Prospect Info: 5th Overall Pick 2020: Who Do The Sens Draft

[bert]

Not really, There is no guarantee that he will be better than Brannstrom, B-Docker or even Wolanin,

Al though, he is a great prospect, he also a bit over-valued due to the fact that he is the only Defensman ranked top 10 in a deep draft

Gonna have to dissagree with almost everything in this post. Thats like saying Stutzle or Byfield wouldnt be the sens best forward prospect.

Absolutely not over valued in this draft if anything he isnt getting enough respect. Atleast on the sens board. Go look at the last 10 d men that played for team canada WJC at 17 years old. Then take into account he had one of if not the best showings of all of them. Best primary pts per 60 of any draft elgible d man and plays an effortless game similar to Niedermayer or Zubov.

It appears most sens fans want them to stray away from the BPA strategy as i keep reading posters wanting the team to go forward forward no matter what. Which I understand people want exciting offensive prospects to cheer for. Our neighbours down the road have a team built like that and its shoved down our throats. If you look at it objectively that team is not built right. Deep D cores with multiple first pairing d men with a heavy group of forwards is how St Louis is built and to me thats what the sens are looking like. With the type of teams Tampa and Toronto are I think the sens should try and build the team more in the Boston St Louis mold.

With the size the sens already have up front I hope they continue to build from the back end.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Teravainen was still on the board. Everyone knew whoever got him would be getting a steal.

Another guy who slipped due to supposed character concerns.

Drafting a hockey player instead of a personality is the easiest way of getting a draft steal, and the easiest way of avoiding a draft bust.

 

[Tuna99]

With knowing very little about the draft class next year, is there such a thing as too many D prospects? If anything I like the options it would give them.

They would still be able to evaluate JBD, Brannstrom, Thomson etc. and add another high end prospect in the system.

only thing about taking Drysdsle is that he, JBD and Thomson will all be breaking into the league the same year after next season so it’s be a tough road for the players, coaches and team.

but I like Drysdale. Would be happy if they took him

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Not really, There is no guarantee that he will be better than Brannstrom, B-Docker or even Wolanin,

Al though, he is a great prospect, he also a bit over-valued due to the fact that he is the only Defensman ranked top 10 in a deep draft

He’d be the Sens new second best prospect overall behind the #3 pick.

 

[BondraTime]

Not really, There is no guarantee that he will be better than Brannstrom, B-Docker or even Wolanin,

Al though, he is a great prospect, he also a bit over-valued due to the fact that he is the only Defensman ranked top 10 in a deep draft

He’s not the only D ranked top 10, and he’d be ranked in a similar fashion even if this draft had Dobson, Hughes and Boqvist in the top 10.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

He’d be the Sens new second best prospect overall behind the #3 pick.

By a healthy margin. Whoever we get with our top two will quickly join Tkachuk and Chabot as this teams young leaders

 

[BondraTime]

By a healthy margin. Whoever we get with our top two will quickly join Tkachuk and Chabot as this teams young leaders

Yeah, whichever guys we take at 3 and 5 are way, way ahead of our other prospects. They will be the only real high quality guys we have, to go along with our fantastic depth.

Right now we have high end depth, possibly top in the league, but no true high end prospects.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

He’s not the only D ranked top 10, and he’d be ranked in a similar fashion even if this draft had Dobson, Hughes and Boqvist in the top 10.

I’d say he’s in a different level than Dobson and boqvist too

 

[Hale The Villain]

I’d say he’s in a different level than Dobson and boqvist too

Agree on Boqvist but not Dobson. He was a 6'4 all-situations D that had over a PPG and almost led his team in scoring as a 17YR old.

Has all the makings of a stud top pairing RD, just like Drysdale. Hopefully NYI's horrible development choices won't limit him going forward.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I’d say he’s in a different level than Dobson and boqvist too

I would take Dobson ahead of Drysdale , so if that's what you mean ,, sure.
I would take Drysdale over Boqvist looking at both in their draft years but Boqvist has developed pretty nicely. This one is closer for me. Same level. One better 2 way, One better offensively.

 

[bert]

I would take Dobson ahead of Drysdale , so if that's what you mean ,, sure.
I would take Drysdale over Boqvist looking at both in their draft years but Boqvist has developed pretty nicely. This one is closer for me. Same level. One better 2 way, One better offensively.

Really eh, interesting. Drysdale is ahead of Dobson at the same age. However you brought up Dobsons size, he is a bigger player and likely on a longer development path. A good debate for sure, I like both players alot.

I’d say he’s in a different level than Dobson and boqvist too

I agree he would likely be the highest ranked of all of them Makar too if he was in the same draft. They would be close but he has accomplished more than all of them at the same age.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I would take Dobson ahead of Drysdale , so if that's what you mean ,, sure.
I would take Drysdale over Boqvist looking at both in their draft years but Boqvist has developed pretty nicely. This one is closer for me. Same level. One better 2 way, One better offensively.

Right now I'd go Hughes, Dobson, Drysdale, Sanderson, Boqvist. At the time of the draft I had Dobson ahead of Hughes, with Boqvist a pretty significant tier behind them.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Really eh, interesting. Drysdale is ahead of Dobson at the same age. However you brought up Dobsons size, he is a bigger player and likely on a longer development path. A good debate for sure, I like both players alot.

I've really liked Dobson. I could have handled picking him at #4 in 2018. Glad we got Tkachuk but Dobson would have been fine with me.

Ahead in what way?

 

[bert]

I've really liked Dobson. I could have handled picking him at #4 in 2018. Glad we got Tkachuk but Dobson would have been fine with me.

Ahead in what way?

He is a better player at 17 then Dobson was. Doesnt mean Dobson wont end up the better player but he doesnt have the same level of impact as Drysdale does at the moment.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

I would take Dobson ahead of Drysdale , so if that's what you mean ,, sure.
I would take Drysdale over Boqvist looking at both in their draft years but Boqvist has developed pretty nicely. This one is closer for me. Same level. One better 2 way, One better offensively.

No that’s not what I meant. I think Drysdale is the better prospect going into their respective drafts

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Gonna have to dissagree with almost everything in this post. Thats like saying Stutzle or Byfield wouldnt be the sens best forward prospect.

Absolutely not over valued in this draft if anything he isnt getting enough respect. Atleast on the sens board. Go look at the last 10 d men that played for team canada WJC at 17 years old. Then take into account he had one of if not the best showings of all of them. Best primary pts per 60 of any draft elgible d man and plays an effortless game similar to Niedermayer or Zubov.

It appears most sens fans want them to stray away from the BPA strategy as i keep reading posters wanting the team to go forward forward no matter what. Which I understand people want exciting offensive prospects to cheer for. Our neighbours down the road have a team built like that and its shoved down our throats. If you look at it objectively that team is not built right. Deep D cores with multiple first pairing d men with a heavy group of forwards is how St Louis is built and to me thats what the sens are looking like. With the type of teams Tampa and Toronto are I think the sens should try and build the team more in the Boston St Louis mold.

With the size the sens already have up front I hope they continue to build from the back end.

I agree with most of this. The Sens shave some nice size up front but they lack elite skill. I'd like to see them address that. Whatever happens I just hope they pick the players that are going to be the best NHLers regardless of position.

I personally want the following options:

#3 - Byfield/Stuzle
#5 - Raymond/Drysdale

Any combination of that is A-OK with me. I have Raymond slightly ahead of Drysdale but I'll be happy with either. In 2-3 years we could have one of Drysdale or Chabot on the ice for 50+ mins per night. Hard to get upset with that kind of result.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I agree with most of this. The Sens shave some nice size up front but they lack elite skill. I'd like to see them address that. Whatever happens I just hope they pick the players that are going to be the best NHLers regardless of position.

I personally want the following options:

#3 - Byfield/Stuzle
#5 - Raymond/Drysdale

Any combination of that is A-OK with me. I have Raymond slightly ahead of Drysdale but I'll be happy with either. In 2-3 years we could have one of Drysdale or Chabot on the ice for 50+ mins per night. Hard to get upside with that kind of result.

Wings board at the moment for 4OA has them

Raymond
Drysdale
Rossi

 

[Tuna99]

He is a better player at 17 then Dobson was. Doesnt mean Dobson wont end up the better player but he doesnt have the same level of impact as Drysdale does at the moment.

watched the 2009 WJC game yesterday, top pairing was:

Hickey - Myers

2nd pairing was:

Subban - Pieternagelo

3rd pairing

Ellis - Goloibeuf

Lots of growing for all these players to do.

 

[Answer]

Drysdale is ranked 11th overall in the history of OHL for PPG

Cody CECI is ranked 14th


Rossi plays for 67's - so did Cody CECI

 

[Shruggs Peterson]

Drysdale is ranked 11th overall in the history of OHL for PPG

Cody CECI is ranked 14th


Rossi plays for 67's - so did Cody CECI

Wait is this an argument to not pick either Drysdale or Rossi? Because by 6 degrees of separation there is a connection to Cody Ceci?

 

[SENATOR]

Wings board at the moment for 4OA has them

Raymond
Drysdale
Rossi

Stutzle will be gone to LA. No chance for Sens or Detroit. He will be as good as Alexis Lafreniere . Stutzle is a better skater then Lafreniere, better with the puck, just a marvel to watch. Can play center. Stutzle is already developed product and will be even better.

 

[Boud]

Drysdale is ranked 11th overall in the history of OHL for PPG

Cody CECI is ranked 14th


Rossi plays for 67's - so did Cody CECI

I remember the day I fell down a cliff with my adidas shoes and broke my ankle.

I've never worn adidas shoes again after that and haven't broken my ankle.

Safe to say Adidas shoes break ankles.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

You're from Montreal right? And you're in an internet debate with @bert about a player that he sees live all the time as a frequent attendee at 67 games.

Don't you find that odd?

I mean there's a lot guys here that can go head to head with Bert on this because they too frequently attend games...but an out of towner?

In this corner, weighing in with over 25 you tube clips watched....sorry man, sometimes you just gotta bow to someone's personal experience and listen rather than speak....meh...maybe that's just me.

Bert's criticism of Rossi is based on his size bias, regardless of how many times he's seen him. That's what I'm arguing, because there's nothing about his actual play he seems to dislike. It's all about projections at the NHL level, and as far as I know no one can see into the future, not even Bert.

 

[JungleBeat]

I’d take Boqvist over Sanderson and Dobson without a doubt. He has 1#D upside that I don’t see with the others.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I’d take Boqvist over Sanderson and Dobson without a doubt. He has 1#D upside that I don’t see with the others.

Small D that isn't a great skater and generally isn't all that interested in playing D.

High offensive upside but I can't see him having enough of an all-around game to consider him a #1 D.