Prospect Info: #5 OA - Barrett Hayton - Center - Back to the OHL
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RemoAZ
Let it burn
No, which doesn't mean much as I don't follow these kids until they are drafted, but Zadina fell for a reason. If you would have said Tkachuk, I would have said yes.
Bonsai Tree
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One player certainly can make a team. Gretzky. Mario, Alex, Cindy. They all made their teams what they were. Generational players do that. The only reason why McDonald hasn't already made his team a perennial contender is, well, Edmonton.
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I think Hayton needs a 90-100+ point season pace that can only be jeopardized in absolute numbers by a strong showing at WJC. If that occurs maybe Chayka and co are on to something.
If he makes the WJC team I will be impressed as well. That’s a tough team to make at 18.
If he makes the WJC team I will be impressed as well. That’s a tough team to make at 18.
Totally disagree. Not one of those players did it by them self. Each had a very good supporting staff.
I'll freely admit I had no idea who Hayton was before we picked him.
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The Coyotes are a very good supporting staff. They would go far with just the addition of a Crosby, Ovi, or McDavid. Most teams outside the top 10 are very good supporting staff, lacking the one special player which would make the team great.
Not yet. Third from last place last year. We have a few nice pieces, but nothing more. None are a Messier, Kurri, Anderson, etc. yet. We are an unproved bunch.
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Clean Hits on Substack
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I'm willing to see if Chayka and co's analysis has identified the next Bergeron. This was a huge statement pick. I can't emphasize it enough. The easy play was Zadina. Nobody would have questioned it. This is a bold move. It's a we are going all in on our philosophy on how to build a team. I may not agree with passing on a talent like Zadina but I'm willing to keep an open mind.
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Let's see how it plays out before we declare disaster. There is potential for Chayka to have nailed this pick. Expectations need to be ugh though. Strong statistical start and making a WJC go a long way to provide reassurance.
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I think that, by and large, there has to be one player, a Tom Brady, a Peyton Manning, Lawrence Taylor, LeBron James, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Sid, Mario, TGO, to make a championship team. That one player who lifts everyone around him to perform greater feats as he, himself performs great feats, is what makes a championship.
I rarely hear accolades about how the #7 hitter, the #2 starter, the second line center or first man off the bench carried his team to a championship.
Disagreeing with Jakey, I truly believe that while supporting staff are important, it's that star who drives a team to championship levels.
I rarely hear accolades about how the #7 hitter, the #2 starter, the second line center or first man off the bench carried his team to a championship.
Disagreeing with Jakey, I truly believe that while supporting staff are important, it's that star who drives a team to championship levels.
Doughty will be in the HoF I think.
Kopitar has a shot as well. He's pretty comparable to players who made it like Modano and Sundin. He'll have to remain consistent though.
Kopitar has a shot as well. He's pretty comparable to players who made it like Modano and Sundin. He'll have to remain consistent though.
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NHL Network reveals top 50 prospects
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NHL Network reveals top 50 prospects
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- Rasmus Dahlin, D, BUF
- Andrei Svechnikov, RW, CAR
- Elias Pettersson, C, VAN
- Miro Heiskanen, D, DAL
- Casey Mittelstadt, C, BUF
- Filip Zadina, RW, DET
- Eeli Tolvanen, RW, NSH
- Cale Makar, D, COL
- Quinn Hughes, D, VAN
- Kirill Kaprizov, LW, MIN
- Martin Necas, C, CAR
- Cody Glass, C, VGK
- Robert Thomas, C, STL
- Gabriel Vilardi, C, LAK
- Ilya Samsonov, G, WSH
- Filip Chytil, C, NYR
- Brady Tkachuk, LW, OTT
- Kristian Vesalainen, LW, WPG
- Evan Bouchard, D, EDM
- Oliver Wahlstrom, RW, NYI
- Noah Dobson, D, NYI
- Jesperi Kotkaniemi, C, MTL
- Henrik Borgstrom, C, FLA
- Carter Hart, G, PHI
- Igor Shesterkin, G, NYR
- Jordan Kyrou, C, STL
- Morgan Frost, C, PHI
- Ryan Donato, LW, BOS
- Adam Boqvist, D, CHI
- Sam Steel, C, ANA
- Lias Andersson, C, NYR
- Juuso Valimaki, D, CGY
- Olli Juolevi, D, VAN
- Barret Hayton, C, ARI
- Vitali Kravstov, RW, NYR
- Erik Brannstrom, D, VGK
- Ilya Sorokin, G, NYI
- Logan Brown, C, OTT
- Timothy Liljegren, D, TOR
- Alexander Nylander, RW, BUF
- Callan Foote, D, TBL
- Ty Smith, D, NJD
- Connor Timmins, D, COL
- Philippe Myers, D, PHI
- Kailer Yamamoto, RW, EDM
- Michael Rasmussen, C, DET
- Sami Niku, D, WPG
- Adam Fox, D, CAR
- Vitaly Abramov, RW, CBJ
- Adam Gaudette, C, VAN
moosemeister
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I agree. It's hard to win the SC, you need that right mix, and you need that star player or players to lead. What I was trying to say is that one star player won't bring you that cup. TGO had help, Mario had help, Kane had help, Sid had help etc. and lots of it. I think we kind of agree, but are saying it different.
We could have had #5 and 6 on that list, but we have Stepan, Raanta and Hayton instead.
IPreferPi
A Nonny Mouse
Chara was an elite defensive d-man in his prime for about a decade. He's a HoF lock. Bergeron is a very good bet too.
