Prospect Info: 5th Overall Pick 2020: Who Do The Sens Draft

[armani]

Quinn also the oldest player in the draft, not that Ottawa is scared to take older players but his birthday and late progress does scare me a bit

I can see Dorion try to trade something like NYI 1st + 2nd + 2nd to move to the top get a 3rd top-10 pick (from one of Devils, Sabres, or Hawks). Personally, I won't spend that much on Quinn - but would definitely agree to a package of NYI 1st + 2nd + 2nd if it nets us someone like Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti, or Sanderson within 8-10 range (especially if someone slips from top-7).

Pick availability wise, I see Quinn as a 10-12 range guy. Within the same range as Askarov (who may as well become the 2nd most impactful player from the draft if he becomes Price calibre) and Lundell.

 

[Sens Vader]

#3 - Byfield or Stutzle

- If Ottawa drafts Byfield, than they should take Sanderson at #5 to have one great forward & one great defenceman from the 1st rd of this draft.

- If Ottawa drafts Stutzle than IMO it would make sense to draft Lundell at #5 to be his centre. That gives Ottawa two 3rds of a potentially great line in the making. Lundell IMO should be in that 4-12 tier that PD talks about as should Sanderson & Askarov.

- every time Ottawa plays the NYI, I can see Pageau kicking the crap out of Drysdale, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond or Holtz. lol

You think Lundell is a good get at 5ova? I feel like I usually see him ranked in bottom 10 to 15 range.

He had a really good season it seems, not sure if the offensive upside is there to pick him over Rossi/Perfetti/Raymond though?

Byfield and Sanderson would be unreal to get

 

[Micklebot]

#3 - Byfield or Stutzle

- If Ottawa drafts Byfield, than they should take Sanderson at #5 to have one great forward & one great defenceman from the 1st rd of this draft.

- If Ottawa drafts Stutzle than IMO it would make sense to draft Lundell at #5 to be his centre. That gives Ottawa two 3rds of a potentially great line in the making. Lundell IMO should be in that 4-12 tier that PD talks about as should Sanderson & Askarov.

- every time Ottawa plays the NYI, I can see Pageau kicking the crap out of Drysdale, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond or Holtz. lol

Why would we draft Lundell to be Stuetzle's center when Stuetzle is a center? Just play Stuetzle at center and draft the guy you think is the best available player at 5.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Does Lundell have more offense in him? is the big question. If he can find some more offense in his game he is going to be a hell of a player and one we could look back on and think should have went higher. He has a pretty high floor. I can see the Sens liking him. Decent size 6'1 190 , could add to that, already playing and having success against men in a pro league, top player coming out of Finland this year, Mature 2 Way game, grounded ... high character guy. Not flashy.
I do not peg him as a 1C. I would take him in that 9-12 range but he is one guy the Sens may go outside the Drysdale, Sanderson, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond box for at 5.

Gonna have to have an acronym for that box

 

[R2010]

Yeah Whitney is one of the most underrated players around. Had he spent his whole career outside of the dead puck era and instead in the new rule NHL he’d have an even better stat line.

Most points from his draft class. Did not expect to see that.

 

[Tuna99]

I can see Dorion try to trade something like NYI 1st + 2nd + 2nd to move to the top get a 3rd top-10 pick (from one of Devils, Sabres, or Hawks). Personally, I won't spend that much on Quinn - but would definitely agree to a package of NYI 1st + 2nd + 2nd if it nets us someone like Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti, or Sanderson within 8-10 range (especially if someone slips from top-7).

Pick availability wise, I see Quinn as a 10-12 range guy. Within the same range as Askarov (who may as well become the 2nd most impactful player from the draft if he becomes Price calibre) and Lundell.

I’m all for moving up and getting quality players that for the spots we need them (#1C, #1RW, #1G, #2LW) / even if it means moving most of our picks to get the right 3 or 4 players.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I can see Dorion try to trade something like NYI 1st + 2nd + 2nd to move to the top get a 3rd top-10 pick (from one of Devils, Sabres, or Hawks). Personally, I won't spend that much on Quinn - but would definitely agree to a package of NYI 1st + 2nd + 2nd if it nets us someone like Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti, or Sanderson within 8-10 range (especially if someone slips from top-7).

Pick availability wise, I see Quinn as a 10-12 range guy. Within the same range as Askarov (who may as well become the 2nd most impactful player from the draft if he becomes Price calibre) and Lundell.

I would trade up for lundell. I wouldn’t move up for Quinn I see similar players imo in the rage we will be at

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Does Lundell have more offense in him? is the big question. If he can find some more offense in his game he is going to be a hell of a player and one we could look back on and think should have went higher. He has a pretty high floor. I can see the Sens liking him. Decent size 6'1 190 , could add to that, already playing and having success against men in a pro league, top player coming out of Finland this year, Mature 2 Way game, grounded ... high character guy. Not flashy.
I do not peg him as a 1C. I would take him in that 9-12 range but he is one guy the Sens may go outside the Drysdale, Sanderson, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond box for at 5.

Gonna have to have an acronym for that box

Thing is. His offensive numbers against men were not bad this year. I think it might be his demeanor that has people questions his offense.

 

[TheDebater]

#3 - Byfield or Stutzle

- If Ottawa drafts Byfield, than they should take Sanderson at #5 to have one great forward & one great defenceman from the 1st rd of this draft.

- If Ottawa drafts Stutzle than IMO it would make sense to draft Lundell at #5 to be his centre. That gives Ottawa two 3rds of a potentially great line in the making. Lundell IMO should be in that 4-12 tier that PD talks about as should Sanderson & Askarov.

- every time Ottawa plays the NYI, I can see Pageau kicking the crap out of Drysdale, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond or Holtz. lol

Lundell at #5 would just be poor asset management. If Dorion wants him that badly he might as well trade down a few spots and pick up another few picks or a player to whoever offers up the most to move up.

I still think drafting at #5 leaves us with some amazing options, and it would be worth the risk to draft a big name player like Drysdale, Perfetti, Raymond or Rossi as opposed to a "safe"choice in Lundell.

Other teams and their fans are going to envy us come draft day when we walk away with Byfielf or Stutzle and one of Drysdale, Raymond, Rossi, Perfetti or Sanderson...

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I hate to do it but I just hate seeing people say stutzle is a center. If he becomes one. Fine. I’ll come here and admit I was wrong like I’ve done Everytime I’ve had to. But the guy is not going to be a center in the Nhl.

 

[OUT HOUSE]

I hate to do it but I just hate seeing people say stutzle is a center. If he becomes one. Fine. I’ll come here and admit I was wrong like I’ve done Everytime I’ve had to. But the guy is not going to be a center in the Nhl.

Damn, I'll break the bad news to Dorion

 

[bert]

Funny that so many people like Rossi but not Quinn. There is a true anti north american bias on this forum. @FormentonTheFuture is right. Blatantly obvious if you have this stance you didnt watch the 67's at all. Will people openly admit that they dont like Quinn because he is from the Ottawa Valley. Do you have it in you?

I hate to do it but I just hate seeing people say stutzle is a center. If he becomes one. Fine. I’ll come here and admit I was wrong like I’ve done Everytime I’ve had to. But the guy is not going to be a center in the Nhl.

Can I borrow your crystal ball?

 

[Micklebot]

Funny that so many people like Rossi but not Quinn. There is a true anti north american bias on this forum. @FormentonTheFuture is right. Blatantly obvious if you have this stance you didnt watch the 67's at all. Will people openly admit that they dont like Quinn because he is from the Ottawa Valley. Do you have it in you?

Yeah, i suppose the scouts McKenzie polled, central scouting, Future considerations, ISS, and McKeens all haven't watched any 67s games and have an anti north american bias because they like Rossi more than Quinn too, right?

Nobody hates Quinn, they just like other highly regarded prospects better. Having him outside consideration for the top 5 in a deep draft isn't an insult or evidence of bias towards NA players...

 

[JungleBeat]

Funny that so many people like Rossi but not Quinn. There is a true anti north american bias on this forum. @FormentonTheFuture is right. Blatantly obvious if you have this stance you didnt watch the 67's at all. Will people openly admit that they dont like Quinn because he is from the Ottawa Valley. Do you have it in you?

What the hell. This just doesn’t make any sense. Nobody’s out to get North American players LOL.

 

[bert]

Yeah, i suppose the scouts McKenzie polled, central scouting, Future considerations, ISS, and McKeens all haven't watched any 67s games and have an anti north american bias because they like Rossi more than Quinn too, right?

Nobody hates Quinn, they just like other highly regarded prospects better. Having him outside consideration for the top 5 in a deep draft isn't an insult or evidence of bias towards NA players...

The scouts that have actually watched the players like Craig Button snd Brock Otten and many others have them very close. Even their own organizational members are split on who they would take in a draft.

How do you explain the anti Drysdale narrative then? All those scouting agencies have him higher but the same people that push Quinn down for some inexplicable reason are the anti Drysdale group.

I cant wait until Quinn proves he is on the same spectrum or better than Rossi at the next level.

 

[bert]

What the hell. This just doesn’t make any sense. Nobody’s out to get North American players LOL.

Ok Canadian born players. Looking at you inparticular. You have an inexplicable distain for Quinn.

 

[Tuna99]

I hate to do it but I just hate seeing people say stutzle is a center. If he becomes one. Fine. I’ll come here and admit I was wrong like I’ve done Everytime I’ve had to. But the guy is not going to be a center in the Nhl.

why not? His comparison is Brad Richards, very good NHL center. Won a Cup, Team Canada level player.

stuz might come in on the wing, but no reason he can’t play Center and be very good at it.

what makes you say he can’t play Center?

 

[Micklebot]

The scouts that have actually watched the players like Craig Button snd Brock Otten and many others have them very close. Even their own organizational members are split on who they would take in a draft.

How do you explain the anti Drysdale narrative then? All those scouting agencies have him higher but the same people that push Quinn down for some inexplicable reason are the anti Drysdale group.

I cant wait until Quinn proves he is on the same spectrum or better than Rossi at the next level.

So the scouts that agree with you watched and those that don't agree didn't? Seems kike a rationale argument.

Anti Drysdale narrative? Not really seeing it but if there is such a thing, it's likely just the usual group that wants more size out of their defenders rather than some bias against NA players or Canadians.

People have different opinions on what makes a player good, trying to attribute those opinions to some sort of anti Canadian bias or accusing people of not watching the players comes off as close minded and really doesn't do anything to move the conversation forward.

 

[Micklebot]

I hate to do it but I just hate seeing people say stutzle is a center. If he becomes one. Fine. I’ll come here and admit I was wrong like I’ve done Everytime I’ve had to. But the guy is not going to be a center in the Nhl.

What about his game do you feel doesn't translate to center in the NHL?

He can cover a lot of ice with his dynamic skating, is a great puck distributor, has projectable size, and while his defensive gane is still a work in progress he shows a willingness to play both ends of the ice. He's been a center all his career until this year i think, but was playing in a mens league so moving to the wing to adapt in a new league against bigger older players isnt unusual. He move back to center in the wjc and looked good doing it.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Funny that so many people like Rossi but not Quinn. There is a true anti north american bias on this forum. @FormentonTheFuture is right. Blatantly obvious if you have this stance you didnt watch the 67's at all. Will people openly admit that they dont like Quinn because he is from the Ottawa Valley. Do you have it in you?


Can I borrow your crystal ball?

Yup. And I don't care where a player is from at all. But it's something I've noticed with Sens fans, mainly due to most of our stars in the past being European/Swedish.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Funny that so many people like Rossi but not Quinn. There is a true anti north american bias on this forum. @FormentonTheFuture is right. Blatantly obvious if you have this stance you didnt watch the 67's at all. Will people openly admit that they dont like Quinn because he is from the Ottawa Valley. Do you have it in you?


Can I borrow your crystal ball?

lmao if im right can i brag about being clairvoyant?

its a prediction dude base on what i see.

dislaimer: lots of "wheres your crystal ball?" when i said ceci and cowen were going to continue being crap.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Damn, I'll break the bad news to Dorion

please do i cant get a hold of the guy.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

why not? His comparison is Brad Richards, very good NHL center. Won a Cup, Team Canada level player.

stuz might come in on the wing, but no reason he can’t play Center and be very good at it.

what makes you say he can’t play Center?

Brad richards??

 

[BigRig4]

It would be fun to do a poll similar to the top Sens prospects one where we count down which players we'd most want at 5. Just exclude the top 3 consensus guys and it would be really interesting. Anyone up for it?

 

[BigRig4]

I hate to do it but I just hate seeing people say stutzle is a center. If he becomes one. Fine. I’ll come here and admit I was wrong like I’ve done Everytime I’ve had to. But the guy is not going to be a center in the Nhl.

Looked good at C at the WJC.