Prospect Info: 5th Overall Pick 2020: Who Do The Sens Draft

[Sting]

What if we draft as 3-5, Jamie Drysdale and Jake Sanderson. Our defence will be ridiculously good. Arguably in the future, top pair - team Canada. Team USA and Sweden.

Assuming by some miracle both hit their peak, as well as our other current d-men...we'd have an unbelievable D core...that would likely be split up or shipped off by the time we're ready to contend since we have no forwards.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

What if we draft as 3-5, Jamie Drysdale and Jake Sanderson. Our defence will be ridiculously good. Arguably in the future, top pair - team Canada. Team USA and Sweden.

And then lose two of them in a couple years because we can’t pay big money for guys playing on your bottom pair.

 

[HSF]

No point having all of Chabot Sanderson drysdale Brannstrom and jbd that would be one expensive defense and would leave a weak forward group

a don’t mind drafting a center and top defensmen though

 

[Burrowsaurus]

No point having all of Chabot Sanderson drysdale Brannstrom and jbd that would be one expensive defense and would leave a weak forward group

a don’t mind drafting a center and top defensmen though

I’m starting to question if either are true too d men

 

[Sweatred]

I’m starting to question if either are true too d men

Not sure why ... ? in most games with the top prospects Drysdale is the BP on the ice behind LAF. I’m less worried of Drysdale ceiling than Byfield’s (who I like).

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I am of the very strong believer of having 3 star forwards and 3 excellent/star defenders and then revolving your team around those assets. The Ken Holland and then later the Bowman approach.

Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Frazen/Hossa

Lidstrom
Rafalski
Kronwall

vs

Kane
Toews
Hossa

Keith
Seabrook
Hjammer

Imo we have the following:

XXXX
XXXX
Tkachuk

Chabot
XXXX
XXXX

The first two XXXX's over Tkachuk can be found in this draft potentially. Say Stutzle/Byfield and Raymond and I firmly believe we could maybe find our defense core already in the system in say JBD and Brannstrom or via trade:

Stutzle/Byfield
Raymond
Tkachuk

Chabot
Sergachev
JBD

That's why im kind of a firm believer we really need to pick 2 forwards because as you can see from above, we have a legit possible top 5 defender who can lead us on that front but we severly lack in offensive ability relative to previous cup winners or powerhouses. I had to rank our best offensive talent in the 3rd slot. We do have Batherson, who im very excited about, but he's still a few season to possiblyyyyy filling the second slot.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

if we pick Sanderson and Drysdale we will be firmly secured for the defensive core in the future, imo.

Stutzle/By
XXXXX
Tkachuk

Chabot
Sanderson/Drysdale
Brannstrom/JBD

and maybe we trade future assets(including our excellent defensive depth) to secure that 2nd top spot or someone internally secures it like Batherson or Brown, or maybe we trade up from NYI and try to get Quinn or Lundell who might one day fill it and secures us more safely in the future core? Or maybe next year's pick or the NYI 1st and 4 seconds we hit homerun in just one of them?

 

[JungleBeat]

I am of the very strong believer of having 3 star forwards and 3 excellent/star defenders and then revolving your team around those assets. The Ken Holland and then later the Bowman approach.

Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Frazen/Hossa

Lidstrom
Rafalski
Kronwall

vs

Kane
Toews
Hossa

Keith
Seabrook
Hjammer

Imo we have the following:

XXXX
XXXX
Tkachuk

Chabot
XXXX
XXXX

The first two XXXX's over Tkachuk can be found in this draft potentially. Say Stutzle/Byfield and Raymond and I firmly believe we could maybe find our defense core already in the system in say JBD and Brannstrom or via trade:

Stutzle/Byfield
Raymond
Tkachuk

Chabot
Sergachev
JBD

That's why im kind of a firm believer we really need to pick 2 forwards because as you can see from above, we have a legit possible top 5 defender who can lead us on that front but we severly lack in offensive ability relative to previous cup winners or powerhouses. I had to rank our best offensive talent in the 3rd slot. We do have Batherson, who im very excited about, but he's still a few season to possiblyyyyy filling the second slot.

Cup winning high end forwards are harder to find than 2nd and 3rd dmen. Chabot is the 1D and is still getting better.

As it stands, nobody on the Sens roster is as talented as Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, Ovie, Kuznetsov, Backstrom, Tarasenko, O’Reilly, Kane and Towes etc.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Cup winning high end forwards are harder to find than 2nd and 3rd dmen. Chabot is the 1D and is still getting better.

As it stands, nobody on the Sens roster is as talented as Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, Ovie, Kuznetsov, Backstrom, Tarasenko, O’Reilly, Kane and Towes etc.

Yup, that's why I want us to draft forwards with our top 2 picks.

Even if one busts, the other still can be franchise altering for this team. If both pan out then we set for the future on offense. With that being said, it's easier to acquire a star forward via trade than an additional legit top pairing defender. If Drysdale/Sanderson have best potential out of anyone at number 5 it's hard to not pick them because then our future on defense would be fully cemented, we still walk away with star forward prospect.

Also, with cap flatlining and with expansion draft, imo a few star forwards/defenders will be available that normally havent been and could give us opportunity to snag one.

Also, in retrospect, picking Drysdale/Sanderson might actually give us best chance to compete because we would have easily the best defensive group in the east to match the offensive powerhouses of other eastern teams that we might not be able to go head to head with anyway (even if Raymond/perfetti and stutzle/by reach potential).

 

[Sweatred]

I am of the very strong believer of having 3 star forwards and 3 excellent/star defenders and then revolving your team around those assets. The Ken Holland and then later the Bowman approach.

Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Frazen/Hossa

Lidstrom
Rafalski
Kronwall

vs

Kane
Toews
Hossa

Keith
Seabrook
Hjammer

Imo we have the following:

XXXX
XXXX
Tkachuk

Chabot
XXXX
XXXX

The first two XXXX's over Tkachuk can be found in this draft potentially. Say Stutzle/Byfield and Raymond and I firmly believe we could maybe find our defense core already in the system in say JBD and Brannstrom or via trade:

Stutzle/Byfield
Raymond
Tkachuk

Chabot
Sergachev
JBD

That's why im kind of a firm believer we really need to pick 2 forwards because as you can see from above, we have a legit possible top 5 defender who can lead us on that front but we severly lack in offensive ability relative to previous cup winners or powerhouses. I had to rank our best offensive talent in the 3rd slot. We do have Batherson, who im very excited about, but he's still a few season to possiblyyyyy filling the second slot.

I agree but I’d expand to JBD/Lassi ... I thinks it’s a coin toss between the two and I may go Lassi 51%/JBD 49%.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I agree but I’d expand to JBD/Lassi ... I thinks it’s a coin toss between the two and I may go Lassi 51%/JBD 49%.

Yup, the proven number 1 defender in Chabot and really strong top 4 defensive prospects is why this draft should be all about trying to hit homeruns on offense with almost everyone of our picks in the first 2 rounds (or whenever we get opportunity to) example: id still look deeply at Guhle because he would be awesome on our 2nd pair.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Yup, the proven number 1 defender in Chabot and really strong top 4 defensive prospects is why this draft should be all about trying to hit homeruns on offense with almost everyone of our picks in the first 2 rounds (or whenever we get opportunity to) example: id still look deeply at Guhle because he would be awesome on our 2nd pair.

If we go 2 F 3 and 5 .. and the Isles lose their play in, We should look at Guhle hard and I would be very surprised if they didn't although they may like Schneider as well. I prefer Guhle. If Jarvis is sitting there in that 13-15 slot if we are lucky enough (fat chance) , anyway . I think it would be very hard to turn him down.
It is just as likely overall that they go F, D, and try to move up for another F.

Lots of options.

To walk away with Byfield/Stuzle, one of Rossi, Raymond, Perfetti and Jarvis in the 1st would be a home fn run draft. We could still have all our 2nds to move up and take 2 D like O'Rourke and Barron ..

 

[GCK]

If we go 2 F 3 and 5 .. and the Isles lose their play in, We should look at Guhle hard and I would be very surprised if they didn't although they may like Schneider as well. I prefer Guhle. If Jarvis is sitting there in that 13-15 slot if we are lucky enough (fat chance) , anyway . I think it would be very hard to turn him down.
It is just as likely overall that they go F, D, and try to move up for another F.

Lots of options.

To walk away with Byfield/Stuzle, one of Rossi, Raymond, Perfetti and Jarvis in the 1st would be a home fn run draft. We could still have all our 2nds to move up and take 2 D like O'Rourke and Barron ..

That is close to my realistic dream draft is 1st/2nd choice

Byfield/Stutzle
Raymond/Drysdale
Mercer/Gunler
Barron/Peterka
Evangelista/Jarventie
Pashin/Savoie

Will Cranley with a 7th round pick

I think 7 picks is plenty with 5 excellent prospects, 1 boom or bust pick and a late round goalie who I see having a great year this season.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That is close to my realistic dream draft is 1st/2nd choice

Byfield/Stutzle
Raymond/Drysdale
Mercer/Gunler
Barron/Peterka
Evangelista/Jarventie
Pashin/Savoie

Will Cranley with a 7th round pick

I think 7 picks is plenty with 5 excellent prospects, 1 boom or bust pick and a late round goalie who I see having a great year this season.

Quite a few players to like in this draft . Particularly forwards

 

[BondraTime]

If we go 2 F 3 and 5 .. and the Isles lose their play in, We should look at Guhle hard and I would be very surprised if they didn't although they may like Schneider as well. I prefer Guhle. If Jarvis is sitting there in that 13-15 slot if we are lucky enough (fat chance) , anyway . I think it would be very hard to turn him down.
It is just as likely overall that they go F, D, and try to move up for another F.

Lots of options.

To walk away with Byfield/Stuzle, one of Rossi, Raymond, Perfetti and Jarvis in the 1st would be a home fn run draft. We could still have all our 2nds to move up and take 2 D like O'Rourke and Barron ..

Yeah, Guhle is the guy we should be looking to take if we go forward forward, though I can’t see him lasting past 15, Isles would need to lose like you said, I don’t like any of the other D in the 20ish range.

 

[GCK]

Yeah, Guhle is the guy we should be looking to take if we go forward forward, though I can’t see him lasting past 15, Isles would need to lose like you said, I don’t like any of the other D in the 20ish range.

I’m good with 3 forwards in the first round. I think Barron will be a steal for someone late first.

 

[GCK]

Future top 9 of

Raymond Byfield Batherson
Tkachuk Norris Mercer
Formenton White C. Brown

That gets me into a ticket package in 2022/23

 

[ijif]

I hope we select three forwards in the first round. Based on Bob's list and public rankings, it seems that Guhle, Schneider, and Barron will be the defenders taken in the middle of the first round. I have no interest in selecting any of the above players with a middle of the first selection.

The worst-case scenario for me is taking Sanderson at #5, and one of the three defenders mentioned with the NYI pick.

 

[Cosmix]

I hope we get Byfield with our #3 pick and Drysdale/Raymond with our #5 pick. I think we will probably get Stutzle at #3 and Drysdale/Raymond at #5. It’s too bad we have to wait until October to find out.

 

[tardigrade81]

Future top 9 of

Raymond Byfield Batherson
Tkachuk Norris Mercer
Formenton White C. Brown

That gets me into a ticket package in 2022/23

Playoff team right there.

 

[BoardsofCanada]

Personally, I'd like to keep Duclair and Connor Brown in our team plans in the future so, I'd go forward at #3 and Drysdale at #5. And I'd experiment with Logan on the wing.

Tkachuk Byfield Batherson
L. Brown Norris Duclair
Formenton White C. Brown
Chlapik Pinto Abramov
Paul

Chabot Drysdale
Brannstrom JBD
Wolanin Thompson
Jaros

Hogberg
Daccord
Sogaard
Mando

 

[bert]

Cup winning high end forwards are harder to find than 2nd and 3rd dmen. Chabot is the 1D and is still getting better.

As it stands, nobody on the Sens roster is as talented as Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, Ovie, Kuznetsov, Backstrom, Tarasenko, O’Reilly, Kane and Towes etc.

Byfield Tkachuk is easily there with Tarasenko, O'Rielly. Too be honest they should be better. Scoring wingers are way easier to find than top pairind d men. If you want the sens to be built like St Louis they are taking a d man 100 percent at 5. What you said is not true at all. Incredible that you used O'Rielly as an example really, he has been trade twice at pennies for the dollar. Tarasenko was also drafted right around where the Islanders pick is going to be. Meanwhile St Louis's best player is a D man they picked 4th overall.

 

[JungleBeat]

Byfield Tkachuk is easily there with Tarasenko, O'Rielly. Too be honest they should be better. Scoring wingers are way easier to find than top pairind d men. If you want the sens to be built like St Louis they are taking a d man 100 percent at 5. What you said is not true at all. Incredible that you used O'Rielly as an example really, he has been trade twice at pennies for the dollar. Tarasenko was also drafted right around where the Islanders pick is going to be. Meanwhile St Louis's best player is a D man they picked 4th overall.

Byfield is not a Senator yet and very well may not even end up in Ottawa. I don’t see Tkachuk as being in the level as Taransenko who is a 30 + goal scorer and 70 point player or O’Reilly who is a 60 point two way centre. You’re either severely overrating Brady or underrating the Blues’ duo.

There’s a reason O’Reilly was nicknamed Ryan O’Money in Colorado, their relationship soured and he had high contract demands leading him to go to Buffalo, while with the Sabres he demanded for being on a garbage team.

 

[bert]

Byfield is not a Senator yet and very well may not even end up in Ottawa. I don’t see Tkachuk as being in the level as Taransenko who is a 30 + goal scorer and 70 point player or O’Reilly who is a 60 point two way centre.

There’s a reason O’Reilly was nicknamed Ryan O’Money in Colorado, their relationship soured and he had high contract demands leading him to go to Buffalo, while with the Sabres he demanded for being on a garbage team.

You just said that cup winning forwards are harder to find than d men. I just gave two examples of the Blues forwards being easy to aquire.

St louis is built from the back end out. Its easier to get scoring wingers it just is. Centermen and top end D men are harder to aquire.

Tkachuk is tracking to be just as good as both Tarasenko and ORielly. He is kind of a mix of both of those players. Lots of intangibles like Orielly but position of tarsenko. Similar production to Orielly but more goals like tarasenko.

The sens are getting one of Stutzle or Byfield who also project to be in that tier if not better.

 

[Micklebot]

I hope we select three forwards in the first round. Based on Bob's list and public rankings, it seems that Guhle, Schneider, and Barron will be the defenders taken in the middle of the first round. I have no interest in selecting any of the above players with a middle of the first selection.

The worst-case scenario for me is taking Sanderson at #5, and one of the three defenders mentioned with the NYI pick.

I prefer the forwards in that range too, I think one of those D could slip to 33 or someone like Walinder who would be a nice choice with our 2nd imo.