myself, I prefer a big centre who can control & protect the space down the middle, win board battles & faceoffs & occupy the front of the net in the o-zone. Having a playmaking wizard on the wing gives him more space with a bigger centreman & a goal scoring finisher on the other side. To each their own, but it could also depend on what the team requires more if they already have the centres they want. It should be interesting where these guys end up & which positions they eventually end up playing.

 

[JungleBeat]

Doesn’t Stutzle see himself playing on the wing for a a couple years in the NHL? I’m pretty sure he said in an interview he’s more comfortable there, don’t quote me.

He seems more like a winger to me but I’ll have to see some more games of him playing centre other than the couple games at the world juniors. He looked to be going to the perimeter a lot of times during 5v5 and forcing things after holding onto the puck for too long. He was excellent during the power play though.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Doesn’t Stutzle see himself playing on the wing for a a couple years in the NHL? I’m pretty sure he said in an interview he’s more comfortable there, don’t quote me.

He said, he wouldn’t be surprised to start on the wing for a couple of years and then switched to centre.
Said it on NHL Draft class podcast, all the top draftees with an 1/2 hour interview, also mentioned on TGOR

 

[Sens Vader]

I think if Stutzle goes to LA they keep him on LW and if we get him we will play him at C

I still think Byfield is a better fit for us and Stutzle is a better fit for LA - drafts usually fall that way

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Yes, it's exactly like that... has nothing to do with scouts seeing him as a center at the NHL level, him being a natural center, looking good at center in the WJC, having the attributes that typically translate to NHL centers, it's just a bunch of posters finding ways to get out of having to admit their wrong...

Dog. We will see.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Comparing Stutzle to Ceci or Cowen in any way makes absolutely zero sense.

It's ok to not agree with others about a particular player, but it also feels as though you have some sort of vendetta against Stutzle.

Many analysts, scouts all believe that Stutzle can not only play C but thrive doing so.

But I guess stand behind your beliefs that's up to you but I absolutely don't agree with you.

Lol my belief is not that he has never played center. It’s that he won’t. I can stand behind it because it hasn’t happened yet in the NHL. If I’m wrong. You will hear it from me that I was wrong
There’s no vendetta. I want the sens to draft him lmao.

i was here during the WJC saying I like the kid.

 

[Sweatred]

Can you elaborate? Idk, I see a pass first guy with great vision who can cover the ice like nobodies business. His defensive play is still a work in progress like almost all kids his age, but he has a projectable frame so he should gain the strength/size combo needed. He sees the ice very well, and has great hockey IQ. Screams center to me.

I thought his defensive game was strong at Center vs the Russians. He was in position To defend and effective at disrupting the rush in the neutral zone and when back checking.

I see a bit of pass first but also a unique 1v1 ability on the wing.

 

[Sweatred]

Great so if he never plays a single shift at center none of you are going to admit to being wrong are you.

this is ceci and cowen all over again

“ceci isn’t bad he just plays bad he can be good throw out your crystal ball”

“cowen is good it’s just his hip”.

Yikes ... comparing Stutzle to Cowan/Ceci is bold. You may want a Mulligan on that one.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Yikes ... comparing Stutzle to Cowan/Ceci is bold. You may want a Mulligan on that one.

I’m not comparing them. I’m just comparing the loopholes people will go to to avoid saying they’re wrong. Not accusing the people I’m talking to now in particular.
But I mean... people still won’t say they were wrong about ceci and cowen.

whatever. We can’t keep debating something that hasn’t happened. We will see.

 

[Sweatred]

I’m not comparing them. I’m just comparing the loopholes people will go to to avoid saying they’re wrong. Not accusing the people I’m talking to now in particular.
But I mean... people still won’t say they were wrong about ceci and cowen.

whatever. We can’t keep debating something that hasn’t happened. We will see.

Well.. I agree with your take on this board “acknowledging mistakes”... if the Sens draft Stutzle I can’t see them never “trying” him at Center. Norris projects as out best Center and may be a better winger, Brown has issues, and White is terrible. Stützle could easily be this teams best Center.

He could also never play center but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be very good at the position.

Did you watch the second game vs Russia at the WJC ? SSS ... but he was way more effective than Byfield.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Well.. I agree with your take on this board “acknowledging mistakes”... if the Sens draft Stutzle I can’t see them never “trying” him at Center. Norris projects as out best Center and may be a better winger, Brown has issues, and White is terrible. Stützle could easily be this teams best Center.

He could also never play center but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be very good at the position.

Did you watch the second game vs Russia at the WJC ? SSS ... but he was way more effective than Byfield.

I legitimately do no remmeber him as a center at the wjc save for two periods when the kid line got out together.
I watched all Germany’s games for the stutzle hype alone. I can’t tell you it didn’t happen. But I don’t remmeber him being deployed as a true center. I’m at the point now where I’m going to go find iso vids and replays of the games.

 

[aragorn]

Well.. I agree with your take on this board “acknowledging mistakes”... if the Sens draft Stutzle I can’t see them never “trying” him at Center. Norris projects as out best Center and may be a better winger, Brown has issues, and White is terrible. Stützle could easily be this teams best Center.

He could also never play center but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be very good at the position.

Did you watch the second game vs Russia at the WJC ? SSS ... but he was way more effective than Byfield.

It's very possible that Stutzle could play centre or LW in Ottawa & my guess is LW. However, I also agree that Ottawa has some issues at centre which is why I think they should look to acquire Lundell, if they don't get Byfield.

Stutzle & Lundell together on a line would be great & more valuable to Ottawa than another wizard on the wing, if they are weak at centre. It is afterall an important position in the NHL to be strong down the middle.

 

[Sweatred]

It's very possible that Stutzle could play centre or LW in Ottawa & my guess is LW. However, I also agree that Ottawa has some issues at centre which is why I think they should look to acquire Lundell, if they don't get Byfield.

Stutzle & Lundell together on a line would be great & more valuable to Ottawa than another wizard on the wing, if they are weak at centre. It is afterall an important position in the NHL to be strong down the middle.

I like that idea. I still lean toward Raymond/Dry at 5 but if the NYI pick falls we could be exposed to some nice draft eligible players. Someone good is going to go at 13-15.

 

[Sens Vader]

I legitimately do no remmeber him as a center at the wjc save for two periods when the kid line got out together.
I watched all Germany’s games for the stutzle hype alone. I can’t tell you it didn’t happen. But I don’t remmeber him being deployed as a true center. I’m at the point now where I’m going to go find iso vids and replays of the games.

He played center the full game vs Russia and Khazakhstan

Full games on YouTube as well

Looked very natural in the position to me, I know hes 17 at the tournament where most at that age look a little out of place. I love the ability to send quick passes to his dman and he can exit and enter the zone with so much speed. He can cover so much ice with his agility

 

[Que]

Comparing Stützle to Ceci I can kind of understand - it’s the ‘all the tools but lacking a belt/box to put them in’ argument.

I haven’t watched a single second of Stützle but the reports of him over handling the puck and forcing passes one the larger ice surface concern me. I’m sure it’s nothing - but transitioning to the smaller sheet of ice will give him even less time to make decisions.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Comparing Stützle to Ceci I can kind of understand - it’s the ‘all the tools but lacking a belt/box to put them in’ argument.

I haven’t watched a single second of Stützle but the reports of him over handling the puck and forcing passes one the larger ice surface concern me. I’m sure it’s nothing - but transitioning to the smaller sheet of ice will give him even less time to make decisions.

Take the time to watch what's available ..

 

[H2O]

Comparing Stützle to Ceci I can kind of understand - it’s the ‘all the tools but lacking a belt/box to put them in’ argument.

I haven’t watched a single second of Stützle but the reports of him over handling the puck and forcing passes one the larger ice surface concern me. I’m sure it’s nothing - but transitioning to the smaller sheet of ice will give him even less time to make decisions.

Those shortcomings aren’t nothing imo, they are things that he has to work on to be a better player. Remember how raw Karlsson was in his first few years as a pro? Mistakes will be made and you hope they will learn and grow with developmental help and experience. Same goes for any prospects obviously. What I like about Stutzle, much like young Karlsson, is that he’s got a great motor and often hustles back to make up for their mistakes. Oh yeah, the elite skating doesn’t hurt either..