Prospect Info: 5th Overall Pick 2020: Who Do The Sens Draft

[FormentonTheFuture]

He's not a better skater, IQ is debatable and by compete, do you mean more physical?

It has been widely accepted that Sanderson is a better skater

 

[bert]

It has been widely accepted that Sanderson is a better skater

Sanderson is faster in a straight line, I dont think his edgework or agility is as good.

 

[BoardsofCanada]

If Dorion doesn't take one of the forwards at #5 (Raymond, Rossi, Perfetti) I predict we'll all be regretting it when looking back in a few years.

 

[Tuna99]

People are just going to have get used to the idea that Sanderson is a better skater with greater hockey sense and compete than Drysdale. Drysdale's offensive game is completely overrated; he is a quick, agile skater, but is lack of extension limits the speed and power of his stride. Don't get me wrong, he is fast, but not Sanderson fast. For example, Thimo Nickl - a RD- beat Drysdale in the 30M Forward Skate at the top prospects combine. I really don't think there is that much separation in terms of skill. They are pretty close.

I don't buy that LD isn't a need. Besides, I thought we were supposed to pick BPA?
Brannstrom and Wolanin can both play RD and neither is sure bet. The best situation would be Brannstrom moves to RD, where he is most offensively comfortable, anyway.

skating fast with the puck under control and your brain be able to process the game is speed, not being able to skate Fast in a race. I doubt the prospect you mentioned could come close to doing anything at a Drysdale level with a puck on his stick and 9 other skaters around him.

And agree, LD is a a need but Just at depth positions. RD we don’t have a #1

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

skating fast with the puck under control and your brain be able to process the game is speed, not being able to skate Fast in a race. I doubt the prospect you mentioned could come close to doing anything at a Drysdale level with a puck on his stick and 9 other skaters around him.

And agree, LD is a a need but Just at depth positions. RD we don’t have a #1

You should watch his highlights then.

And I have Drysdale over him.

 

[BondraTime]

Sanderson is as good/better skater now, and projecting his skating in the pros I see him having the edge quite easily.

Puckwork and vision in the offensive zone goes to Drysdale.

Drysdale is a fantastic, fantastic skater, I just see and project Sanderson as better in the pros, and I see more to work with to make improvements.

I’d take Sanderson if given the choice, but I am perfectly fine with the Sens taking Drysdale over him

 

[JungleBeat]

Boqvist vs Dobson vs Sanderson vs Drysdale

Sanderson doesn’t seem to be as highly regarded as other dmen recently that were recently drafted.

 

[BondraTime]

Boqvist vs Dobson vs Sanderson vs Drysdale

Sanderson doesn’t seem to be as highly regarded as other dmen recently that were recently drafted.

That’s always been the case, he’s always been behind in the vote. It was 85-15 in the poll on this board, and is likely similar on most other boards, and is easily the least exposed of all the guys.

I’m surprised he got any votes in that honestly.

 

[aragorn]

- I think Ottawa takes Drysdale RD at #5, if still available or Raymond RW if not.

- I would take Askarov G or Sanderson LD

 

[JungleBeat]

That’s always been the case, he’s always been behind in the vote. It was 85-15 in the poll on this board, and is likely similar on most other boards, and is easily the least exposed of all the guys.

I’m surprised he got any votes in that honestly.

The competition in the USHL is a step below the OHL in my opinion, it says a lot when a team full of 16 and 17 year olds can stay competitive in that league.

Sanderson is unlucky that he missed out on the U18 tournament, that would have been a useful measuring stick when comparing to other dmen.

 

[benjiv1]

Haven’t been able to follow the draft As closely as usually, with Covid causing work to be nuts.

What’s the gap between Sanderson and say Guhle?

 

[BondraTime]

The competition in the USHL is a step below the OHL in my opinion, it says a lot when a team full of 16 and 17 year olds can stay competitive in that league.

Sanderson is unlucky that he missed out on the U18 tournament, that would have been a useful measuring stick when comparing to other dmen.

Yeah, his season being cut short hurts more than the CHL kids for sure, especially not being able to play the Hlinka. Likewise with a guy like Villeneuve who would have had his stock rise after his first round and U-18, he should be available in the mid 3rd now compared to a 2nd round I thought he’d move up to.

USHL is definitely a step below the OHl, though not by a very large amount.

It’s not a usual team of 16-17 year old’s, 90% of those guys are drafted each year compared to the average of ~2 per team in the CHL and elsewhere. They would be competitive in the CHL as well, though would definitely have a worse record.

They are competitive in the NCAA as well, which is a much better league than the USHL.

 

[Sens in Process]

The competition in the USHL is a step below the OHL in my opinion, it says a lot when a team full of 16 and 17 year olds can stay competitive in that league.

Sanderson is unlucky that he missed out on the U18 tournament, that would have been a useful measuring stick when comparing to other dmen.

Here is the thing, Sanderson has played very well against NCAA teams and dominated against his peer group at U18 and American top prospects game. It has also been well documented that CHL is a run and gun league, allowing a high rate of odd men chances.

And I wouldn't get too worked about HFboard consensus or what blogger boys think, they are often flat out wrong.

I believe the vast majority here would have taken Zarina over Tkachuk and on the Montreal board there was very strong anti-Tkachuk sentiment.

 

[JungleBeat]

Here is the thing, Sanderson has played very well against NCAA teams and dominated against his peer group at U18 and American top prospects game. It has also been well documented that CHL is a run and gun league, allowing a high rate of odd men chances.

And I wouldn't get too worked about HFboard consensus or what blogger boys think, they are often flat out wrong.

I believe the vast majority here would have taken Zarina over Tkachuk and on the Montreal board there was very strong anti-Tkachuk sentiment.

The five nations that Sanderson played in this year as a 17 year old is not comparable to the WJCU18 tournament that was unfortunately cancelled, Drysdale played in the WJC18 as one of the only two 02’ born players last year and did fairly well as a 16 year old. The Hilinka is more competitive than the five nations in my opinion, in which Drysdale was the captain of team Canada and was ppg.

Sanderson played 17 games in the NCAA with a 6 - 11 record. 4 points in 17 makes me raise an eyebrow. The top prospects game means very little in the grande scheme of things, Sanderson’s team played with each other for two years while the opponent was just put together.

 

[BondraTime]

The five nations that Sanderson played in this year as a 17 year old is not comparable to the WJCU18 tournament that was unfortunately cancelled, Drysdale played in the WJC18 as one of the only two 02’ born players last year and did fairly well as a 16 year old. The Hilinka is more competitive than the five nations in my opinion, in which Drysdale was the captain of team Canada and was ppg.

Sanderson played 17 games in the NCAA with a 6 - 11 record. 4 points in 17 makes me raise an eyebrow. The top prospects game means very little in the grande scheme of things, Sanderson’s team played with each other for two years while the opponent was just put together.

That’s not too out of place looking at others.

York in a full season last year only had 7 points against NCAA teams in a season he set a NTDP record for D scoring, and he’s an offensive D who played on a team with Zegras, Turcotte, Caulfield, Boldy, etc. up front.

I wouldn’t look at his scoring against NCAA teams as a measuring stick.

He never had the offensive production looking at stat sheets that others did, especially high rated guys, no doubt. It’s more what scouts are projecting him elsewhere. Some people see things they really like, like myself, and some people seem to not see much projectable skills in him right now, or I guess in the future.

I think Sanderson is going to put up 25ish points in ND next season to go along with the rest of his game.

 

[bert]

Boqvist vs Dobson vs Sanderson vs Drysdale

Sanderson doesn’t seem to be as highly regarded as other dmen recently that were recently drafted.

The main board projects a more accurate assesment then the sens board of those two players.

Here is the thing, Sanderson has played very well against NCAA teams and dominated against his peer group at U18 and American top prospects game. It has also been well documented that CHL is a run and gun league, allowing a high rate of odd men chances.

And I wouldn't get too worked about HFboard consensus or what blogger boys think, they are often flat out wrong.

I believe the vast majority here would have taken Zarina over Tkachuk and on the Montreal board there was very strong anti-Tkachuk sentiment.

The real hockey scouts also have Drysdale ahead. Its the opposite of what you are describing its actually the internet scouts that are pushing Sanderson. There are certain posters that are posting completely innacurate descriptions of Drysdale. If people can't identify that he is a dynamic, elite skater by just watching tape then you probably dont have a great idea about skating in general.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

- I think Ottawa takes Drysdale RD at #5, if still available or Raymond RW if not.

- I would take Askarov G or Sanderson LD

Strider if we get byfield and Sanderson and then trade up for askarov would you cry? I legit would be happy for you.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

The main board projects a more accurate assesment then the sens board of those two players.


The real hockey scouts also have Drysdale ahead. Its the opposite of what you are describing its actually the internet scouts that are pushing Sanderson. There are certain posters that are posting completely innacurate descriptions of Drysdale. If people can't identify that he is a dynamic, elite skater by just watching tape then you probably dont have a great idea about skating in general.

Except for those two NHL scouts that have Sanderson third.

 

[bert]

Except for those two NHL scouts that have Sanderson third.

The other 8 out of 10 that have Drysdale ahead. 20% is less than the amount of posters pushing Sanderson on this board.

 

[aragorn]

Strider if we get byfield and Sanderson and then trade up for askarov would you cry? I legit would be happy for you.

Ahhhh ... nobody has called me Strider for a while & I'd shed a tear or two for those three as well. Merci la.

 

[Crosside]

I think if Dorion have no interest to draft Raymond, I would prefer he trade back. New Jersey would be a good partner. The 5 th and Isles pick vs 7 th and Arizona pick ( just if he loose are play in ) and we can pick Askarov and Quinn

 

[BondraTime]

The other 8 out of 10 that have Drysdale ahead. 20% is less than the amount of posters pushing Sanderson on this board.

111 out of 138 voters on the Sens board took Drysdale, 2 out of 10 scouts is a higher % than the Sens board favouring Sanderson. Sens board pushing Sanderson falls in line with the scouts nearly exactly, the Sens board isn’t overly infatuated with Sanderson at all, there’s just a ton of pushback whenever one of the ~20% that do like him more bring up Sanderson that creates lots of posts.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I think if Dorion have no interest to draft Raymond, I would prefer he trade back. New Jersey would be a good partner. The 5 th and Isles pick vs 7 th and Arizona pick ( just if he loose are play in ) and we can pick Askarov and Quinn

mid there was ever a draft to wheel and deal in the top ten it’s this one.

 

[BoardsofCanada]

Ryan Lindgren, Bode Wilde, Matte Samuelson and Cam York all came up through the US Under 18 team and all posted about the same points as Sanderson. None of them are putting up big numbers today.

Ryan Lindgren and his 14 points and +6 with the NHL Rangers is about what Sanderson will be (IMO).

Sanderson is a great skating defensive d-man. We had one of those.. his name was Chris Phillips and as great a guy as he was, he always left me wanting more.

Sanderson will be a 12-15 point defensive d-man in the NHL. That's fine but at 5th overall?

Meanwhile Raymond/Rossi become all stars putting up 65 points a season.

This is of course all conjecture and is just my gut feeling.

 

[BondraTime]

Ryan Lindgren, Bode Wilde, Matte Samuelson and Cam York all came up through the US Under 18 team and all posted about the same points as Sanderson. None of them are putting up big numbers today.

Ryan Lindgren and his 14 points and +6 with the NHL Rangers is about what Sanderson will be (IMO).

Sanderson is a great skating defensive d-man. We had one of those.. his name was Chris Phillips and as great a guy as he was, he always left me wanting more.

Sanderson will be a 12-15 point defensive d-man in the NHL. That's fine but at 5th overall?

Meanwhile Raymond/Rossi become all stars putting up 65 points a season.

This is of course is all conjecture and is just my gut feeling.

Ryan Lindgren put up less points than Sanderson in 15 more games on an exponentially higher scoring team, is not as good a skater, not as big, and not as good defensively.

That projection is so far from what I see and project from him. It’s because of these differing projections of a guy that there is so much discourse and division around him.